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mommy_dearest
10/16/09

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Based on that picture of Career Choices for Girls According to Video Games, I choose to be Tinkerbell. #gardasil
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seresy
10/17/09

@mommy_dearest: I chose to rescue kidnapped princesses. Unfortunately that market is quite small, so I'm hanging on to my current position until something in my true calling opens up. #gardasil
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La Chica Lucy
10/16/09

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I'm surprised NC has LIFE sentences or even 80-year sentences for rape. In NY rape is a B Felony! That's right, folks, in NYS you will do more time for drug possession than for rape. It makes me fucking sick. #gardasil
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5ft of fury
10/16/09

@La Chica Lucy: Priorities. We don't have them. Ugh, it makes me sick to think that people will honestly get more outraged at animal abuse (which is terrible but IMO not greater than human suffering) than at domestic violence and rape. Or that the US and our shit for brains drug policy crowds already overcrowded and underfunded prisons with drug abusers and as a result has to let violent, repeat offenders out early. Policy fail. #gardasil
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winner
10/16/09

@La Chica Lucy: For fucking real. And only a Class B felony if the victim is 11 or younger. Class D if she's 15 or older. And Class E if she's 17 or older. #gardasil
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Red-headed bookworm
10/16/09

@La Chica Lucy: I worked with a couple guys convicted of rape (two different jobs), one got probation for confining and raping a woman with his friend, the other served two years of a ten year sentence for drugging/getting drunk underage boys and raping them. In comparison, serving 80 years is a pretty harsh sentence.
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Nariel
10/17/09

@La Chica Lucy: Southern states are usually harsher on sex crimes. I think child rape is a capital offense in Louisiana. #gardasil
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redqueenmeg
10/16/09

In reply to New HPV Vaccine Approved • North Carolina Set To Release Child Rapists
Morehouse... what? Sunglasses? What? Did I just wake up? I mean, I did, but ... WHAT? #gardasil
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Ipomoea
10/16/09

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You know, I'm happy that the FDA is approving HPV vaccines, but when the fuck are they going to start approving them for use in women over 26, so my gynecologist can give it to me and I don't have to pay $350+ out of pocket? SOME OF US ARE OLDER, FDA! #gardasil
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BoatGirl
10/16/09

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John McCain - You did something good!

Is it Opposite Day and no one told me? #gardasil
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La Chica Lucy
10/16/09

@BoatGirl: I have to admit, I was waay cynical at first, thinking this was some GOP ploy to attract African American voters, but after reading the story, that is clearly not the case. Every now and then, McCain does something classy. #gardasil
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jleigh
10/16/09

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Just to be clear, the NC change in life sentences was not by the legislature, but was a change in interpretation by the Courts. The law says an 80 year sentence is a life sentence, and so they're now going to treat it that way. (The AG argued it just meant eligibility for parole, not the length of the sentence.) The article is very fear-monger-y. All the people mentioned have been in prison for over 30 years and are eligible because of good time credits. Also, 80 years is relatively high compared to most other life sentences I've seen which are often more like 25, 30, or 40 years. #gardasil
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CherriSpryte
10/16/09

@jleigh: A life sentence isn't "you go to prison until you're dead"? I didn't know that. #gardasil
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5ft of fury
10/16/09

@jleigh: All valid points. And yet, I still don't think that a convicted rapist (much less a convicted child rapist) should ever be released back into society again, even if they have been on good behavior (although it might be difficult to be on "bad behavior" since there usually aren't girls in prison to rape). That's just not what "life sentence" should mean. #gardasil
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BytheSea
10/16/09

@5ft of fury: Do we know that the men themselves weren't children or near-children when the rapes occured? The age of the girl remains the same but the man grows older, so while a 17 year old man raping a 14 year old girlfriend is disgusting, it's not quite the same as a 57 year old man who, according to the books, is known for raping 14 year olds. Other jezzies have pointed out that the justice system often doesn't account for this, turning a technical pedo by really a rapist into a psychotic monster on the books. #gardasil
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winner
10/16/09

@BytheSea: It looks like all the rapes involving children were B1 Felonies in North Cackilacki which means that the defendant was at least 12 years-old and at least 4 years older than the victim.

The 9 year old was raped by a 21 year old and the 15 year old was raped by a 22 year old. Haven't looked into the rest.

My head is all for strict interpretation of the constitution; my heart is pissed because a violent crime is a violent crime. #gardasil
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BytheSea
10/16/09

@winner: But a 57 year old who committed one sexual assault when he was 20, against someoen who was close to his age, is morelikely to be rehabilitated and less lkely to committ a crimeagain than a 57 year old who raped a 14 year old. #gardasil
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winner
10/16/09

@BytheSea: No I totally agree with you. I'm a huge proponent of rehabilitation over incarceration. That said, my heart goes out to the victim and I can only imagine what they're going through right now. #gardasil
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EkaterinaBallerina
10/16/09

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Please, please would John McCain send that letter to Rep. Lynn Jenkins. She needs to get her head out of her ass. #gardasil
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IamnotStarJones
08/15/09

In reply to Healthcare Protester Katy Abram & The Perils Of Citizen Punditry
I'm imagining what Katy would do if she read Howard Zinn's 'A People's History of the United States.'

