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    Image of PaintedTrollop PaintedTrollop
    04:54 PM

    In reply to Levi Johnston On Being A Gay Icon: "It's Great"
    This kid needs to do some work on his diction.
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    03:42 PM

    In reply to Levi Johnston On Being A Gay Icon: "It's Great"
    I have this weird love for Levi. I want to buy him a rack of PBR and some Doritos and be like "sugarbear, you gotta dish!"
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    Image of KittyKittyCat KittyKittyCat
    03:52 PM

    @The HZA.: Me too! He seems very believable in comparison to Sarah Palin and just comes off as a guy who doesn't take himself too seriously.

    Also, I thought it was VERY classy he wouldn't discuss where he had sex with Bristol. The things he says seem factual because they are almost too banal to be made up.
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    Image of limber limber
    03:21 PM

    In reply to Levi Johnston On Being A Gay Icon: "It's Great"
    The flight thing drives me nuts.

    Am I wrong in thinking that it's hugely irresponsible for a 44 year old woman carrying a special needs child in what is by definition a high-risk pregnancy to board a cross-country, high-altitude flight? And then to assume that she is absolutely insane if she repeats that journey, only this time leaking amniotic fluid and feeling contractions?

    I'll admit, I've never had a kid, but the friends and relatives who have all stopped flying around 6 months in. The ones who were older mothers went straight to the hospital as soon as labour started in any way.

    I don't care about the Mysterious Trig Origin story, but am I missing something about what I'd had as received wisdom long before I ever heard of Palin: that women should not fly late in pregnancy because it can put mother and child in danger if labour progresses, what with flight attendants not being medical professionals if things go badly wrong. I mean, Trig could have had a hole in his heart. This is not something the dermatologist onboard can handle with crossover medical skills.

    Seriously, don't care about the conspiracy theory. But the decision-making in that suggested chain of events chills me, and makes me wonder why ANYONE would trust a person with those decision-making instincts to be President.
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    03:39 PM

    @limber: My mother had to get doctor's permission to fly into her 8th month for a family vacation and most will tell you to hold off on any long trips by that point. I, myself, by 8 months would have been nervous, not to mention highly uncomfortable.

    At the same time, I am not a politician, and I would assume that there might be reasons that one would need to travel late into pregnancy. However, once water breaks? That means labor is going to start toot sweet (if it hasn't already -- some women's water breaks before labor begins) and in that case, yes, I would suggest its irresponsible to board a plane for a cross country trip. So even if there's nothing else to the story, you're correct -- this highlights very questionable decision making behavior.
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    05:28 PM

    @limber: I have to agree. It has been very clearly stated that her water had broken, she was having contractions. She knew she was pregnant with a special needs kiddo, and those births can be much harder with more complications. Given that she's also well over 30, the risk of complications is much higher as well. With that double whammy, what she did was just plain stupid. Additionally, each subsequent birth comes faster. I guess I err on the side of caution, but I wouldn't want to risk being on a plane whilst in labor.

    Her decisions were hugely irresponsible, and in my opinion, pretty selfish. And flat out dumb.

    I've had two kids. I guess I see it as much more logical to be on the ground, near a hospital if I'm having contractions and my water has broken.
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    02:01 PM

    In reply to Levi Johnston On Being A Gay Icon: "It's Great"
    Mr. Johnston provides a unique and very valuable service to Americans everywhere, for which we should thank him.

    He is, from what I can tell, the only thorn to have permanently embedded itself in Sarah Palin's side.

    Shine on, you crazy diamond!
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    02:03 PM

    @AndPreciousLittleofThat: That's the only reason I love this kid. Any time someone mentions his name to Sarah Palin you can totally see the flames in her eyes. Best thing ever.
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    01:56 PM

    In reply to Levi Johnston On Being A Gay Icon: "It's Great"
    They're really going crazy at the Ramrod right now!

