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    More Charges For Accused Craigslist Killer As Officials Push To Eliminate "Erotic Services" Ads

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    Image of Jack_Burton Jack_Burton
    05/05/09

    In reply to More Charges For Accused Craigslist Killer As Officials Push To Eliminate "Erotic Services" Ads
    Just think... These tragedies could have gone very differently:

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    Image of J.D.Regent J.D.Regent
    05/05/09

    In reply to More Charges For Accused Craigslist Killer As Officials Push To Eliminate "Erotic Services" Ads
    If only Craigslist would start a "drugs" section, I might actually get into it.
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    Image of cdjill cdjill
    05/05/09

    In reply to More Charges For Accused Craigslist Killer As Officials Push To Eliminate "Erotic Services" Ads
    I watched a documentary on MSNBC last week about sex trafficking in the U.S. and how the internet has made it so much easier for pimps to do their jobs. Craig's List came up a number of times and at the end of the program, there was a note that said something like "Craig's List has agreed to donate a portion of its proceeds from erotic services listings to charities that work to stop child sex trafficking." WTF?!?!? How about you stop allowing the listings to begin with!?! The whole thing made me sick to my stomach and really made me think differently about that site and the people who run it.
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    Image of tomatoheart tomatoheart
    05/05/09

    @cdjill: While I think trafficking is awful, the victim in this crime was not trafficked, nor are other people who post on CL. I know it might be difficult to separate the concept of those who choose to do sex work and those who are sex slaves (especially with the way media keeps confusing the two), but I don't think punishing sex workers who aren't trafficked by taking away their advertising space is really helping.
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    Image of Slumdog_Mamabear Slumdog_Mamabear
    05/05/09

    In reply to More Charges For Accused Craigslist Killer As Officials Push To Eliminate "Erotic Services" Ads
    Wasn't there recently another murder off of CL? Only that guy was targeting a furniture buyer. Are we going to ban the selling of furniture as well? Or is it just the people selling sex that are asking to be brutally murdered?
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    Image of blueberryblackberry blueberryblackberry
    05/05/09

    In reply to More Charges For Accused Craigslist Killer As Officials Push To Eliminate "Erotic Services" Ads
    What's messed about this is that the women advertising on craigslist are already the most vulnerable contingent of independent sex workers, and eliminating erotic services just makes them more so.


    Advertising on craiglist carries a lot of stigma from other workers. No one is proud of it, and most women would choose other venues could they afford them or have access to them or if they knew about them.


    Significant numbers of women are able to avoid street work or going through low-end agencies by placing their own ads on craigslist. Advertising through craigslist is not the ideal, but it's a lot safer than street work and allows more control on the woman's part than a crummy agency would.


    It's not like craigslist, a business, has any kind of real responsibility to give these women a place to advertise, but the idea that eliminating erotic services makes the women who'd been advertising there safer is BS. It will have absolutely the opposite effect because while some of the women will migrate to Eros guide, or backpage, some will just go back on the street, or hook up with exploitative agencies.

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    Image of J.D.Regent J.D.Regent
    05/05/09

    @blueberryblackberry: thank you.
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    Image of Tippi Hedren Tippi Hedren
    05/05/09

    In reply to More Charges For Accused Craigslist Killer As Officials Push To Eliminate "Erotic Services" Ads
    Particularly when young,upper middle class kids do something gruesome, a scapegoat is searched for before a motive:


    This is the fault of craigslist erotic services listings, a kid beats his mom to death after an argument about his grades because she shouldn't have put so much pressure on him, and Columbine was Marilyn Manson's fault.

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    Image of tscheese tscheese
    05/05/09

    In reply to More Charges For Accused Craigslist Killer As Officials Push To Eliminate "Erotic Services" Ads
    As long as there is an Internet, people are going to find ways to use it to have sex with people. People like having sex, and the Internet can help you meet people. Grown-ass adults can have all the Craigslist sex they want to. I don't see this as being a problem, or even necessarily relevant.


    No, the problem, and the relevant bit, is that some asshole decided to kill people. Assholes have been doing this long before there were Internets. Removing one part of the site is just going to piss off a whole bunch of innocent, legit people. It's not going to stop the real assholes.

