Wow. If by 'horrible' you mean a person with flaws and opinions and a sailor's mouth, yes, she is.
And I suspect, knowing that 'horrible' person as I do, that Ms. Ephron kept Julie away because she wanted to make a movie about a sweet, lost girl who was saved by Julia Child, not a movie about Julie Powell.
Julie Powell is a full-blooded, complicated woman who brilliantly and profanely cursed her way through the ENTIRE FUCKING COOKBOOK - not because she didn't love cooking - but because cooking French food every night for a year when you're broke and working a shitty job til 6 every night is HARD. And real lives don't have happy endings. Julia's husband (and Julia herself) died eventually. Does that ruin it?
@GwynethCachimba: I've been reading Julie Powell's blog and while it's possible she's not a nice person, she is definitely a talented writer. And that's what should count in this movie - nothing else.
@intime: No, what should count in this movie is that her story is interesting. And, frankly, it pales it comparison to Julia's. At least in my estimation.
I saw Meryl Streep on the The Colbert Report and on CUNY TV (Times Talks). She was radiant and smart as always. Nora Ephron was on the latter program, and although she lives in a bubble ("I Feel Bad About My Neck"), she was very funny and clever and looked very good. (I think she'd be happy to hear that.)
Stanley Tucci, who plays Child's husband, was on the panel, and he noted that her success was due in part to the fact that Paul Child was an older, accomplished, well-adjusted man who adored his wife and "allowed" her the freedom to explore her interest in French cuisine. (This was the '50s and '60s, so Tucci wasn't being patronizing).
One question that wasn't asked was whether it mattered that the Childs had no children. It's important to explore the conditions in which women can be creative. Most creative people need support and time.
What amazed me when I saw the movie on Saturday night was the diversity of the audience - all ages (teenagers to senior citizens), healthy representation of both genders, and, on the way out, I heard three different languages spoken around me (not such a feat in NYC, I suppose, but still cool).
This may be a movie about two women, but it's hardly a movie that appeals to women only. Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Hollywood.
Maybe more people would go to see Julie & Julia if the preview featured more explosions, slow motion hair blowing walks, Julia Child in a bikini, and Kid Rock's American Badass playing in the background.
I saw J&J this weekend and very much enjoyed it. As Dodai said, it's a movie about two women who are wrestling with someone other than romance. One of my favorite things about it was that it had lots of sweet moments about marriage, whereas most movies focus on the courtship.
Also: J&J had great-looking previews, including It's Complicated and The Blind Side, starring Sandra Bullock as an evangelical Christian lady who adopts a homeless black kid (who grows up to be Michael Oher of the Baltimore Ravens). I love love love that book, and am very interested in seeing the movie.
@Clare116: I read the galley ages ago, and although I though it wasn't terrific, it was always something I picked up when I had a few minutes to reread something. I'm glad it was made into a movie. I can't wait to see it (esp. with Meryl)!
@SpasticFurchild: I was very much in Powell's situation when I read the book (stuck in a soul-sucking job, feeling like life was passing me by) so I am the only die-hard Julie & Julia book lovers on this board (I think), so I liked the movie very much but still love the book more. Some details are always flattened in book-to-film adaptations. C'est la vie. But the movie was very charming. Jane Lynch, in a short role as Julia's sister, is hilarious and touching.
One thing that totally jumped out at me was that they made the Julie character much less angry and much less profane than her persona in the blog. I suspect the profanity was to get the PG-13 rating (and Stanley Tucci gets the best cursing line in the movie!), which becomes confusing when [SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER] it turns out that Child did not like Powell's work. If you don't know that Powell was cursing the fuck out of every single dish she made, you can't imagine why Child wouldn't be flattered by the project. My friend who hadn't read the book was confused.
@Clare116: Honestly, from what I've pieced together from statements by Judith Jones (Julia's editor), I think it's because Child sensed that Julie didn't find joy in cooking or creating; I don't think Julia was deeply offended by the language or the effort, but was unimpressed with Powell's lack of enjoyment of the actual act of cooking. Which, it has to be said, really makes her project seem all the more gimmicky.
@Clare116:
Apparently they had to keep the real Julie Powell away from Amy Adams during filming, because she's actually a horrible person. Plus the new book is all about her cheating on her husband. That kind of ruins it for me. :(
@laureltreedaphne: I think Julie being irritating is kind of integral to the story, though, the basic message of which is "screw the haters, and keep going." A good message no matter how charismatic and awesome you are (like Julia) or not (like Julie).