    Oh Joy, don't ever change! Somewhere, Elisabeth is having a stroke.
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    01:51 PM

    In reply to Levi Johnston On Being A Gay Icon: "It's Great"
    He's got a nice enough body but I have a big thing for guy's hands. Seeing those hockey gloves just made me wince.
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    02:09 PM

    @sassyredhead: After all the hype, I was thinking Levi needed bigger gloves than that. Such a pity.
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    01:49 PM

    In reply to Levi Johnston On Being A Gay Icon: "It's Great"
    Levi doesn't need facts. He needs "facts" and therefore, needs no diary.
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    01:49 PM

    In reply to Levi Johnston On Being A Gay Icon: "It's Great"
    Ok. Andrew Sullivan needs to cool it about her pregnancy. It's not his business. I dislike Palin as much as the next person but it leaves a very bad taste in my mouth that this MAN is insisting that a woman can't give a speech while having contractions? In the early stages of her labor my friend was DELIVERING another baby (she's an ob-gyn) so...Give it a rest. It doesn't change the fact that Palin is hateful and bigoted. Talk about that. Leave her uterus alone.
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    01:52 PM

    @bluebears: I think it was the broken water more than the contractions that had him so flabbergasted. My understanding is that it can be very hazardous to the baby if you don't get to the hospital a.s.a.p. after the waters break, so he had a point (albeit a much belabored - Ha! Aha! Ha! Ha! - one). I find Levi attractive, which in turn makes me feel dirty.
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    bluebears promoted this comment Edited by otherginger at 12/08/09 1:52 PM otherginger was starred otherginger was unstarred
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    01:55 PM

    @otherginger: well he didn't specify when her water broke, it was separate from the contractions comment. be that as it may, not.his.uterus. and yeah there are all sort of pregnancy suggestions to insure optimal safety for the mother and child and it doesn't sound like she cared about following them (shocker) but again, why is this anyone's business?
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    02:02 PM

    @bluebears: Any time Sullivan writes about Palin, you can see the misogyny bubbling beneath the surface. His obsession and hatred of her is scary.
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    02:04 PM

    @hovy: It irritates me no end to listen to him go on and on about this topic. He is such a misogynist.
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    02:05 PM

    @otherginger: While most doctors would say they like to deliver within 24 hours after the water breaks because of the risk of infection, I've talked with midwifes who say you can wait longer. The risk of infection only really starts once you've started doing pelvic exams. (I say this as a woman who hightailed it to the hospital when her water broke, though.)

    But the real point is ... so what? Unless Andrew Sullivan was that baby's father (and the idea of that just amuses me) it's really none of his damn business. Enough with the conspiracy theories. It's almost as annoying as those birther people.
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    Image of Raised-byHeathens Raised-byHeathens
    02:08 PM

    @bluebears: Yeah, totes not his uterus, but I did think it was dangerous( like seriously stroke out dangerous) to be flying when you were seven or eight months pregnant. When looked at in that context, it does seem fishy to be in an airplane when you are delivering. But I don't have kids, and I don't know and it is her uterus, so who knows?
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    02:11 PM

    @bluebears: i drove my own damn self to the hospital, which included parking, and walking down the stairwells, across the street, and into the ER when I was 7 cm dialated.

    Andrew Sullivan, don't presume to think that you understand what women can and cannot do while in labor.
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    02:18 PM

    @bluebears: If she's going to support the birthers.... Also, the time line is in fact weird. I really don't care one way or the other whether this is her child, but I don't see his position as sexist.
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    bluebears promoted this comment pmarble was starred pmarble was unstarred
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    02:23 PM

    @pmarble: I just don't agree that because she's a racist who supports conspiracy theories it is then ok to go after her for this pregnancy bullshit. Like I said, there is PLENTY of on-topic issues to take her to task on. PLENTY. So the fact that this man is fixated on the state of her uterus and goes around insinuating her child is not in fact hers (which, whatever that means since she's raising it like its hers) IS sexist and misogynist. When he could go after her for anything and chooses to after her for issues that pertain to her reproductive health? I don't know what other conclusion anyone could reach.
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    02:40 PM

    @bluebears: I'm torn on this. On the one hand, Sullivan has apparently abandoned all useful political commentary to live inside his Sarah Palin obsession. And his methods are questionable. However, if there is reasonable doubt that it is her baby, I do think it is fair game to investigate that for the same reason I think it is fair to expose Carrie Prejean's hypocrisies. If Palin is going to promote herself, make money and potentially run for office on family values and abstinence and no abortions even for little girls who are raped, then I have no problem with someone exposing that she covered up or faked a pregnancy.
    At this point, though, Sullivan's claims don't seem to hold much water. It's pure speculation.
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    02:45 PM

    @EndangeredRed: Yeah, but the thing is I don't think that raising someone's baby as your own means that you're anti-family values (or whatever) and it STILL seems to veer off onto the not our business track. I mean if it isn't (and I personally think it IS) her kid for all we know she is being honest inside the family or whatever about it and if she's not its wrong and maybe not the best idea but still...not relevant. I have no problem calling her out on actual hypocrisies (ie Prejeans sex tape contrasted with her "christian values") but...this doesn't seem to be one.
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    02:50 PM

