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drinkthefat
12/09/08

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I drink fat.
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yvanehtnioj
12/09/08

@drinkthefat: I LOL'ed. (L'edOL?)
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rednrowdy
12/09/08

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kira cochrane is a really funny writer, but i'm going to put this out there yet again that i can't help but notice that she refers to her boyfriend's opinion at the beginning and the end of the piece. of course his whole thing at the end about her not caring what she looks like is funny, but it begs the question: would she care about dieting if she didn't have a boyfriend? whose opinion would she mention instead? isn't this just sending the same old message "well, my boyfriend still wants to have sex with me, so it's okay that i don't diet"?

i'm not saying diet or don't diet...but maybe we as women shouldn't have our opinions of ourselves be so tied into what our significant others' (and predominantly male) opinions of ourselves should be.
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Liz11685
12/09/08

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This woman sounds like she is writing about my life.

Currently: eating candy in the library and avoiding the next 6 pages of term paper that I need to write before 2.

I love muffins.
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tscheese
12/09/08

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So, uh, considering changing my weight/exercise/lifestyle, then actually NOT doing it and eating things?

And I could like, blog about this?

Shit, I missed my calling.
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Grim Reaper of the Forest
12/09/08

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See, whenever I give myself a hard time for ingesting crap like chocolate or chips that are not doing anything good for my body, I think of my puppy. I may have had a few glasses of wine this weekend, but she ate stereo wire, animal crap, some string and part of a brush. It is only natural to binge on crap when you are bored.
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bananastand
12/09/08

@treecut...Grim Reaper of the forest: Wow! What a marvelous philosophy.
Though, admittedly, I've munched on stereo wire now and again. Come on, who hasn't?
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hellosunshine
12/09/08

@treecut...Grim Reaper of the forest: I really think life would be easier if we all lived like our puppies. Eat, sleep, play, poop. Repeat.
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Grim Reaper of the Forest
12/09/08

@hellodarling!: More like eat poop, play with poop, sleep, poop.
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sarah.of.a.lesser.god (aka Mrs. BrutallyHonestHobbit)
12/09/08

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I wish I could be her. I still have my scale in the kitchen. I'm not using it but I can't bear to throw it away. Kira, will you be my shrink?
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Sukie in the Graveyard
12/09/08

@sarah.of.a.lesser.god (subservient to the ovumlord): if you move the scale to the bathroom, you can see how much your poop weighs!
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BlondeGrlz
12/09/08

@sarah.of.a.lesser.god (subservient to the ovumlord): My scale is broken. As is the one at the gym. And the one at the doctor's office. Some day I'm going to invent an "unbreakable scale" that will always show my correct weight, 115 lbs.
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sarah.of.a.lesser.god (aka Mrs. BrutallyHonestHobbit)
12/09/08

@BlondeGrlz is having a BlondeBoyz!: This is the first time in YEARS that I am not weighing at least 8 times a day (no exaggeration). It is not fun, not that weighing 8 times a day really was fun to begin with.
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my cousin is an ape
12/09/08

@Sukie in the Graveyard: Anyone ever see the CSI episode where the girl weighed her food and poop to make sure she was expelling as much as she took in?
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Sukie in the Graveyard
12/09/08

@my cousin is an ape: grossest episode ever. (you KNOW what was in that paper sack she placed on the scale - shutter...)
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Sukie in the Graveyard
12/09/08

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I ran two miles yesterday (amazing for me).

Today, I'm eating mashed potatoes and gravy for lunch. -and watching Biggest Loser.

This, is my diet.

(also, running just feels wonderful, as Elle Woods would say...)
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bluebears
12/09/08

@Sukie in the Graveyard: yay! not to get all up in your bizness but are you a usual runner? I am a runner and I love it so I am always psyched when other people take it up.
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Snowbunny
12/09/08

@Sukie in the Graveyard: I'm jealous. I can't run at all, never could. I can walk 10 miles without thinking about it, but trying to run somewhere could actually kill me.

I suffer from upper respiratory problems and shin splints.
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sarah.of.a.lesser.god (aka Mrs. BrutallyHonestHobbit)
12/09/08

@Sukie in the Graveyard: I could never ever be a runner, so hats off to you! I have been craving mashed potatoes all day and now I am at the breaking point...
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Sukie in the Graveyard
12/09/08

@bluebears: I was in Track and Field and Cross Country in high school but didn't do much running after I graduated (hangs head in shame since I also went to the best Track and Field school - in the country?).

I try to get out and run but only at the gym - I won't run by myself on the streets.

BUT! This spring the boyfriend said that he would like to go running with me in parks and on trails and such. I am SO STOKED! He is even looking at new running shoes.

