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    President Clinton In N. Korea To Negotiate Journalists' Release

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    Image of morninggloria morninggloria
    08/04/09

    In reply to President Clinton In N. Korea To Negotiate Journalists' Release
    "funny lady" who is "by no means intelligent"
    North Korea is decades behind the West's insult technology.
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    08/04/09

    @morninggloria: Seriously. I see your "by no means intelligent" and raise you the Kim Jong-Il scenes in "Team America:World Police."
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    08/04/09

    In reply to President Clinton In N. Korea To Negotiate Journalists' Release
    I wonder how Hillary feels about this? Although, perhaps, this is a case of good cop-bad cop, where she has been the bad cop, and now they send in Bill to schmooze and generally make nice.
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    08/04/09

    @NefariousNewt: This makes sense to me. I am not well-versed on Korean culture (so someone who is, feel free to school me!), but I can see Bil being able to say in kind a bro to bro way with KJ "Yeah, well, you know how women can be sometimes." Not RIGHT, of course, but whatever it takes to build some rapport and get those journalists out of there....
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    08/04/09

    @NefariousNewt: I think Hillary knew from the start Kim Jong Il wanted the rock star. I say let him have his Teen Beat moment if it brings those women home and gives an opening to reach out to the next in line.
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    08/04/09

    @elsamorante: Yeah, but still... you know she didn't appreciate being snubbed by NK. She is Secretary of State, after all. But didn't they snub Condie, too, once?
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    08/04/09

    @NefariousNewt: I think Hillary might be seeing the big picture rather than her own ego. If she has to call in Bill to get those women home, she'll do it. And I'm delighted that she'll put them before herself.
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    08/04/09

    In reply to President Clinton In N. Korea To Negotiate Journalists' Release
    Meanwhile, George W. is conquering the new Beatles Rock Band video game.
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    08/04/09

    @AthertonMerriweather: Hey Laura! I played "She Loves You!"
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    08/04/09

    In reply to President Clinton In N. Korea To Negotiate Journalists' Release
    Question (for those better versed than I): Why will Kim Jong Il have to meet with Clinton?
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    08/04/09

    @dianersb was bit by a zombie: I think because of protocol. While he is not now, he was a President of the United States, so that means he is treated with the highest respect accorded a head of state, though not as much as if it were President Obama.
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    08/04/09

    @dianersb was bit by a zombie: Kim Jong Il is an attention whore. The man loves the spotlight. If he didn't meet with Clinton, that's a whole bunch of photos that will go all over the media in several countries that he won't be in! He's the dictatorial equivalent of a 13 year old girl with her first LiveJournal or Myspace or whatever the kiddies are doing these days.
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    08/04/09

    @NefariousNewt: See I just have a hard time believing that North Korea cares at all for showing anyone respect at all.
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    08/04/09

    @Zombie Ms. Skittles: I can just see him now. Taking glamour photos of himself in the bathroom mirror, writing long and winding posts about the inherent nothingness of life, crushing on sparkly vampires.
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    08/04/09

    @dianersb was bit by a zombie: The article seemed to imply that Zombie Ms. Skittles is right -- Kim Jong Il can't pass up a photo op under normal circumstances, and if he does, it means he's real sick.
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    08/04/09

    @NefariousNewt: I'm kind of digging the co-Presidency. If Obama/Clinton/Clinton are effective at foreign policy, I say Negotiate On, Dream Team.
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    08/04/09

    @dianersb was bit by a zombie: He'll pass Bill a note during the negotiations. "DO YOU LIKE ME? Circle YES or NO."
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    08/04/09

    In reply to President Clinton In N. Korea To Negotiate Journalists' Release
    After reading this article, I am very concerned about Bill Clinton's face. It is a nice face. I pray he can save his face from being lost.
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    08/04/09

    In reply to President Clinton In N. Korea To Negotiate Journalists' Release
    I'm sure Bill will just wink at Kim Jong Il and he'll be so charmed he hands them straight over.
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    08/04/09

