You know, I'm not saying it's right or how she treats people is always right, but I can sympathize with how she's ALWAYS wound-up about something. She's in charge of a LOT of tiny people (and was probably in charge of her husband's schedule too, for a while there), and trying to do that much organizing and house/life running on her own has made her a task master who is very pushy about getting things done her way. Namely if they' aren't done the way she has everything organized in her head, it's going to throw a wrench in the works, bigtime, because everything is balanced so precariously. She's certainly not perfect, but she has a lot more of my sympathy than John. I have very little sympathy for cheaters, especially cheaters with kids--you're not just cheating on your spouse, you're cheating on your whole family. #jonandkateplus8passports
Look, I didn't have a perfect childhood. In fact, I remember a lot of the fights you guys had or I had with you and they seem similar to some of the stuff TLC shows. But I want to thank you. Because you never abandoned me to go to the south of France with a 22 year old, because you would have never forwent games of soccer to talk to creepy stalkers on the edge of our yard (also, you didn't have creepy stalkers who hung out around our house, but mostly because no matter what you DID do, nobody ever filmed it and put it on national television and the internet.
I still think their kids are adorable and want to steal one. Surely they wouldn't miss ONE. Hell, I'm betting Jon wouldn't notice at all. #jonandkateplus8passports
@sybann: My husband (who always pretends to hate the shows I watch, but then watches them religiously) loooves Aaden and Alexis. Aaden because he refers to himself as "Dragon" and Alexis because she carries around a toy alligator everywhere she goes. They are also the odd ones out in their little gender groups. #jonandkateplus8passports
@sybann: I have a favorite, and I'll admit it--Alexis, because I love how she's into snakes and lizards and thinks they're so cute and cuddly. She cracks me up. #jonandkateplus8passports
@justcallmeangel: I like creepy crawlies too - picked up a baby snake (it was dusk) to put it in the bushes the other day and didn't realize until I got in the car that it was too dark to see whether or not it was a copperhead - I am whacked. #jonandkateplus8passports
@sybann: I personally am not into snakes or lizards, but I love it that she is--I love her little personality, and I loved watching her hugging a big, hard plastic, not-cuddly toy lizard as if it were a teddy bear.
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@justcallmeangel: I didn't - I am quick as a bunny - and a copperhead is a poisonous reptile - indigenous and the babies are POTENT. I was being an idiot - not thinking - end of the work day. #jonandkateplus8passports
You can see how Kate really badgered him and spoke down to him in the first clip, and then you can see him completely act like a douchebag to his children in the rest of them...and then you understand why Kate hates him so much.
That being said, I have a number of friends that have divorced parents that haven't ruined their children with their divorce...because they don't speak ill of their ex and they always put the kids first. My best friends parents will meet her for dinner together, even though they are in new relationships and have been divorced for 10 years. Of course, I have another friend who couldn't invite both parents to her law school graduation because she didn't want to "deal with it." That's very sad and unfair. #jonandkateplus8passports
Anyone else think the kids are too young to appreciate "where their ancestor's came from?" Forget the nightmare of getting them to Korea, what would they really get out of being there? #jonandkateplus8passports
@highjump: I think that you're probably right about the sextuplets, but I bet that the twins are old enough to get something out of it. I became very interested in my geneology when I was 9 or 10. #jonandkateplus8passports
@highjump: I don't know - my parents started taking me to India when I was still an infant, and I will forever be grateful that they made that effort. I don't know if I would have the same emotional connection to the country if I *just* started going as a teenager. #jonandkateplus8passports
@Mary McCarthyite: I think they were separately heinous people before they even met. Marriage, money and fame just enhanced what was already there. #jonandkateplus8passports
@Triana Orpheus: I'm not entirely sure about that. Watching them interact has always reminded me of watching my parents interact. Seriously, this is exactly how they sound with each other. When they were in the same room for any extended amount of time I would (hell, still do) find myself thinking "wow, you are both giant assholes". But separately, while they both still have their bad points, the good ones are at least also visible, and the bad ones are much less magnifyed #jonandkateplus8passports
@colormeroutine: But you just proved my point. Separately, Jon is a giant asshole that sleeps with his kids' babysitter, steals from his family's bank account and (possibly) emotionally abuses his girlfriend. And Kate is just an attention starved wretch that will do anything for money. These people have zero redeeming qualities, separate or together. #jonandkateplus8passports
@Triana Orpheus: They really weren't, it's sad to see what they became. There's old home movies that have been shown on TLC that show happy, cute, perky people. Jon used to emote and Kate used to be positive and lovely. #jonandkateplus8passports
@colormeroutine: This is why I've watched K+J fiathfully since the beginning - they are my parents. I get them, they're mostly nasty to each otehr but ... I'm not sure where I'm going wih that. I'm oddly sympathetic to them. Stockholm, I guess. #jonandkateplus8passports
@CurtCole: first I read that as "plane crash," and I thought "why yes, yes it is." Then I read it again and it said "crane plash" and I thought, "fair enough, that's a picture of a crane." But then I thought, "What in the world is a plash?" Now I don't know what to think anymore... #jonandkateplus8passports
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They should really just say it.
