I'm kind of surprised they were allowed to watch, as not too long ago the Hasidic community tried to have female bike riders banned from the neighborhood for indecency
As Hannah, in her blue coat and eggplant sweater, stared at the runners, sweating and puffing their way through the city, all she could think was "I am sooo gonna beat all their asses in a few years." #newyorkcitymarathon
The girl in the middle of the left-hand group has a facial expression that fills me with terror and and inspires instant obedience. I know that face. It's Jewish Bish Plz. It says 'Your hat is is inappropriate, and by the way the whole congregation knows you had a bacon sandwich for breakfast.' #newyorkcitymarathon
Some of these comments make me think that maybe not everyone is aware of how Hasidic people dress? I grew up in NY near one of the largest Hasidic communities in the US, so I'm always thrown off when someone gapes at Hasidic people, or asks if they're Amish. #newyorkcitymarathon
@EarlyGrey:
I read the comments below and didn't get that at all. I think people were mainly noting how cute and put together all these girls look. #newyorkcitymarathon
In an attempt to thwart their lunch money getting stolen, these girls have adopted P. Diddy's new line of Urban Camouflage, allowing them to blend into nearby graffiti and storefronts. #newyorkcitymarathon
"I don't really understand this (quite widespread) investment in understanding Jewish people as the perpetual victims. The last 60 years have constituted quite a turn-around in this situation, and I think it's about time we all recognize it. "
Said here on a Jezebel post- I can only imagine if it was said about any other minority, the uproar it would cause.
My feelings about Israel is complicated as well, but every time I reminded that I'm hated because of my religion I am so thankful and realize how important it is, to have a homeland. #synagogueshooting
@YourDoctrinaire: Absolutely. Neither would an ULTRA-Orthodox likely allow herself to be photographed for a news outlet. Many very religious Jewish papers do not contain photographs of women. Others photoshop sleeves or longer skirts. I say this as a woman who has had to accomodate said restrictions.
though trying to force teens to do what you think is right almost never works, and admittedly, most of these groups are just a bunch of busy-bodies, a druz friend of mine told me something interesting:
apparently, Muslim guys are encouraged to date non-Muslim girls, specifically Jewish girls in order to keep Muslims girl "pure".
it seems that there is a conception that it's okay to date Jewish girls because they are promiscuous (i.e: will sleep with you before marriage) and so in order to get their kicks, young Muslim guys will seek Jewish girls out. naturally, you will not see the opposite- a Muslim girl who will try to date a Jewish boy will be considered a whore and will be at risk of honor killing ( something that is very common and somehow NEVER mentioned here).
@kildavimes: Yes, we all know Muslim men are not capable of real feelings for women, especially Jewish women. They're just in it for the kinky extramarital sex. While I'm not saying no boys are in it for the kicks (boys will be boys, after all, regardless of culture and race), I find it sad and disturbing that you think a certain group of people cannot have a real romance.
As for honor killing never being mentioned on Jezebel, did you at least run a search for "honor killing" before posting that?
@DevilsLawyer: no one says that Muslims are not capabale of real feeling for women- seriously? never said it, never thought it.
all i was saying that according to a friend who is "in the know" being Druz ( i am neither a male nor do i speak fluent Arabic) these are opinions which are expressed frequently thus leading me to suspect that part of the busy-bodies concerns stem from that.
i have no problem with dating/marrying out side race/faith. I have dated guys of various races and faiths. my mom's long time BF was christian-African-American so i don't come from a family that has problems with this sort of thing.
i do realize though (with sadness) that relations between Muslims and Jews in Israel are always tainted with history and that colors all aspects of life.
@kildavimes: Ah, I see now what you meant. Sorry for jumping to conclusions, I should have asked for clarification.
I find it kind of amusing, almost endearing that the busy-bodies think the Jewish girls have to be protected from themselves and the big scary Muslim guys. I guess they don't get that every woman (and man) has to discern whether the people they date are genuine and want the same things from the relationship. As the posting points out, the nosiness is making a clearheaded decision on the relationships harder, not easier. It takes all sorts, I just hope these incidents don't escalate.