    @frankie22: Hopefully Kim Jong II remembers to wear a belt to their meeting so his pants don't get charmed off.
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    07/09/09

    In reply to Detained Journalist Makes Contact, And Michael Jackson Wanted To Help
    I'm probably going to get in trouble for saying this, but why must we bring Michael Jackson into this? What is going in North Korea are serious human rights abuses. The North Korean citizens are essentially Kim Jong Il's prisoners. Kim Jong Il has missiles pointed at Seoul and Hawaii. NK are keeping South Korean, American, and Japanese citizens hostage. I get that Michael Jackson is an icon and a legend, but there are many very important issues going in the world that didn't go away when MJ died. In my opinion, trying to relate MJ to those issues, trivializes them.


    This is not a criticism of Anna, Jezebel, or his fans, more on the MSM that have put Iran, the economy, North Korea, etc. on the back burner in favor of Michael Jackson, and any other celebrity stories.

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    07/09/09

    @Sputnik_Sweetheart: um...the above was NOT a reply to your comment...sorry.
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    07/09/09

    @Sputnik_Sweetheart: I love you. I would like to kiss you. Thank you for saying this. Here's hoping you don't get jumped on by the MJ contingent.
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    07/09/09

    @Sputnik_Sweetheart: I can kind of see Michael Jackson's point though. Kim Jong Il is obviously completely nuts, and has obsessions with expensive things and likes to be worshipped and feel special. Cognac! Golf! Musicals! These are the things that KJI values, and I can see how the biggest pop star from the Enemy Lands bowing to him and giving him a private concert would work out, diplomatically.
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    07/09/09

    @Sputnik_Sweetheart: I have all the sympathy in the world for these two women and hope they are released soon, but they are not hostages. They violated the law of North Korea, and although we may not agree with it, it is their right to enforce it. Ignoring that fact doesn't make it go away. Lisa Ling did a very critical documentary on North Korea for National Geographic so Laura knew going into this that she'd be a high-value prize if they caught her. What has happened since makes a lot of sense in that light, though that doesn't make it right.
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    07/09/09

    @pixiesticks: We don't really know if they broke North Korea's laws. Lee and Ling originally denied that they entered North Korea and could be falsely admitting it now because they see that as the only way to help their situation. North Korea does have a history of kidnapping people outside of their borders.
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    07/09/09

    @Sputnik_Sweetheart: Yes, it does have that history, though that would mean crossing into China to grab them. China would not be happy about that. Still, I wonder about Laura Ling going into this with a great big target on her back. Seems like that would call for extra precautions. Not blaming her, just saying she was taking an extraordinarily big risk even getting close to the border.
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    07/09/09

    In reply to Detained Journalist Makes Contact, And Michael Jackson Wanted To Help
    That's funny, because last week I got a call from Elvis asking if he could help me save print journalism.
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    07/09/09

    In reply to Detained Journalist Makes Contact, And Michael Jackson Wanted To Help
    we violated North Korean law


    And that's the rub . . .

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    07/09/09

    @That-Dude: The first think I thought when I saw that was "Is there a way not to violate North Korean law?"
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    07/09/09

    @That-Dude: I don't think they really did--I think they are admitting to it because it will help their case. At least I hope it will.


    By the way, there's a support page on Facebook for Laura and Euna, and a little bit down the page an explanation of how to send them postcards: [www.facebook.com]

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    07/09/09

    @That-Dude
    : @cocobanal: I suspect that what she said was scripted and someone was monitoring the conversation. North Korea isn't going to let either of them phone home just to be nice. This is the equivalent of those hostage videos where hostages "confess" to violations of law. They're carefully controlling the situation and I don't think you can assume that Laura Ling was voluntarily confessing to violating the law.
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    07/09/09

    @That-Dude: @cocobanal: @doodley is not amused:


    From my brief research, only guided tour travel is allowed in North Korea, and independent travel is strictly prohibited. This doesn't even broach the subject of independent journalists.


    So, they are guilty of a crime. Is the punishment reasonable, not by our set of standards and the charges were most likely trumped up.


    @Madlenka: concur.