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    Image of devilchyld22 devilchyld22
    05/05/09

    In reply to More Charges For Accused Craigslist Killer As Officials Push To Eliminate "Erotic Services" Ads
    But, how am I going to make rent money?
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    Image of AtomiClash: humanitarian misanthrope AtomiClash: humanitarian misanthrope
    05/05/09

    In reply to More Charges For Accused Craigslist Killer As Officials Push To Eliminate "Erotic Services" Ads
    Legislators: there is a big huge forest out there beyond that "erotic services" Craigslist tree. Just sayin'.
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    Image of jeepgirl jeepgirl
    05/05/09

    In reply to More Charges For Accused Craigslist Killer As Officials Push To Eliminate "Erotic Services" Ads
    Wow! Great idea to ban erotic services on Craigslist! None of this stuff existed BEFORE Craigslist so that takes care of that! Whew!


    Now, what else can we ban....

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    Image of little_librarian little_librarian
    05/05/09

    @jeepgirl: I know! Let's ban college, because that's where Ted Bundy hunted for his victims. That should totally work!
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    Image of haguenite haguenite
    05/05/09

    @little_librarian: Noooo, ban women! They're too weak, and as such are too great a temptation.
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    Image of Plum-Pie Plum-Pie
    05/05/09

    @haguenite: They should definitely ban sex workers, then there'd be fewer people who deserved to be murdered!
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    Image of BellaNotte BellaNotte
    05/05/09

    In reply to More Charges For Accused Craigslist Killer As Officials Push To Eliminate "Erotic Services" Ads
    Is the takeaway here that arranging a meeting with a stranger you met online is mostly or only dangerous when it's under the auspices of "erotic services"? As if robbery and violence can't happen under any circumstances.
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    Image of rhymeswithfeather rhymeswithfeather
    05/05/09

    @BellaNotte: Or offline, for that matter. If you're meeting a stranger period -- not just from the internet -- there are, of course, risks. I don't understand why "Erotic Services" is under such scrutiny yet we aren't trying to protect say, escorts etc.
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    Image of Samanthrax Samanthrax
    05/05/09

    In reply to More Charges For Accused Craigslist Killer As Officials Push To Eliminate "Erotic Services" Ads
    Do not worry. There are always therapeutic massagers for people to kill.
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    Image of Jackiewsu Jackiewsu
    05/05/09

    In reply to More Charges For Accused Craigslist Killer As Officials Push To Eliminate "Erotic Services" Ads
    If they eliminate the erotic services section it will just spill into the other non adult parts of the site. It's the same as offline prostitution.
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    Image of tomatoheart tomatoheart
    05/05/09

    @Jackiewsu: It already does...casual encounters and misc. are filled with lots of very subtle ads that often go unnoticed for those not familiar with the terminology
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    Image of Pocahaunted Pocahaunted
    05/05/09

    @tomatoheart: I like the '2~~0~~0 roses' ads. And it always astounds me how good they are at ASCII art!


    "E__x__o__t__i__c____♥•°o♥•°o♥____H__o__t__t__i__e"


    (No sex worker hate from me by the way, I'm an §§§±±±exotic~dancer±±±§§§)

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    Image of tomatoheart tomatoheart
    05/05/09

    @Pocahaunted: hah, yes exactly. Even stuff like "girlfriend for the weekend" etc too, you know.
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    Image of morninggloria morninggloria
    05/05/09

    In reply to More Charges For Accused Craigslist Killer As Officials Push To Eliminate "Erotic Services" Ads
    If "erotic services" listings are banned on Craigslist, what am I supposed to read to skeeve myself out and therefore make myself better about how little I choose to interact with others?
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    Image of birminghamdrunk birminghamdrunk
    05/05/09

    @morninggloria: heh. yeah i was thinking this. it's like, well shit! who am i going to mock and laugh at all day then?!??!!1!


    guess i just have to go back my standby: republicans.

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    Image of Nighthawk (the former Okori Wadsworth) is headed back to DGUSA in November! Nighthawk (the former Okori Wadsworth) is headed back to DGUSA in November!
    05/05/09

    In reply to More Charges For Accused Craigslist Killer As Officials Push To Eliminate "Erotic Services" Ads
    I vote we stop blaming the people who are on the erotic services board and instead blame the guy who tried to kill them, thank you very much.
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