I want the one in back on the (facing) left.
I wouldn't even have to wear it. I would just hang it in my closet and look at it.
What was it Charlie Sheen said in Wall Street? "Let's just watch it. Think about it."
Didn't this same discussion happen last week, with the photo of the Japanese models? People assuming that foreign models are trying to emulate white women (granted Japan does have a cultural history of prizing fair skin...that existed years before a Dutchman or Perry ever set foot on Japanese soil).
Maybe every culture has it's own impossible, ridiculous standards of beauty - that isn't surprising considering how people prize the unattainable. But let's not have every post with foreign models degenerate into speculation of how all foreign women have been brainwashed into wanting to be caucasian, ok? It's a little culturally self-absorbed and an insulting simplification.
@gigi-jade: Exactly! It's not always about Western influences. In India, skin colour is/was associated with manual labour. The rich were lighter bc they weren't outside doing hard labour. Of course there are colonial associations on skin colour but it's not always about that..it's a lot more complicated than that. I for one am tired of these assumptions continuously being fostered on posts about Indian women.As a South Indian girl who looks North Indian,with family members who have been mistaken for Italian, Iranian,and Mexican, I can tell you these women DO look naturally Indian, just not stereotypically so!
I completely agree with concerns about lack of individuality in fashion, but it continually irks me when people (usually Westerners) assume that a desired trait in a non-white population is due to 'Western Oppression.'
I can't speak to Indian culture specifically, but in Chinese and other East Asian cultures, the aesthetic preference for light skin historically has to do with class and the luxury not having to do physical labour outdoors.
I know this was alluded to in another comment, but this type of extreme political correctness (reverse colonialism?) can be tiresome.
What exactly in your mind does an indian woman look like? India is a country that is filled with people of color from the lightest to the darkest and different body types. Contrary to certain people's beliefs, not all indian women use lightening products, it may surprise you that is the models natural skin color. Since this is a casting call, they probably wanted a specific body type tall and thin, not fat and short.
Jezzies, please remember most indian women do not use lightening creams.
@HollyZinkbot: You mean to tell me that one of the most highly populated countries in the world, whose demographics are comprised of a plethora of ethnic groups spread throughout a very large landmass, is not in fact as physically and phenotypically homogenous as my totalizing Western gaze, informed by stereotypical orientalist narratives, has led me to believe? You don't fucking say. Thanks for teaching me something, native informant!/ and out.
What does "looking Indian" entail exactly? Indians are very diverse and come in a variety of shapes and sizes. It seems to me that you are asking why aren't they more "stereotypically" Indian?
@JacindaGaleo: Agreed. It irks me when I read this sort of sweeping, judgmental statement. It's not like New York Fashion Week strictly uses models from New York...
@pmarble: there are 1.1 billion people in India, there's a lot of diversity. Not sure what you mean by "looking Indian". "Indian" is a nationality, not a specific set of genetics.
@pmarble: it's interesting you say that. one things that jezebel often addresses is westernized standards of beauty, including those in india. i too noticed that all of the women in the picture have straight, shiny hair and lighter skin. this picture would be interesting to couple with some of the older jezeposts about skin-lightening cream or even the "good hair" post from yesterday.
@bangers: to all the PC knee-jerk jumpers, this is what I meant. These women represent what I would expect in a western show. There's certainly nothing very "diverse" about this group of ladies.
@pmarble: haha, that sounds like something my (Indian) mom would say. She always laments how all the bollywood actresses look nothing like the women and girls she grew up around in South India.
@pmarble: i don't think thats the right comment/criticism. they do "look indian." the people who don't think they "look indian" already have a pre-conceived notion of what indian looks like in their head and dont realize that indians come in all colors. the right question, and the one i think you were getting at, is why are there only light-skinned indian models here? that goes back to indians' preference for lighter skin.