    @stoprobbers: probably not, unless your first name is Dear and your last name is Leader.

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    07/09/09

    @That-Dude: one day I promise to learn proper punctuation.
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    07/09/09

    @That-Dude: independent travel is strictly prohibited


    Maybe I'm remembering incorrectly, but I thought that they were on the Chinese side of the border and the allegations are that they crossed over into North Korean territory, which they have denied.

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    07/09/09

    In reply to Detained Journalist Makes Contact, And Michael Jackson Wanted To Help
    Though it seems weirdly ego-centric to hear that Michael Jackson said "Do you think Kim Jong Il is a fan of mine?" not only is plausible, it's a whole fucking lot more than a lot of people in the government have done. Super MJ is right.
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    07/09/09

    @stoprobbers: Not to far fetched. Didn't we ban the sale of ipods and cognac to North Korea as a punishment for Kim Jong Il's actions?
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    07/09/09

    @sshacker: No way. That's HILARIOUS. If I were a North Korean dictator, it'd be Eddy's Samoas Ice Cream. Cut off from that for a month, and I'd be a goner.
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    07/09/09

    In reply to Detained Journalist Makes Contact, And Michael Jackson Wanted To Help
    My lovely brother sent me a text yesterday that pertains to the situation that made me both laugh and go hm:


    "North Korea is behaving like a bunch of eleven year olds pretending to be cartoon bad guys."

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    07/09/09

    @morninggloria: Perhaps we could free them if we sent Kim Jong Il a supply of the finest products from Acme...
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    07/09/09

    @NefariousNewt: Kim Jong Il as Daffy Duck. Or Wyle E. Coyote.
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    07/09/09

    @NefariousNewt: Except instead of sticks of TNT there would be nukes inside.
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    07/09/09

    @NefariousNewt: Or the Road Runner.
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    07/09/09

    In reply to Detained Journalist Makes Contact, And Michael Jackson Wanted To Help
    MJ, we miss you more everyday!
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    07/09/09

    @kongering: Why is there an outline around your comment? Am I the only one who sees it?
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    07/09/09

    @stoprobbers: Nope, I see it too. And before pressing the little plus sign to expand, it was faded. Looked like a ghost comment.
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    07/09/09

    @dianersb was bit by a zombie: Right. Does Jezebel look different to anyone else? I can't find the condense/expand option, and I can't find a programming note.


    Now, I'm going to hide because Hortense is going to kill me for threadjacking. I'm gone, I'm gone!!

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    07/09/09

    @stoprobbers: Is the font different too or am I loosing my mind?
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    07/09/09

    @Triphena: It is different. I like this font better than the usual one, though, so it's the only part of this I'm rolling with.
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    07/09/09

    @stoprobbers: I emailed Hortense with the issues.
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    07/09/09

    @stoprobbers: no I see it, its on gawker too.
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    07/09/09

    @cocobanal: you can email hortense about the star I think
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    07/09/09

    @cocobanal: Email Hortense and let her know. They don't come automatically, you've got to keep track of it yourself :)
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    07/09/09

    In reply to Detained Journalist Makes Contact, And Michael Jackson Wanted To Help
    Didn't Kim Jong Il say he really likes Whitney Houston? Can we get her to write a letter or something?
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    07/09/09

    @hfree: I think LaToya's available. Maybe she could write the letter.
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    07/09/09

    In reply to Detained Journalist Makes Contact, And Michael Jackson Wanted To Help
    My love for Michael Jackson could not grow any more.


    Super MJ COULD SAVE THE WORLD!


    There would have been no WW2 if Michael Jackson was alive and famous during that period.

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    07/09/09

    @yearofthewoman: I really hope this is exaggeration for comic effect.
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    06/22/09

    In reply to Protests In Iran Persist; North Korea Continues Provocations
    The article about Afghanistan that Spencer linked to(I believe it might be the first link) was pretty powerful stuff.


    It's nice to see stories about how some soldiers are trying to help the Afghanis. All to often you only hear about the bad eggs.


    Also, I now may have a bit of a crush on Capt. Harrison.

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