    @bluebears: Well, actually, Sullivan goes after her for a lot of things. I followed his blog (among many others) during the time this issue broke and, as pmarble said, the timeline is very, very weird. It's not about one particular thing or another (like giving a speech or flying on an airplane), it's about the sum total that doesn't add up. And Sullivan has said asking these questions is not really about is-it-hers-or-not as it is about documenting her overall pattern of lying and hypocrisy, especially when it comes to matters of sexuality -- which, of course, is very relevant to him, a strong advocate for marriage equality.

    I used to loathe Sullivan -- I have never forgiven him for his pro-war stance in 2004 and he still clings to some crap economics. But I give him credit, he's come a long way in the last couple of years. I don't mind at all his role as a thorn in her side. This woman's bullshit needs to be called, vigilantly.
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    bluebears promoted this comment yeahisaidit was starred yeahisaidit was unstarred
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    02:52 PM

    @yeahisaidit: he needs to stop discussing her uterus. period. I don't care if he also talks about other things, he has no business talking about this. Unless she's claiming that people should elect her president because Trig is her natural born son then it simply is not a matter for public discourse.
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    02:53 PM

    @bluebears: True. I agree that it's probably her baby. I think she may have been considering an abortion and that's why she kept it all under wraps, but again, none of our business.
    The hypocrisy would be in presenting her daughter as an example of abstinence by hiding the product of her sexual activity. Sort of a moot point by now, but especially troublesome if Bristol didn't have a choice at all. Which I wonder about. But again, that's Bristol, not Sarah, and I have no desire to drag her through the mud. As interesting a conspiracy as it may be, I've pretty much abandoned Andrew Sullivan's blog because of it.
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    02:56 PM

    @EndangeredRed: well yeah, I could see more of an argument towards mentioning it if it was possibly Bristols (like people claim) and she was hiding it to promote some sort of abstinence agenda except like you said, this was a moot point by the time they got to the RNC Convention so even that goes out the window.
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    02:59 PM

    @bluebears: So it isn't the tiniest bit relevant if she's a LIAR? I get that the whole pregnancy-conspiracy is a bit far-fetched, but so is her tale and I think if she is lying about something, it is relevant to her ability to govern, ie: be transparent and forthright with her constituents.
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    03:08 PM

    @sarah.rohn: I would feel the same if a male politician purposely was not honest about some personal medical issue (that would not have an effect on his ability to govern). Just because they're in the public sphere doesn't mean they can't keep some areas of their lives private.
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    03:29 PM

    @bluebears: I think that if someone makes their own uterus, and the uteruses of others, a campaign issue -- as she absolutely did -- then it's fair game. She claimed throughout the campaign, explicitly and implicitly, that what made her so electable despite her lack of requisite experience or knowledge was her moral superiority, her Christianness, her family (which she constantly trotted onstage), her hard line against reproductive choice and LGBT rights. She made the Trig story -- the moral of which was that she was so amazingly moral to have chosen to continue her pregnancy, and by the way no one else should have that choice -- a crucial narrative of her campaign. So, yes, she was claiming that people should elect her ticket because she gave birth to Trig. And Sullivan has a dog in this fight because she is out there trying to make his sexuality a political issue. If she's going to politicize his penis, well, turnabout's fair play.
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    03:32 PM

    @bluebears: It's the decision-making that gets me. Sarah Palin apparently boarded a flight 8 months pregnant, and then her water broke (which is essentially what "amniotic leak" means, it's just not gone full-out yet). And she left Texas, with its many excellent hospitals and fast ground transport and doctors, to get in a tin tube and go way high up in the air, just blithely sure that the special-needs baby she knew she was carrying would ride it out.

    Everything worked out, which is great! But if it hadn't, Sarah Palin would have been the factor that introduced totally needless danger into the equation. Put flatly, her son could've been born with a hole in his heart, and she chose to go on a long-haul flight where the nearest medical help would be a First Aider and whoever on the plane had taken pre-med.

    Of course, there's the flip side to this, which I find a lot more probable: she irresponsibly boarded a flight back to Alaska, but there was no sign of labour until she was almost on the ground. At which point they drove to the hospital and had the baby. And then she elaborated, as she tends to do, and created a Wilderness Woman story for herself -- only realizing too late that the other half of that take is Shockingly Irresponsible Mother.