And laughing.
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shehulkSMASH
08/13/09

In reply to Healthcare Protester Katy Abram & The Perils Of Citizen Punditry
Why do you portray people who oppose Obama's healthcare plan as mouth-breathing, excitable wackjobs? Perhaps the only outlet for average Americans who can't write a New York Times Op-Ed piece is to angrily protest?
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veronykah
08/14/09

@shehulkSMASH: Because I have yet to hear a cogent argument from someone opposed to this plan.
[well that would be MY answer to that question.]
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RaisedOnWhiskey
08/13/09

In reply to Healthcare Protester Katy Abram & The Perils Of Citizen Punditry
I saw the LO interview last night. I started off nervous for her, but I couldn't feel bad for her because she agrees to be interviewed on national tv when her research and knowledge is based on what Hannity and her preacher tell her to believe. The "goodness of the people" instead of the government is a red-flag that she is evangelical. There is a theory that if we allow the government to take care of us, then we rely on government rather than God, and Jesus is supposed to have our primary allegiance and not the government. If it really was about "goodness of the people," then we'd have single payer because all people are equal, and no one other than a sociopath would allow someone to be sick rather than receive care. Instead, they want you going to church to prove that you're worthy of their charity. It was this hypocrisy that first made me question my faith.
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Laulau
08/13/09

@BuyMoreMakeup: Huh. So if we rely on the "goodness of the people", that's still technically relying on God, but if we rely on a just government, it's not? I guess it has been so long since I believed that I can no longer wrap my mind in the same ways.
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RaisedOnWhiskey
08/13/09

@Laulau: It was something that I read in "Quiverfull," so I never actually heard it articulated by believers. I've been out of the church for 5 years, and that passage stuck out for me because it finally tied together the disconnect that I see that allows someone to call themselves Christian but abhor all social welfare programs and hold on to their tax dollars so greedily. I'm not sure how many evangelicals have really thought through it either considering there aren't a whole lot that have thought through their faith and political convictions. The government is a secular institution, unless it's led by W. When Katy made the comment that she never worried about her country until now, she didn't have to because they had a real man of faith in office. No matter how many times Obama says he's a Christian, they aren't going to believe him. It's only in the past year admitted that I don't believe anymore. I live in the middle of the Bible Belt, so very few people know. I've been reading a lot lately about evangelicals and still have "friends" from my old church through FB.
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Sunshineyness
08/13/09

In reply to Healthcare Protester Katy Abram & The Perils Of Citizen Punditry
When I was a kid my mother would see how I'd get angry and worked up over a lot of issues around me that bothered me. And she'd see when I'd yell at people angerly about them that nothing got solved. So, she sat me down and told me the best piece of advice I ever got on this matter:

"Calm yourself down or everyone will dismiss you as ignorant and crazy. Do your homework and do your best to get your facts straight so no one can nitpick them and use that against you and whatever you do stay calm and sane."

I certainly disagree with the woman but I'd respect, listen, and not roll my eyes at her if she listened to my mother's advice.
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pixie
08/13/09

In reply to Healthcare Protester Katy Abram & The Perils Of Citizen Punditry
A quick google yielded an amazon.com book review by Katy (I'm fairly certain). In the review, dated 2004, she cites how much her husband makes a year and how much she earned when she was working. This would seem to refute her claim that she doesn't know what her family's income is.

Also, contrary to her statement, "I'm 35 years old and have never been interested in politics!" she sure does have a lot to say in her review of Sean Hannity's book.

Have a look:

[www.amazon.com]
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bookling
08/13/09

@pixie: Based on the amount stated there (~85,000 between her and her husband), she is certainly not poor. that she thinks this is "poor" and "less than your liberal paycheck" says to me that she is really just ignorant of how worse off other people are.
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FalinLagicide
08/13/09

In reply to Healthcare Protester Katy Abram & The Perils Of Citizen Punditry
I have no sympathy for these know-nothings. She chose to ask an animated question at a town hall meeting, despite recognizing that she doesn't know anything. I'm sure a lot of people were at the town hall in hopes of educating themselves but instead had to hear her ignorant interpretation of the constitution. Just because we had a know nothing as a Republican Vice-Presidential candidate doesn't mean that we should let every housewife from "God's country" come on our news shows to give their opinions.
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meritxell: an erotic life
08/13/09

In reply to Healthcare Protester Katy Abram & The Perils Of Citizen Punditry
The whole entire federalist structure of the Constitution was set up to protect the government from dumbasses like Ms. Abram here. Her beloved founding fathers who hated the auto industry (??!!) would likely have considered her part of the mob rule that a representative democracy is supposed to guard against.
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Alohamaid
08/13/09

In reply to Healthcare Protester Katy Abram & The Perils Of Citizen Punditry
You know I think this was a great and very generous article. I however am not so generous to Katy. Ok I agree she's not evil but um she is IGNORANT and on some level knows it so why not just STFU until you learn more about what you're talking about. Why not start with how much you're paying per month for health insurance and how FUCKED you'd be in you lost your job and had to buy private insurance or lost your drug plan. Then maybe take a trip to places with socialized health care like the UK or Canada and see how high the quality of care is and that people are not waiting 2 hours in line for bread. Then maybe READ the constitution and the history of the new deal and how many things not in the constitution as it was written you take for granted (like your right to vote) then get back to me.
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08/13/09

@Alohamaid: THANK you! I'll give her SOME credit for realizing she doesn't know what she's talking about but Katy hon, at that point the PATRIOTIC thing to do is GET YERSELF SOME BOOK LEARNIN' and fix that, so then you WILL know what you're talking about.
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