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    Image of Katxyz Katxyz
    12/09/09

    In reply to Playing Dumb: Jon Stewart Calls Out Gretchen Carlson On Ditz Act
    She's dumb enough to hide her amazing credentials, and that's too dumb for me.
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    Image of Kobayashi Maru Kobayashi Maru
    12/09/09

    In reply to Playing Dumb: Jon Stewart Calls Out Gretchen Carlson On Ditz Act
    Dollars to donuts that Fox calls Jon Stewart sexist for saying Carlson is "stupid", and thereby purposely missing the point entirely.
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    Image of maude_flanders maude_flanders
    12/09/09

    In reply to Playing Dumb: Jon Stewart Calls Out Gretchen Carlson On Ditz Act
    Enh....whether she's faking it or not...fuck her. Fuck all of them.

    Sorry, that's all I got.

    I knew "Fox and Friends" was bad, but after those clips...man.

    If she's "faking" stupid in order to say stupid, fearmongering things about Obama, she sold me. The ends here are the same, regardless of the means, yes?

    And here's the thing--SHE wanted to work on Fox. They can't have someone with intellectual integrity or dignity sullying up the tone of the show, can they?

    I get it--she's despicable because she (if not Janet and Jack--HA!) should know better. It's like Jon (swoon) pointed out--the stupidity and self-congratulatory, hateful ignorance Fox manufactures is doubly bad when spouted by people who pursued an higher education in their past and should otherwise probably know better, but exaggerate or bald-faced lie to indulge an audience with base or fear-influenced instincts.

    If she wants this job so badly or actually, personally dislikes Obama so much that she thinks it's kosher to to imply Obama is some sort of tyrant (or, at least, in league with them), why should that Stanford degree get in her way?

    It's brilliant--she can express irrational or indefensible loathing for Obama passively aggressively (Chavez DOES have a point; I won't say he's IGNORANT, but he IS a lawyer, so uh...you make up your mind, folks, one goes with the other).

    Guess it's harder to play shit like that when, you know, you also have to pretend you're literate. I have plenty of problems with Obama, but I'll take Rachel Maddow's criticisms over this twit (don't care if she studied at Oxford, she plays a twit to work on this show and that's all that matters) any day.

    Another thing---isn't an "ignoramus" just a word of ignorant PERSON, period?

    How come the other non-Fox 24 hour networks (other than Maddow, Olbermann and--though my hormones might be talking--A Coop, a little) do what the Daily Show and the Colbert Report can?

    I guess a variety show doesn't face the same restraints or the penalties that come with "professionalism" in contemporary media, huh?
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    12/09/09

    @maude_flanders: "Etymology: Ignoramus, ignorant lawyer in Ignoramus (1615), play by George Ruggle, from Latin, literally, we are ignorant of."

    [m-w.com]

    That's the only connection Ignoramus has with lawyers, ignorant or otherwise.
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    Image of maude_flanders maude_flanders
    12/09/09

    @laikapants: did you get that from Google ;)?

    I found that play reference too. Girlfriend doesn't just lie about being stupid, she lies about Google...or at least, lays on the stupidity extra thick by being (pretending to be?) illiterate. Had to work extra hard to legitimize an accusation from Chavez without actually owning her agreement.

    Ugh...what shitfaces they all are.
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    12/09/09

    In reply to Playing Dumb: Jon Stewart Calls Out Gretchen Carlson On Ditz Act
    She always reminds me of Cheri Oteri on Morning Latte. Always.
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    Image of prettycool prettycool
    12/09/09

    @Newsgirl: She's tough. Tough cookie.
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    Image of BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit) BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit)
    12/09/09

    In reply to Playing Dumb: Jon Stewart Calls Out Gretchen Carlson On Ditz Act
    Gretchen, you're out. Of the women. You're out. Pack up your tampons and leave. Bad enough we have dumb broads with big mouths, tiny brains, and a large audience (Palin, Prejean) spreading the illusion of female inferiority - but to have a smart one do this ON PURPOSE is unforgivable.
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    12/09/09

    @BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit): I really wish we could kick people out of womanhood.
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    Image of TheUptightMidwesterner TheUptightMidwesterner
    12/09/09

    @BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit): That's the ticket!