Mr Gosselin is a dumbshit who didn't read the contract, and wants martyrdom for doing his fucking job. #jongosselinlegaldocuments
You know, is he a douchebag? Yes. But the fact is the contract does appear to be designed to circumvent child labor laws and I'm sure this contract is similar to MANY reality show contracts that involve kids. It will be interesting to see how this is resolved.
eta: I mean just see a couple posts up with the whole Nadya Suleman mess. I'd like to see these corporations (more than the parents) held accountable for the fact that they appear to be making millions off the backs of these kids.
@bluebears: Agree. Except for the small matter that Jon and Kate willingly entered into these contracts. They denied their kids personal payment as much as TLC did. #jongosselinlegaldocuments
That water clip drives me crazy now. Months ago when I first saw it I thought Kate WAS being mean. Then I started working with kindergartners. And today one of them said she was DYING, SO THIRSTY, OH GOD I NEED THE WATER. And this was after she spent 2 minutes at the water fountain gulping water. I said after she finished working she could get a drink, and then A. every other child at the table suddenly was SO THIRSTY OH GOD CAN I GO TO THE FOUNTAIN, and B. She burst into tears and said it was unfair I wasn't letting her get water.
@AlmostZooey: I totally agree that kindergartens are melodramatic, and I doubt she was dying of thirst or whatever, but it seemed really cold that Kate listened to her kid complain about how thirsty she was and then asked for a bottle of water for herself. I'd be with you if she hadn't taken that big swig of water. #jongosselinlegaldocuments
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Look, I didn't have a perfect childhood. In fact, I remember a lot of the fights you guys had or I had with you and they seem similar to some of the stuff TLC shows. But I want to thank you. Because you never abandoned me to go to the south of France with a 22 year old, because you would have never forwent games of soccer to talk to creepy stalkers on the edge of our yard (also, you didn't have creepy stalkers who hung out around our house, but mostly because no matter what you DID do, nobody ever filmed it and put it on national television and the internet.
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P.S. I hope you didn't get bitten. Or poisoned. I don't know what a copperhead is. #jonandkateplus8passports
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That being said, I have a number of friends that have divorced parents that haven't ruined their children with their divorce...because they don't speak ill of their ex and they always put the kids first. My best friends parents will meet her for dinner together, even though they are in new relationships and have been divorced for 10 years. Of course, I have another friend who couldn't invite both parents to her law school graduation because she didn't want to "deal with it." That's very sad and unfair. #jonandkateplus8passports
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Why would you want to mimic that hairstyle? It is a total crane plash.
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Mr Gosselin is a dumbshit who didn't read the contract, and wants martyrdom for doing his fucking job. #jongosselinlegaldocuments
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eta: I mean just see a couple posts up with the whole Nadya Suleman mess. I'd like to see these corporations (more than the parents) held accountable for the fact that they appear to be making millions off the backs of these kids.
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Seriously, that clip is ridiculous. #jongosselinlegaldocuments
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