All right, that's it. We Jezebels need to figure out some way to adopt Lindsey Lohan. We can all have joint custody and shuttle her around. We can all bake her little goodies and teach her things and have her teach us how to artfully apply eyeliner and bronzer.
somehow, i don't see movie studios being the only ones who "custom tailor" shit for tom cruise...
and when are they gonna figure out that it's really unlikely that he ever regains the spotlight he use to have?
i just think that the scientology gig really throws a monkey-wrench in his like-ability, regardless as to whatever role these studio magicians can conjure up... he has what is known as "the glib factor" now.
Even if the script is tailored to him I don't know if Tom Cruise will have another hit because he's just not believable anymore. I don't know about anyone else, but there comes a certain point where I just feel like I know way to much about an actors personal life and I can't separate it from the person I see on screen. Angelina Jolie is in that category as well. I just see her in a movie and think 'oh that's Angelina Jolie'. I don't know if I can ever see her as anything else.
@IBleedGlitter: I also think it has to do with his public persona in the sense that people don't like him anymore. Test audiences laughed when he character was beaten to a pulp in MI:3. The love affair has worn off.
@IBleedGlitter: I'm like this too. Angelina, also, I feel is just playing herself in every single movie she does. And since I don't especially care for her, it tends to spoil the movie for me. Tom Cruise is still trying to be That Guy, and I don't believe he is, if he ever was.
@IBleedGlitter: I would, however, pay the equivalent of a movie ticket to see her just once more wear a vial of blood around her neck and talk about Jenny Shimizu and knives and vampires and whatnot.
I would be super pysched if someone managed to create a Lillith Fair type tour with all female artists, again. I don't know why that hasn't taken off...
@EkaterinaBallerina: It was my favorite concert as a teenager. I loved that it encompassed all types of women doing different types of music. I wish they'd bring it back.
@Trulymadlyme: My first boyfriend in high school took me to the Lilith Fair at Jones Beach. It was awesome. We saw a naked crazy lady get subdued by police because she was trying to run out into the ocean...naked. She was probably pretty baked. And the Idigo Girls sang Closer to Fine as the sun set, and the water turned orange and gold. One of my all time favorite memories.
So yeah, let's bring it back! Girls today need those kinds of memories.
@devilchyld22: I clicked through to that picture. I did not realize just how white he has become. It's like that really old SNL skit with Eddie Murphy when he becomes the white guy to see how it is....
@hortense: From what I understand, Edie was brought up by a rich but insane family. Lindsay seems to have been brought up by a disappointed Madame Bovary cheerleader type, who aspired to riches and fame.
Both are sad figures, obviously. Do you recommend the book?
@sara-without-an-h: The book is actually really well done (it's from 1982), it's her story told by various people who knew her in little snippets. The similarities lie in the fact that both of them seemed to have fame, but very little else, and that the people who built them up were quick to disappear when things got bad.
@hortense: Which book do you recommend? I'm looking for a new book to read and this sounds interesting. I'm looking on Borders, but there are a few authors. Thanks :)
@sara-without-an-h: Yeah, I wouldn't really consider LiLo an Edie type. Edie was more like some sort of character from a novel-- she had a genuinely fascinating family background (rich, aristocratic, connected but batshit insane) that drove her mad. I love this piece on Edie, the "psycho-waif-WASP- princess": [nymag.com]
@ChildBride: There was just one passage in the book that reminded me of Lindsay, and I can't remember who said it, but it was something about how it seemed like Edie was super famous and had a ton of friends, but if you looked at her eyes, it seemed as though she'd never had ANY friends.
@sara-without-an-h: I recommend this book wholeheartedly. Reading it from a modern perspective it's fascinating to see the rise of a 'celebrity' who's a celebrity in a cult of personality way, rather than for their artistic achievements.
@ChildBride: I also had a lot of affection for Edie because she was involved in 'counter-culture' and 'freaks' and seemed to be in a much more interesting world than Lilo.
Not that I don't get what you're saying, Hortense. I know you didn't mean they were alike in EVERYSINGLEWAY. (I also recommend the book; it has quotes from all kinds of interesting people-- I think even some Velvet Underground folks)
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and when are they gonna figure out that it's really unlikely that he ever regains the spotlight he use to have?
i just think that the scientology gig really throws a monkey-wrench in his like-ability, regardless as to whatever role these studio magicians can conjure up... he has what is known as "the glib factor" now.
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So yeah, let's bring it back! Girls today need those kinds of memories.
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(I might be An Old, but I cannot puzzle out half the dialogue on The Hills because like yaw y'know everyone like, shyeah, y'know like YOU KNOW.)
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Both are sad figures, obviously. Do you recommend the book?
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[nymag.com]
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Not that I don't get what you're saying, Hortense. I know you didn't mean they were alike in EVERYSINGLEWAY. (I also recommend the book; it has quotes from all kinds of interesting people-- I think even some Velvet Underground folks)
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Just because you talk about "a lot of intelligent things" (which.. doesn't really make sense) does not mean you talk about them intelligently.
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