    Seriously- I MET her back when she was Miss Minnesota, and she is a fucking genius and had she not won Miss America, she would have had a full ride at Julliard- or a Rhodes Scholar. She had all that going for her and now she is this..Blech.
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    12/09/09

    @BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit): I second this decision.
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    Image of JinxyMcDeath JinxyMcDeath
    12/09/09

    In reply to Playing Dumb: Jon Stewart Calls Out Gretchen Carlson On Ditz Act
    This was awesome and totally deserved. Gretchen, how do you sleep at night? You are clearly a woman who has done a lot to be very successful in life. You have studied hard, excelled, applied to and attended the best schools, obtained quite a respectable career, and yet now you act like you don't know what "Czar" means. You pretend like you had to look it up! Girl, you and I both know that shit was something we learned in fucking middle school. And you know you got a 100% on that vocab quiz, too. Stop.it.now.
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    Image of AtomiClash: humanitarian misanthrope AtomiClash: humanitarian misanthrope
    12/09/09

    @JinxyMcDeath: Honestly, Stanford and Oxford should revoke her degrees on account of blatant misuse (or non-use, as the case may be.)
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    12/09/09

    @JinxyMcDeath: Anyone who has ever done more than a handful of NYT crossword puzzles should know "czar". It comes up fairly often.
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    12/09/09

    @JinxyMcDeath: "Czar" is one of those forn words. She's a Real American (r) and speaks English.
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    12/09/09

    @JinxyMcDeath: The "czar" thing especially pisses me off because people act like it's an official title, but it's not. It's basically a nickname, because "secretary of the department of the whoza whatsit and something else" is really long and cumbersome to say. Obviously none of these people have any real "czar-like" powers. It's ridiculous.
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    Image of emfish55 emfish55
    12/09/09

    In reply to Playing Dumb: Jon Stewart Calls Out Gretchen Carlson On Ditz Act
    Which is worse for Stanford's reputation as a venerable university:

    (1) Graduates of Stanford don't know what "czar" or "ignoramus" mean.

    (2) Graduates of Stanford are willing to pretend not to know what "czar" or "ignoramus" mean in order to condescend to the uneducated and pick up a fat paycheck on a national news program.

    Discuss.
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    Image of AtomiClash: humanitarian misanthrope AtomiClash: humanitarian misanthrope
    12/09/09

    @emfish55: as to the ignoramus, Stewart nailed it. "I'm not a fan of that Chavez, but Obama IS a lawyer..."
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    Image of nancydrewme nancydrewme
    12/09/09

    @emfish55: Between Carlson and Condie, I'm thinking Stanford's reputation as liberal school is finally over.
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    Image of willwriteforfood willwriteforfood
    12/09/09

    @nancydrewme: Stanford has a reputation as a liberal school? That's news to me. But I went to Berkeley, so Stanford was always considered the fascist school compared to the Marxist one an hour away.
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    Image of Jack_Burton Jack_Burton
    12/09/09

    @emfish55: And Megyn Kelly has done wonders for the reps of Albany and Syracuse... But, at least Kelly is careful enough to avoid stating blatant errors of fact, and frequently corrects her co-anchors (and Bill O'Reilly) when they are too drunk on the Kool-Aid.

    It's funny that they are both intellectually outshined by the monopoly of common sense on Fox, Shepard Smith, who went to University of Mississippi.
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    Image of KiddyKat KiddyKat
    12/09/09

    @emfish55: Woah, woah, woah...every school has it's share of assholes. EVEN Berkeley (yes, there's a Young Republicans or whatnot chapter there). The dipshits they produce do not outweigh the socially conscious and responsible majority just b/c they aren't on TV or in government.

    TEH END
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    12/09/09

    @KiddyKat: My comment was a joke. I know Stanford's a good school and I know great people who went there. I just think it's funny that any way you slice it, Carlson is either dumb/ignorant or cynical/unethical. Neither of which is befitting a graduate of any school, but especially not one with a reputation like Stanford's.
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    12/09/09

    @emfish55: I know it was a joke. I was just...responding. My bad if it didn't come across.
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    Image of morninggloria morninggloria
    12/09/09

    In reply to Playing Dumb: Jon Stewart Calls Out Gretchen Carlson On Ditz Act
    In 1999, Gretchen Carlson performed the first ever self-lobotomy in the history of Western medicine.

