This is barely relevant, but I'm really sick of this societal confusion vis-a-vis the terminology of the female reproductive system. The vagina is an INTERNAL organ. The clitoris, clitoral hood, labia major & minora, etc., comprise the VULVA. A labioplasty is not a VAGINAL surgery.
One never says "urethra" when one means "penis," so I don't know why this one's so hard for people to grok. When I hear "vagina" and the speaker means "vulva," the message I get is that he thinks the only part of women's sexual anatomy that matters is the hole. You know, where the dick goes. Sure, there's stuff around the hole, but who cares, amirite? Hurr hurr hurr!
@vintagegoddess: To make it look more like a porn star's labia. Because apparently some vulvas look better than others and porn stars' are the BEST. Or at least the ones that the guys are used to so they are not so scary as the kind of vulva that doesn't look like that.
Perez Hilton is not the first gay man I've heard(others were friends and acquaintances) disparage what they deem large or ugly labia. I had a friend in H.S. who even had a name for it--"pop-out pussy" It always made me feel bad because my inner labia do hang out a little. I'm over it now, having replaced unnecessary body shame with anger at the acceptability of women-hating.
@HanaMaru: Have you ever noticed that there is no feature of any woman's body that is not too trivial to have a disparaging name for it? And that there is actually a specification for what "normal" or "attractive" should be and "abnormal" and "unattractive" are? Not that I'm saying labiae are trivial, I'm just sayin'.
Like "cankles" for example. Wha? Who cares? Aren't they covered by your "mom jeans"r anyway?
@aubonpam: I read the title that way, too. And it called to mind a photo I saw of Paris Hilton on the beach in a bikini bottom with her outer labial folds exposed.
Thank the goddess that if I have ever seen an equivalent picture of Perez Hilton I have no memory of it!!
Ugh when will this asshole go away. He isn't witty, nor does he present the public with actual stories of his own. He basically is a link whore, reblogging AP and Variety stories and then every couple of posts shitting on some celebrity with his gossip and white out pen doodles.
I am falling in love with Ms. Handler more and more these days. I love her brassiness and her books are great.
Chelsea doesn't even like Perez Hilton. I swear, E books guests just to fuck with her. She's had to interview the Kardashians, Joe Francis, Perez Hilton.... It's like they listen to the roundtables to see who she doesn't like, then books those people.
He'll go away if you stop paying attention to him! Honestly though, part of me pities him... kinda like the way you pity Gollum in Lord of the Rings: you know he's evil and would cut you in a second, but you can physically see how much he clearly hates himself, so you can't all the way hate him...
I will never get the hating on vaginas and demands for conformity under the belt. Those of us who love them, really don't care. We're just happy to be invited to the party.
@Macloserboy: @trulymadlyme: I <3 both of you. Seriously, a lot of women are really self-conscious of their vaginas for various reasons, so you two deserve a medal or something :)
@trulymadlyme: That's so very sweet of y'all and I know my hubby would agree. But there really are men out there who ask their girlfriends' to get fixed because they don't look sexy.
I've snarked my way all through this thread out of rage because truly there may be many things I've learned to feel self-conscious about on my own body, but the idea that my most sacred "private parts" might not measure up was actually emotionally crushing.
Okay. I'm sensitive. My first husband told me I needed to lose weight so I stopped eating for two years, but still!
If this is the message that my child's generation is growing up with, then what kind of standards are our grandchildren going to have to "live up to" or really just feel ashamed and inadequate about?
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One never says "urethra" when one means "penis," so I don't know why this one's so hard for people to grok. When I hear "vagina" and the speaker means "vulva," the message I get is that he thinks the only part of women's sexual anatomy that matters is the hole. You know, where the dick goes. Sure, there's stuff around the hole, but who cares, amirite? Hurr hurr hurr!
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Both say some of the most vile and ignorant sh*t I have ever heard put out there as "entertainment".
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Like "cankles" for example. Wha? Who cares? Aren't they covered by your "mom jeans"r anyway?
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Thank the goddess that if I have ever seen an equivalent picture of Perez Hilton I have no memory of it!!
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I am falling in love with Ms. Handler more and more these days. I love her brassiness and her books are great.
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I've snarked my way all through this thread out of rage because truly there may be many things I've learned to feel self-conscious about on my own body, but the idea that my most sacred "private parts" might not measure up was actually emotionally crushing.
Okay. I'm sensitive. My first husband told me I needed to lose weight so I stopped eating for two years, but still!
If this is the message that my child's generation is growing up with, then what kind of standards are our grandchildren going to have to "live up to" or really just feel ashamed and inadequate about?