    In short: I'd prefer to think her a compulsive liar than so offhand about her child's survival. Neither quality makes me want her in office.
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    03:57 PM

    @yeahisaidit: I just don't have the view that two rights make a wrong.

    As to the other point (and egg creams point) I could sort of see it from that perspective but its still a pretty big stretch. I mean if she had had a previous abortion and lied about it that would be different but just to say I'm against abortion and I didn't abort my kid...I mean, I can see the ridiculousness and dishonesty if it wasn't her kid to begin with but she did have what 4? other kids that she didn't abort. I guess if it was glaringly untrue that would be one thing but its not and all this speculation about womens bodies by (primarily) men is tiresome.
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    01:45 PM

    In reply to Levi Johnston On Being A Gay Icon: "It's Great"
    Well, that third frame came very close to turning me gay.
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    01:53 PM

    @Penny: It's ok dear, just remember they don't all look that way.
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    11/27/09

    In reply to Katie Adds Own Soundtrack To New Moon; Twihard Admits To Lying Over Bite
    This guy is suing WoW... for making you walk from place to place in the world of the game. Gosh, why can't Blizzard just sell a game that beats itself???
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    11/25/09

    In reply to Katie Adds Own Soundtrack To New Moon; Twihard Admits To Lying Over Bite
    Doesn't Erik Estavillo know that all of Blizzard's lawyers are Paladins?

    They simply have to cast Righteous Defense and Judgment of Justice at the trial. The defense team bubble-hearths and then it's back to work arbitrating hostile working environment cases brought by Scarlet Trainees.
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    11/26/09

    @Meangirl.is.for.the.Horde: If they're paladins they should just hammer of justice Estavillo. There is nothing more delightful than casting a big hammer out of the sky onto someone's head when they're annoying you ;)
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    11/26/09

    @Meangirl.is.for.the.Horde: oh mah gawd, i completely died of laughter. you just can't beat those paladins, its ridiculous!
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    11/26/09

    @Meangirl.is.for.the.Horde: I'd heart you all over again if I could for that peice of excellence.

    (I just switched mains to a Paladin Tank. ZOMG I loves it).
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    11/27/09

    @Meangirl.is.for.the.Horde: SO hearted. Just got done running around trying to find a $#$*#$ dwarf rogue; damn you Pilgrim's Bounty!!!
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    11/25/09

    In reply to Katie Adds Own Soundtrack To New Moon; Twihard Admits To Lying Over Bite
    Chris Weitz directed New Moon? Whaa?
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    11/26/09

    @Pizza!Pizza!Pizza!: I KNOW.
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    11/25/09

    In reply to Katie Adds Own Soundtrack To New Moon; Twihard Admits To Lying Over Bite
    I took a few tylenol PMs last night before bed and had a dream I touched Suri Cruise's hair. It felt like spun gold.
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    11/25/09

    In reply to Katie Adds Own Soundtrack To New Moon; Twihard Admits To Lying Over Bite
    I had no idea that Anderson Cooper is gay. Gawd I am behind the times. *sigh* I wonder if this lends more or less credence to my theory that he's actually Final Fantasy VII villain Sephiroth.
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    SUNNY1 promoted this comment Wishnick was starred Wishnick was unstarred
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    11/25/09

    @Wishnick: I had to google Sephiroth and now I agree. He's a younger Cooper. With such a big, ahem, sword...
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    11/25/09


    @Wishnick: I thought I would post the picture because, OMG, uncanny!
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    11/25/09

    In reply to Katie Adds Own Soundtrack To New Moon; Twihard Admits To Lying Over Bite
    Okay, I'm SO confused by this Erik Estavillo guy and his lawsuit, because while I have no doubt in my mind that one can be addicted to WoW, just as one can be addicted to alcohol, drugs, sex, love, etc., I fail to see, how and why Martin Lee Gore and Winona Ryder would be able to testify on Internet gaming addiction...

    In fact I think it's really sad (in lack of a better word) that *this* is the lawsuit that makes its way to the courtroom and the media because this is truly an addiction, and not just some slightly disturbed guy with a random lawsuit.

    Case in point: [www.olganon.org]
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    11/26/09

    @to do everything in truth: I must admit I read the peice in the OP and went "Oh great, because WoW players need MORE help being stereotyped".

    I think he needs help, and not just with his addiction to videogames.
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