    She spent the next ten years alternately twirling, googling, and frowning.
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    Image of NewsBunny NewsBunny
    12/09/09

    In reply to Playing Dumb: Jon Stewart Calls Out Gretchen Carlson On Ditz Act
    I want a cage match between this alleged ditz and Christiane Amanpour.
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    12/09/09

    @NewsBunny: I want to referee that cage match!
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    Image of femme-bot femme-bot
    12/09/09

    In reply to Playing Dumb: Jon Stewart Calls Out Gretchen Carlson On Ditz Act
    But y'see, fox news CAN'T have smart women on. If they had smart women on they might have to admit women are people.
    Also a smart woman might intimidate the angry white men who watch fox.
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    Image of DutchessOfDork DutchessOfDork
    12/09/09

    @femme-bot: Megyn Kelly isn't a dumb woman and is the least ditzy, shrill and vapid of them all. However, she's pretty racist and bigoted.
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    12/09/09

    @DutchessOfDork: Heh....MeGYN...
    Sorry, I'm 12. I personally believe that racist = dumb. Or at least ignorant.
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    Image of DutchessOfDork DutchessOfDork
    12/09/09

    @femme-bot: Yeah that is true, but on the Fox level on blonde women she's brilliant :P
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    Image of SarahMC SarahMC
    12/09/09

    @femme-bot: They put women on because they know the knuckledraggers at home want something purdy to look at. BUT they make them dumb it down so not to intimidate said viewers. It's disgusting.
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    Image of bluewine bluewine
    12/09/09

    @SarahMC: It also gives the knuckledraggers an opportunity to argue that their views can't possibly be sexist, because look at the purdy ladies who agree with their views!
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    12/09/09

    @bluewine: Ooh, good point, I didn't think of that.
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    Image of NellMood NellMood
    12/09/09

    In reply to Playing Dumb: Jon Stewart Calls Out Gretchen Carlson On Ditz Act
    This act is so insulting to her and to her audience. I wonder if this is something she chose to do or something that she was told to do.
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    Image of JessicaLovejoy: Laughing, riding, cornholing! JessicaLovejoy: Laughing, riding, cornholing!
    12/09/09

    In reply to Playing Dumb: Jon Stewart Calls Out Gretchen Carlson On Ditz Act
    "dumb blonde" schtick

    wrinkling her nose and innocently wondering

    she may not be as simple and hair-twirling as she lets on.

    Dumbing yourself down....to work an audience into a populist frenzy

    disingenuously playing into gendered soccer mom, gee whiz cliches


    Tee-hee guise, you already posted this!

    [jezebel.com]
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    Image of Penny Penny
    12/09/09

    In reply to Playing Dumb: Jon Stewart Calls Out Gretchen Carlson On Ditz Act
    Stanford AND Oxford (the Euuuurope one)?

    Now I am depressed.
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    Image of JerkoftheMonth JerkoftheMonth
    12/09/09

    @Penny: Well, it does seem to have been a year/semester abroad to Oxford, which may not be the same as getting accepted to it as a regular student...
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    Image of Penny Penny
    12/09/09

    @JerkoftheMonth: Still! And, Stanford? Damn.
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    12/09/09

    In reply to Playing Dumb: Jon Stewart Calls Out Gretchen Carlson On Ditz Act
    I'm surprised she didn't think that an ignoramus was a dinosaur.

    Oh wait, those never existed.
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    Image of JessicaLovejoy: Laughing, riding, cornholing! JessicaLovejoy: Laughing, riding, cornholing!
    12/09/09

    @Penny: Um, of course they did, how else would Nazis get around?
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    12/01/09

    In reply to Jon Stewart Makes White House Crasher Story Less Sad, More Funny
    Gaffigan, the whitest man in America, how you slay us.
    More "My Boys".
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