I hope to do the Hood To Coast this August (I bailed last year because of a foot injury). [www.hoodtocoast.com]
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bananastand
12/09/08

@Snowbunny: I'm jealous too. My boobies are just too damn big to run comfortably, even with three sports bras and duct tape.
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bluebears
12/09/08

@Sukie in the Graveyard: that race looks awesome. I'm so jealous. I run at the treadmill pretty much all winter as well cause it gets dark so early and I wont run in the dark. I can only take about 30 minutes on the treadmill though, so boring. But its still better than nothing.
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Cafezinha
12/09/08

@Sukie in the Graveyard: Running is marvelous. I finally started exercising after I had my kids (wanted to set a good example, sick of bitching about my health and weight) and though at first I could only run for 30 seconds then wheezily walk through the rest, I eventually made it up to a marathon. Nowadays, I don't run as much, but I am very active and have become an athlete, which is not something I would have ever imagined--I hated jocks and exercise for most of my life.
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monkeydance
12/09/08

@bluebears:

i'm a runner. have been for 10 years. i love it. i think it's the endorphins. by mile 2 i'm singing along to my ipod...people on bikes behind me get a song and dance from me. lol.
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Cafezinha
12/09/08

@monkeydance: I don't usually sing too much when I run, but catch me on a bike, and I'll be wobbling all over the place, singing really loud and dancing like a moron.
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Sukie in the Graveyard
12/09/08

@monkeydance: I do the same thing, in the gym.

I have treadmill-danced to OkGo! It was awesome. No regrets.
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bluebears
12/09/08

@Cafezinha: that's awesome. I think so many people have only run in gym class in school and hated it because of course, but it really is so empowering.
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monkeydance
12/09/08

@Cafezinha:

dancing on a bike??? this i have to see or try. lol.
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Cafezinha
12/09/08

@monkeydance: Well, "dancing" is a very loose term...more like embarrassingly awesome upper body twitches and hand motions to the music.

Such as.
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hellosunshine
12/09/08

@Snowbunny: Add weak knees, cranky knees and overpronating to these, and you've got me.
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Mav
12/09/08

@Sukie in the Graveyard: I can only run on an elliptical as I can't do the impact on my joints. But crank up the incline and the resistance and I'm jamming away.
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VaginaWig is A Merkin
12/09/08

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Get it, gurl.
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scullymurphy
12/09/08

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She's great. I too espouse the no scales rule at my house.
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MissyMcCLung
12/09/08

@scullymurphy: Me too! Haven't owned one in years!
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bluebears
12/09/08

@scullymurphy: me three!
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InCahoots
12/09/08

@scullymurphy: GOOD. It always makes me want to scream when people compare weight. I've seen girls get self-conscious because they weigh more than someone else, even though they appear more fit. It's because you have muscles, damnit! They weigh more! AAAAAaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhHHHHHhhh@!
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Crabby Cakes
12/09/08

@scullymurphy: No scale here! Although there is one where I work. Luckily it sits in a dark room in the back. However, I would like to go visit it now.
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bluebears
12/09/08

@InCahoots: dude, this is the (main) reason why I had to stop watching the biggest loser. every season after the first few weeks they all don't lose as much/plateau/gain and they all moan and wail about it and no one is like its from all the muscle you're building!! drives me nuts.
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Cafezinha
12/09/08

@InCahoots: Doctors don't help, either. I had one refuse to address my crippling insomnia because I'm ostensibly almost 40 pounds overweight.

I sure am. I'm also 17% bodyfat. I got more muscle in my left thigh than the doctor has in her whole body, but she still refuses to treat me 'til I drop some weight.

(Yes, I told her to kiss my ass, and I'm looking for someone new, don't worry.)
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clevernamehere
12/09/08

@scullymurphy: The no-scale rule works if you tend to obsess, but if you're like Kim Cochrane or me, its not so good. I don't obsess about what I look like or what I weight and I'm tall enough that I can gain a decent amount before my clothes start feeling tight. I was uber stressed finishing my masters thesis and not being very healthy, which meant I gained weight. Not weighing myself means I didn't know and now I'm trying to get back down to my healthy for me weight.

She's even more extreme than me though. There is a big difference between 150 and 230 and I'm not sure being blase about that big a shift is good. There is a middle ground between obessesion and not caring at all.
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scullymurphy
12/09/08

@clevernamehere: I'm the last person to obsess. I just don't see what good a scale does me. I sound much like you - tall and can gain quite a bit before I notice it. But I always eventually notice and then take steps to remedy it. Feeling bad because of a number on a scale just doesn't help me either way.
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clevernamehere
12/09/08

@scullymurphy: But I don't feel bad when I notice a 5 pound gain. What a scale is good for is it shows when its more than 5 pounds and it might be a good idea to be a bit more consentious. I'd lent my scale during my masters crunch time,if I'd had it I probably would have bought some groceries and ordered less pizza and I wouldn't be slowly losing it 6 months later. I literally just didn't notice I'd gained 20 lbs in 5 months until I got my scale back.

