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deeemer
11/18/08

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Isn't this already happening? I'm late to the game here, I know, but there are plenty of OB's who do not perform abortions, but will refer you elsewhere to get them done.

I also know of some doctors who are uncomfortable with 'pulling the plug' in hospitals. They simply bring over a colleague who will do it for them.

So. . isn't this law already in effect? And can we honestly force people to do something they feel uncomfortable with? If a pharmacist doesn't want to give you the pills, vote with your feet and find someone else.
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TheGuvnah
11/18/08

@deeemer: these are regulations that aim to enforce the already-existing three separate federal laws that allow healthcare providers to refuse to provide services they disagree with.

Doctors are not currently "forced" to perform abortions (and never were).

the difference is the scope and breadth of who can refuse (the receptionist can refuse to schedule your appointment, etc) and what they can refuse (refuse to tell you that Plan B exists, for example).
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theysaidwhat
11/18/08

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I made this comment deep in a discussion, but how is this W nonsense re: abortion any different from saying that employers, doctors, retailers, government agencies, etc. could refuse to provide service or equal consideration to people of color, or Jews, or Catholics, or Muslims, etc. because they feel it's 'morally objectionable'?
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sybann
11/18/08

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Here's the thing: If I had to play the music of that douchebag Rod Stewart back in the dark days of Apartheid (he played South Africa when everyone else was boycotting) or get fired, a healthcare employee MUST provide ALL legal services available to women who want them or they can find another line of work. If you don't do your job you should be fired. PERIOD.
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Brigit
11/18/08

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In honor of:

Get your jeebus off my 'gina

keep your bible off my vadge

keep your prayers to yourself

and your crosses off my back
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Brigit
11/18/08

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I'm waay sick of assholes talking out of their earholes and trying to coerce empirical professions with faith-based bullshit.

If it's not supported by a significant amount of scientific research and medical experts, then STFU and keep your grubby hands off the healthcare professions. Sheesh.
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gobblegirl
11/18/08

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What irks me about the discussion of this bill is that it's written as if it's about "stopping clinics from discriminating against doctors." Like they're some put-upon minority.

NO. It's about allowing doctors discriminate against girls who are in trouble. LET'S TALK STRAIGHT, PEOPLE.
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Spaghetti Cat
11/18/08

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I think I speak for many here when I say, what an asshole this W is and continues to be. For real- I think our folks at Wonkette said it best, even though they were talking more about Texas than W himself- still- it fits:

"Finally the tyranny of Texas will come to an end because George W. Bush will soon fuck off back to Dallas or wherever he can find that won't extradite him for War Crimes, and the rest of America will fondly look back on Texas as that place they have to fly over to get to California."
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hellosunshine
11/18/08

@Spaghetti Cat: Or SOME OF US will continue to love our home state to pieces for things like Dublin Dr Pepper, bluebonnets and kickass queso and this quote:

"There's more to being Texan than the clothes you wear or the traditions you embrace. It's about an attitude, and you can't fake it. Whether you're of the native-born or got-here-fast variety, being Texan requires, first and foremost, an independent streak - a willingness to cock your head at the conventional and go your own way. Texans are confident and courtly, high-minded and hardworking, sometimes rakish but always reliable. Problem solvers. Big dreamers. Nice to their mommas! And they define success differently. In every state there are people who equate dollar signs with self-worth, and we have our share. But for most Texans, decency and honor are the true coins of the realm, along with a sense of fun."

It royally sucks that we're associated with Asshat McDoucheface and his posse, ESPECIALLY since AMcD isn't actually from Texas, he just grew up there. Thanks for making all of us look bad, douche.

(That rant was totally not directed at you, SC, just in general!)
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badmutha
11/18/08

@hellodarling loves president obama!!!: In the words of Bob Bullock, "God bless Texas."
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hellosunshine
11/18/08

@badmutha: *laugh* It is clearly a sensitive subject.
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hellosunshine
11/18/08

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Dear Dubya-

1. Fuck off.
2. Get the hell outta the White House.
3. Quit associating yourself with Texas, because some of us are really sick of your shit and would like to wear our cowgirl boots and let our real accents slip out without having people be all "OMG SO YOU TOTALLY VOTED FOR BUSH RIGHT?!" *hard glare*

Fuck off again for good measure,
HD

(Sorry Hortense <3)
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badmutha
11/18/08

@hellodarling loves president obama!!!: I am with you, fellow Texan!
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conokie
11/18/08

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to think he has two daughters.
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Hana Maru
11/18/08

@conokie: The rich and well connected have always had freedom of choice.
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RoseColette (fewer thorns; more coffee)
11/18/08

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W is just doing what he does best: Screwing up the world for the rest of us. I've always been curious if Barbara is disappointed in what he's done over the past 8 years.
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SomeAuthorGirl
11/18/08

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Wouldn't it be cute if the "provider" of my "government" had a "conscience?"

I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'. I love irony.

In the meantime, I already gave more to Planned Parenthood on this topic. I wish I could think of something else I could do to help my fellow women stay safe and as cared for as possible, something that made me feel more helpful and less like a checkbook, but I have to trust that others know better.

Ok, I am done being emotional now.
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sarrible
11/18/08

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I am feeling so blessed to have a wonderful, wonderful lady doctor, who handed me a free three-month supply of BC this morning, God love her. And eff you, George Bush. Eff you sideways.
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CollegeBookworm
11/18/08

@sarrible: Going to pick up my refill of my BC when my office hours are over at 5:30, prescribed by a nurse practitioner at the campus health center, delivered to campus by the local pharmacy. And none of those people are trying to interfere with my reproductive rights. Just George Bush and the religious crazies. Eff you indeed.
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bureaucrette
11/18/08

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I know that questions like this are usually considered as privacy issues, but isn't there an argument to be made for equal protection? Laws like these would seem to disproportionately affect women and their full enjoyment of and access to health care. It's not likely that this rule will reach the courts, seeing as Obama will overturn it if it does take effect, but I'm still curious.
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exelizabeth
11/18/08

@bureaucrette: Remember, we can all agree about the unimportance of women's "health!"
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kissybiznitch
11/18/08

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A friend of mine was refused birth control by a pharmacist in new york - brooklyn to be exact. he then gave her no options at to where she could go (which luckily in this case was down the block). this bullshit has to stop. you don't hear of old men being refused their viagra do ya W?
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deeemer
11/18/08

@kissybiznitch: So? I was once denied pain medication for my KIDNEY STONES that were blasting their way through my body, because they have a policy against narcotics.

How is this different? Why do we get a special pass when it comes to birth control? Do you know for a fact that Viagra wasn't denied to another male patient?

You're just being incendiary.
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littlebunnyfoofoo
11/18/08

@deeemer: Uh, yes, you do hear about old men getting Viagra when women get turned down for BC. It was covered by insurance companies before birth control was! That was a big deal for awhile.
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exelizabeth
11/18/08

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You know, everyone does things that conflicts with their morals every single day. I pay taxes to fund things that conflict with my morals, but so does everyone else. Why the hell are doctors so special that they for some reason get a get-out-of-immorality free card, while the rest of us just have to suck it up?
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Kivrin
11/18/08

@exelizabeth: Yeah, I really don't want my tax dollars funding the Iraq War -- can I apply for conscientious objector status?
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