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Yeah, I can see that. But I think it contributes to what you said above, about her lack of enjoyment. What makes Julia Child so great was that she took SUCH joy in what she was doing. With Powell, it just seems so contrived - I'm going to do this gimicky thing to get a book deal, and even though I hate it, I'm going to curse and emotionally abuse my husband and force it to work! You know?
@Clare116: I'm reading the blog now for the first time (all three books are on their way to my house, whee!)... I wholeheartedly agree that it's no surprise that Child wasn't too fond of Powell's work!
Sure, it's easy to be raised with gentle liberal values. But more impressive? Coming to learn over a lifetime the value of treating others well for their own sake.
If you need a pro-gay rights cooking maven, Ina Garten wrote in the intro to one of her books (titled Family Style) or something like that about how families can look very different, be they nuclear families, spouses with no children (like her and Jeffrey, who I find adorable), or same-sex couples who make a life together.
@Clare116: Is it wrong that I watch the show and always think that Jeffrey is gay? I'm sure he isn't and they're quite happy, but I could very easily whip up a story of him being closeted or swingin' both ways.
I find it interesting that no one has noted that Julia Child's own husband was accused of being gay, which threatened his career very seriously at the time. She covered it quite significantly in My Life in France, actually, and I wondered "doth Julia protest too much?"
Jimmy Stewart was RACIST! The guy from Harvey hated black people!!! NOOOOO!!! Its like when I heard that Bette Davis had a thing for other women's husbands and may have inadvertently killed one of her own husbands....I just don't want to think about it.
I can put people in their proper historical place, but I always put Jimmy Stewart on the shortlist of dead stars I would love to have dinner with (as well as Bette Davis, though I wouldn't serve any liquor) and now that I know he would probably hate me..well it kind of sucks. But maybe all of that time in hell will have softened him up some.
Things were SO different back then. And I admire someone who can change, and late in life. THAT means a lot. And I remember reading that Julia was an outsider herself in a lot of ways - big and tall, not conventionally pretty, not exactly her daddy's princess. Those who feel rejected are often reactionary.
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And I suspect, knowing that 'horrible' person as I do, that Ms. Ephron kept Julie away because she wanted to make a movie about a sweet, lost girl who was saved by Julia Child, not a movie about Julie Powell.
Julie Powell is a full-blooded, complicated woman who brilliantly and profanely cursed her way through the ENTIRE FUCKING COOKBOOK - not because she didn't love cooking - but because cooking French food every night for a year when you're broke and working a shitty job til 6 every night is HARD. And real lives don't have happy endings. Julia's husband (and Julia herself) died eventually. Does that ruin it?
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Stanley Tucci, who plays Child's husband, was on the panel, and he noted that her success was due in part to the fact that Paul Child was an older, accomplished, well-adjusted man who adored his wife and "allowed" her the freedom to explore her interest in French cuisine. (This was the '50s and '60s, so Tucci wasn't being patronizing).
One question that wasn't asked was whether it mattered that the Childs had no children. It's important to explore the conditions in which women can be creative. Most creative people need support and time.
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This may be a movie about two women, but it's hardly a movie that appeals to women only. Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Hollywood.
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Also: J&J had great-looking previews, including It's Complicated and The Blind Side, starring Sandra Bullock as an evangelical Christian lady who adopts a homeless black kid (who grows up to be Michael Oher of the Baltimore Ravens). I love love love that book, and am very interested in seeing the movie.
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One thing that totally jumped out at me was that they made the Julie character much less angry and much less profane than her persona in the blog. I suspect the profanity was to get the PG-13 rating (and Stanley Tucci gets the best cursing line in the movie!), which becomes confusing when [SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER] it turns out that Child did not like Powell's work. If you don't know that Powell was cursing the fuck out of every single dish she made, you can't imagine why Child wouldn't be flattered by the project. My friend who hadn't read the book was confused.
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Apparently they had to keep the real Julie Powell away from Amy Adams during filming, because she's actually a horrible person. Plus the new book is all about her cheating on her husband. That kind of ruins it for me. :(
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Yeah, I can see that. But I think it contributes to what you said above, about her lack of enjoyment. What makes Julia Child so great was that she took SUCH joy in what she was doing. With Powell, it just seems so contrived - I'm going to do this gimicky thing to get a book deal, and even though I hate it, I'm going to curse and emotionally abuse my husband and force it to work! You know?
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I can put people in their proper historical place, but I always put Jimmy Stewart on the shortlist of dead stars I would love to have dinner with (as well as Bette Davis, though I wouldn't serve any liquor) and now that I know he would probably hate me..well it kind of sucks. But maybe all of that time in hell will have softened him up some.
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