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queenieinmanhattan
07/16/09

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If there is a hell, this Frank Campbell guy is headed right for it. Do not pass go, do not collect $200. Asshole.
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Pizza!Pizza!Pizza!
07/16/09

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So if sh was a minor, isn't this guy basically guilty of spreading kiddie pr0n under (admittedly ridiculous) zero tolerance laws?
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dirtybee
07/16/09

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Oh HELL NO
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dirtybee
07/16/09

@dirtybee: great. do gifs not work?
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susanstohelit
07/16/09

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What the fuck? Suspended for 6 months? This asshole should be fired! Slut-shaming of the highest order - "well, it was really HER FAULT since she was drinking". God I am so fucking angry right now. This poor girl.

Also, Courthouse News Service? If she was begging the guy to stop, then it's RAPE. Not sex. K?
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Jack_Burton
07/16/09

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Maybe they should make lawyers take the MMPI before taking public office.

Failed? Go chase a fucking ambulance.
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Soy-Bean
07/16/09

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I really think that some men don't understand that rape is a crime, or think it's a crime on the same level as, say, loitering. Didn't one of John McCain's buddies once say something like "hey, if you're getting raped anyway, you might as well lay back and enjoy it."

Ah - here it the quote: http://crooksandliars.com/2008/06/14/mccain-fundraiser-rape-is-like-the-weather/
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BlackFrancine
07/16/09

@Soy-Bean: The charmer who said that was Clayton Williams, rich dude, Texan, former gubernatorial candidate. Saying that--TO THE PRESS--was the only thing that kept him from getting elected. And then we got Ann Richards for governor--the brief shining moment in Texas' recent governor record.
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Little Green Frog (Wise Latina)
07/16/09

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The assault happened in 2007, and it is just now being reported? They are just getting around to it??? Grrr.
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chairmanwho
07/16/09

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This story outrages me so much I think it deserves more media attention. I've emailed CNN and NPR with hope that the increased coverage will right the situation.
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femputer
07/16/09

@chairmanwho: Dude, email a real jerk, like O'Reilly or Grace. Even if I don't agree with them, I concede that when they get their outrage on, it gets attention, and THIS deserves everyone's undivided attention.
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Zombies make the heart grow fonder
07/16/09

@femputer: Nancy Grace. Former prosecutor, hard ass annoying she devil when it comes to crime.
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stoprobbers
07/16/09

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WHAT? He did WHAT with WHAT?

Isn't that a crime??
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BeckySharper
07/16/09

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He should be disbarred.

And her lawyers should OWN him by the time they're finished in civil court.
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femputer
07/16/09

@BeckySharper: really, though. SIX MONTHS SUSPENSION? Jesus H. Christ, Kansas Bar. That is major disbarment material. And then that he said to the people he showed that it was "Evidence of criminal activity by several minors" - double wtf? Doesn't evidence of criminal activity compel you, as the prosecutor, to, you know, PROSECUTE?!? I hate the world so much right now.
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BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit)
07/16/09

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Well, the girl was clearly guilty of being a girl.
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cate3710
07/16/09

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Oh THANKS, Megan. Follow up the story about the possibility of abused women getting asylum with THIS punch in the gut. Way to kill the brief glimmer of hope.

Seriously though, this is awful. I would love* to hear the rational behind not prosecuting when there is photographic evidence.

* meaning, I want to hear it, but I know it will only make me mad.
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femputer
07/16/09

@cate3710: and not just the rape prosecution; what about the sexual performance of a child involved here? She was a minor and her rape was watched AND recorded by others. Boo, D.A., Booooooo.
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Das ASHloch (achtundsiebzig)
07/16/09

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I was hoping he was going to offer everyone some alcohol, since cameras were involved.
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missteenwordpower
07/16/09

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"One of them had sex with her in the bed of a truck, despite her repeated pleas for him to stop, while others took photos of it, according to the complaint."

Sorry, this is not "having sex". That's like saying someone who's had a pie shoved into her face so hard she can't breathe is "having dessert". If you hear REPEATED PLEAS to stop, what you are doing = RAPE.
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dianersb was bit by a zombie
07/16/09

@missteenwordpower: And should be prosecuted as such.
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BlackFrancine
07/16/09

@missteenwordpower: THANK YOU! I just wanted to comment about the term "sexual assault," which seems useful in some cases--gropings and whatnot. But since when are we calling old fashioned rape by such a euphemistic term? And for the love of god--like you say--he didn't have sex with her--he RAPED her. And his friends photo'd it. And the system that was supposed to help her, abused and humiliated her further. And now newspapers aren't even acknowledging that there's a word for what happened to her. It turns my stomach.
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femputer
07/16/09

@missteenwordpower: Seriously. That language misuse irks me every time it comes up, which is often. Also, I don't know how they define "Sexual Assault" in Kansas, but that sounds like full-blown Sexual Battery, aka Rape to me. I still don't get why legislatures across the country have abandoned the word "rape." Maybe that's for another discussion, though.
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Scoithniamh
07/16/09

@BlackFrancine: In Arizona, there is no such crime as "rape", just varying degrees of sexual assault.
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BlackFrancine
07/16/09

@Scoithniamh: I think that's how it's unfolding in the criminal justice system around the country. And while having a scale of terms and charges for different offenses is fine, I think the caution that the press uses has gone too far. They've gone from calling a spade a spade (saying the word "rape"), to calling things by their charge according to the criminal code of whatever state ("sexual assault"), to saying "he had sex with her despite her pleas that he stop." It must stop. And I'm a copy editor; I'm the one who fact-checks this kind of crap. But unless you're saying that "he was charged with rape"--I don't think there's any liability in saying "the victim alleges that the assailant raped her while others took pictures and watched." That rant wasn't directed at you, by the way, Scoithniamh. I just started and couldn't stop.
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Scoithniamh
07/16/09

@BlackFrancine: Oh, I know it's not about me. Trust, this particular semantic game appalls me too. That was a bleak day in AZ Crim Law. I had a whole rant about it myself.
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AtomiClash: humanitarian misanthrope
07/16/09

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well, I wasn't feeling stabby enough today. Thanks Kansas!
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