I, too, really hope for the day when people can relate to each other purely as individuals without the baggage of history and religion. It's just one of the many reasons that peace, tolerance, and democratization in the ME are moral imperatives.
If Faith is so weak that people are just letting go of it because their other half doesn't practice it, let it die.
...and maybe they could be confusing cause and effect? As people stop listening to a church that tells them they can't marry any Subhumans Who Aren't Just Like Us, they marry out? Somehow, I think that a lot of practising Jews aren't counted by these hooligans on the grounds of them being Not Jewish Enough.
One of the things that I noticed (and that bothered me) was the framing of Jewish "girls" and Arab "men", as if it's a sort of predatory pedophilic endeavor.
And also notice that we're hearing from the 31-year-old man patrolling parking lots for the make-out-fields of local teenagers.
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I read the comments below and didn't get that at all. I think people were mainly noting how cute and put together all these girls look. #newyorkcitymarathon
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ADORBS. #newyorkcitymarathon
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[jezebel.com] #newyorkcitymarathon
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You know what? Anti-Semitism hasn't. #synagogueshooting
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"I don't really understand this (quite widespread) investment in understanding Jewish people as the perpetual victims. The last 60 years have constituted quite a turn-around in this situation, and I think it's about time we all recognize it. "
Said here on a Jezebel post- I can only imagine if it was said about any other minority, the uproar it would cause.
My feelings about Israel is complicated as well, but every time I reminded that I'm hated because of my religion I am so thankful and realize how important it is, to have a homeland. #synagogueshooting
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apparently, Muslim guys are encouraged to date non-Muslim girls, specifically Jewish girls in order to keep Muslims girl "pure".
it seems that there is a conception that it's okay to date Jewish girls because they are promiscuous (i.e: will sleep with you before marriage) and so in order to get their kicks, young Muslim guys will seek Jewish girls out. naturally, you will not see the opposite- a Muslim girl who will try to date a Jewish boy will be considered a whore and will be at risk of honor killing ( something that is very common and somehow NEVER mentioned here).
10/13/09
As for honor killing never being mentioned on Jezebel, did you at least run a search for "honor killing" before posting that?
10/13/09
all i was saying that according to a friend who is "in the know" being Druz ( i am neither a male nor do i speak fluent Arabic) these are opinions which are expressed frequently thus leading me to suspect that part of the busy-bodies concerns stem from that.
i have no problem with dating/marrying out side race/faith. I have dated guys of various races and faiths. my mom's long time BF was christian-African-American so i don't come from a family that has problems with this sort of thing.
i do realize though (with sadness) that relations between Muslims and Jews in Israel are always tainted with history and that colors all aspects of life.
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I find it kind of amusing, almost endearing that the busy-bodies think the Jewish girls have to be protected from themselves and the big scary Muslim guys. I guess they don't get that every woman (and man) has to discern whether the people they date are genuine and want the same things from the relationship. As the posting points out, the nosiness is making a clearheaded decision on the relationships harder, not easier. It takes all sorts, I just hope these incidents don't escalate.
I, too, really hope for the day when people can relate to each other purely as individuals without the baggage of history and religion. It's just one of the many reasons that peace, tolerance, and democratization in the ME are moral imperatives.
10/12/09
If Faith is so weak that people are just letting go of it because their other half doesn't practice it, let it die.
...and maybe they could be confusing cause and effect? As people stop listening to a church that tells them they can't marry any Subhumans Who Aren't Just Like Us, they marry out? Somehow, I think that a lot of practising Jews aren't counted by these hooligans on the grounds of them being Not Jewish Enough.
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One of the things that I noticed (and that bothered me) was the framing of Jewish "girls" and Arab "men", as if it's a sort of predatory pedophilic endeavor.
And also notice that we're hearing from the 31-year-old man patrolling parking lots for the make-out-fields of local teenagers.