Kim doesn't seem a difference between 150 and 230. She doesn't seem to have a body type that requires psycho devotion to weigh 150ish, so medically 230 probably isn't great for her and she should care a little.
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Cafezinha
12/09/08

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I'd say about 50 percent of my blogging is about my workout verbs (martial arts, dance, weightlifting, running)--I got the physical part down. Dieting, not so much. That's not to say it's all Klondike bars and Twinkie wiener sandwiches, as I love my whole foods and simple stuff, but rather, I could never get down to a bodybuilding contest weight/lean-out because I simply cannot force myself to eat that way. Don't tell me my avocadoes, real sugar in my coffee, and fresh creamery butter are bad foods.

Despite what some will tell me, I don't think that's a fail. I'm damned healthy--but my priorities are way different than Self magazine tells me they should be.
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Crabby Cakes
12/09/08

@Cafezinha: I let my Self subscription lapse this month when I realized it was just making me feel bad about myself for not being more active. I don't need a magazine making me feel bad about myself! I have a brain that does that!
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Cafezinha
12/09/08

@Crabby Cakes wants some Dance Biscuits.: Seriously. when Jez posted the article about Self and their ilk, I went on a couple of entirely-too-long rant about 'fitness' magazines that promote grossly dysfunctional ways of eating and exercising. That's not a disciplined, healthy lifestyle. That's bordering on sickness. Eff it.
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sportz.star
12/09/08

@Cafezinha: I dispute that any vegetable, fruit or real food product is bad for you. So, have your avocados, sugar and creamery butter. If "healthy" requires eating "fake" ur doing it rong, IMHO.

I exercise. I love to eat. Mmmm, moderation (most of the time).
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bluebears
12/09/08

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She's a really funny writer!

"Oh," said my boyfriend the other day, as I explained that I couldn't have pie for lunch. "I had absolutely no idea you were still on a diet." Since we live together, this seemed a bad sign.
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Crabby Cakes
12/09/08

@bluebears: Oy, my bf pulled something similar. I take a step/sculpting class 2x a week and have been for about 9 months. Last week, he says, "gee, you're getting home from work later and later these days." Says me, IN MY GYM CLOTHES, "I'm getting home from step class, not work!"

"...Oh, you're still taking that class? I thought you had quit."

FAIL.
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bluebears
12/09/08

@Crabby Cakes wants some Dance Biscuits.: boys. so delightfully clueless.
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morninggloria
12/09/08

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Good for her to not be obsessed with her weight; however, deciding to invest a little effort in taking maintaining physical health is a GOOD thing. Being healthy= good. Exercising sometimes, and sometimes eating good foods can help one become healthier. And health is good, as long as the obsession with achieving an ideal appearance doesn't reach unhealthy levels.

Am I making sense?
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BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit)
12/09/08

@morninggloria: Are you advocating some kind of moderation? No, no, no women can't do that. Don't you pay attention?
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scullymurphy
12/09/08

@morninggloria: Yes I agree, but there are so many publications championing the POV you describe. It's nice to see another angle represented - especially when it's one so many of us can identify with!
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JessicaLovejoy: Laughing, riding, cornholing!
12/09/08

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1) Write about what I don't do

2)?????

3) Profit!
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Crabby Cakes
12/09/08

@Jessica Hussein Lovejoy: BRB, getting Rahm'ed: HA! Brilliant!

My own personal 3 step plan:

1) Read Jez instead of working

2) ????

3) Profit!
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Grim Reaper of the Forest
12/09/08

@Crabby Cakes wants some Dance Biscuits.: Funny, that's mine too, but when I take it to the venture capitalists, they always ask me uncomfortable questions about #2.
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Crabby Cakes
12/09/08

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In other news- Crabby Cakes has been planning on starting a diet for the last 6 years. It is usually derailed by wine and potatoes.
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Cafezinha
12/09/08

@Crabby Cakes wants some Dance Biscuits.: And dance biscuits, apparently.
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The HZA.
12/09/08

@Crabby Cakes wants some Dance Biscuits.: I have thought about a diet and I can usually live with the idea until it suggests no cheese or potatoes. Then I am like well eff that noise. And I go to Jack in the Box for bacon cheddar potato wedges. With sour cream.
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Crabby Cakes
12/09/08

@Cafezinha: The Dance Biscuits go straight to my hips!
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Crabby Cakes
12/09/08

@The HZA.: You eat what now? Bacon cheddar potato wedges with sour cream? There is a Jack in the Box 2 blocks from my house and I had NO IDEA such wonderful things existed! If I walk to Jack in the Box, that counts as exercise, right?
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umamimama
12/09/08

@Crabby Cakes wants some Dance Biscuits.: Wine and potatoes IS my diet.
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travel_more
12/09/08

@umamimama: I literally had two glasses of wine and a potato with salsa for dinner last night. I was so happy. The mister was soooo confused!
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Crabby Cakes
12/09/08

@travel_more: @umamimama: @The HZA.:

This is for you guys:

[www.cnn.com]

WARNING- you may suffer from video-induced fear of potatoes after viewing.
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Cerridwen
12/09/08

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Now, this is a diet I can get behind.
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