@pmarble:
They do look Indian, just like a very specific subset of the Indian population. I have limited education about Indian ethnography, but I seem to recall that the two largest ethnic groups are Aryan and Dravidian. People of primarily Aryan descent are often taller, more slender, with fairer complexions, straighter hair, and facial features Americans consider more "European". People of Dravidian descent tend to be shorter and of darker complexion.
While the apparent preference for tall, think, fair-skinned women may appear to be a western fetish, it isn't unique to Europe and the US. Complexion in India can be closely related to social class, caste and ethnicity, as well as geography.
@pmarble: of course the preference for light skin is a problem. i was just trying to point out why your question was not a good question. they only dont "look indian" to people who have stereotypical ideas of what "indian" looks like.
@pmarble: its not about being "pc" but as an indian, it frustrates me when people say a certain person doesn't "look indian." its offensive in the same way that saying someone "sounds white" because the person saying that has a stereotype of what "white" sounds like. i understand that you might not be trying to say that indians all look a certain way, but there it is worthwhile in pointing out how we should be more careful with our language.
I'm tired of encasing my body in non-breatheable synthetics just so I don't offend someone by having veins or subcutaneous fat. These hips don't deal well with being repressed. They cannot be restrained.
It's the in/out cycle of modeling that swallows these girls and puts them in the spotlight and then spits them back out a few seasons later. If you were previously working but an unknown you are unestablished. It's until you hit it big for the first time that you are recognized and paid attention to. Before that, it's not that they were old (not new) but just unknown.
@Johnny_Rocket: Yes. That's exactly how it works. Tao Okamoto was an old hand by the time I first came to Paris. The idea of the "new" girl is, in 99% of cases, a fiction. She was there -- it's just that you didn't notice.
@linnyt is a walking cliché: AHHH!! my eyeballs are burning!! I have to run to rinse them under cold water and pray to the gods that my sight is restored...
RE: Spanx clothing *Looks down at smoothed out from Spanx tights stomach (was slightly bloated from over-indulgence in beer and pizza this weekend) in cute dress*
@thatonegirlsays: This line appeals to my inner laziness. Why would I want to deal with two garments (Spanx and a dress) when I can just put on one (Spanxdress)? This will be the biggest win since cheese and fries combined into one tasty dish!
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Yakka Yakka Hi Yakka Hi-die Ho!
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I want the one in back on the (facing) left.
I wouldn't even have to wear it. I would just hang it in my closet and look at it.
What was it Charlie Sheen said in Wall Street? "Let's just watch it. Think about it."
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(And, as TransFat says, not sit in Row A on the mezzanine.)
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Maybe every culture has it's own impossible, ridiculous standards of beauty - that isn't surprising considering how people prize the unattainable. But let's not have every post with foreign models degenerate into speculation of how all foreign women have been brainwashed into wanting to be caucasian, ok? It's a little culturally self-absorbed and an insulting simplification.
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I can't speak to Indian culture specifically, but in Chinese and other East Asian cultures, the aesthetic preference for light skin historically has to do with class and the luxury not having to do physical labour outdoors.
I know this was alluded to in another comment, but this type of extreme political correctness (reverse colonialism?) can be tiresome.
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Jezzies, please remember most indian women do not use lightening creams.
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They do look Indian, just like a very specific subset of the Indian population. I have limited education about Indian ethnography, but I seem to recall that the two largest ethnic groups are Aryan and Dravidian. People of primarily Aryan descent are often taller, more slender, with fairer complexions, straighter hair, and facial features Americans consider more "European". People of Dravidian descent tend to be shorter and of darker complexion.
While the apparent preference for tall, think, fair-skinned women may appear to be a western fetish, it isn't unique to Europe and the US. Complexion in India can be closely related to social class, caste and ethnicity, as well as geography.
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'wheatish!'
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@greengrey: As if they had anything to do with fashion outside of the CW. Oh snap.
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*Looks down at smoothed out from Spanx tights stomach (was slightly bloated from over-indulgence in beer and pizza this weekend) in cute dress*
Oh, Spanx clothing? Bring it!
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