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jigglyball
07/17/09

In reply to Gerard On Jen: "We're Very Much In Love"
Oh, Joseph-Gordon Levitt, you are splendid. 500 Days of Summer is getting great reviews, so let's go ahead and put a sequel in motion. My working title is 500 Days in My Pants. Nothing about it will be shallow. In fact, it will be deep. Really, really deep.
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Lolita Hazed
07/17/09

@jigglyball: There will be rave "reviews".

On my part.
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Callinectes
07/17/09

In reply to Gerard On Jen: "We're Very Much In Love"
She's only using you to make Brad jealous, Gerard. And to get pregnant.
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Triphena
07/17/09

In reply to Gerard On Jen: "We're Very Much In Love"
Is it possible to beat someone sterile? I mean, I know that's a quote from someone dink trying to get his 15 minutes, but it seems possible, I guess.
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schweppes
07/17/09

@Triphena: Absolutely - men's reproductive parts are all outside of the body; enough trauma and there's no reason why it wouldn't - - - I'm sure every ER doc has stories.
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Gretchen is a new kitten mom!
07/17/09

@Triphena: It is possible. I had an uncle who was sterile from trying to cross a fence quickly during the Korean War. He slipped at a crucial point in the operation and that was that.
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Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny.
07/17/09

@Triphena: Also, if this happened young enough would it have had an effect on his hormones and thus be a factor in his high voice, feminine nature and asexual tendencies? *
* I realize that this could be a completely stupid question so please don't make fun of me.
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kkatt
07/17/09

In reply to Gerard On Jen: "We're Very Much In Love"
And then maybe the tree will start talking to you and will pick you up and you will stride into the gates of hell to fight a mighty battle, where you win the heart of an elf maiden and get a cool sword. Then you will go to another battle and then have to convince this guy to help you out but he is possessed by some evil douchebag with bad makeup but he'll get thrown off a tower so it'll be ok. And then you fight some more and then you will win. And everyone is happy until World War Two and then you fight some more. Or maybe your kids will. We'll see what happens.
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LipstickLibrarian
07/17/09

In reply to Gerard On Jen: "We're Very Much In Love"
She tried to hook up with the lead singer but was turned down and ended up coming on to the drummer.

Stars: They're just like us!
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schweppes
07/17/09

In reply to Gerard On Jen: "We're Very Much In Love"
NotTinaFey on twitter is, shockingly, actually not Tina Fey.
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Laulau
07/17/09

In reply to Gerard On Jen: "We're Very Much In Love"
Aww, I think "Sugarbread" is the cutest last name ever.
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suck_it_monkeys
07/17/09

@Laulau: Um, my full name is Suck_it_monkeys Puppydogicecreamcone, and I completely disagree with you.
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Dwangela
07/17/09

In reply to Gerard On Jen: "We're Very Much In Love"
RE: Kenneth the Page/30 Rock Emmy nominations. I love 30 Rock, but I don't understand many of its nominations, especially those for Tracy Morgan and Kenneth the Page, and the FOUR nominations in the writing category.
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Hiroine Protagonist
09/20/09

@Dwangela: Really? Consider the competition. I know Jim Belushi is crying his heart out.
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RosietheRiveting
07/17/09

In reply to Gerard On Jen: "We're Very Much In Love"
I suddenly have a mental image of Jennifer Aniston going all Miss Haversham...

Do not joke with the Aniston about marriage Mr. Butler! She's already picked out your tux!
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AtomiClash: humanitarian misanthrope
07/17/09

@RosietheRiveting: Oh yes, we've had many a discussion here about the fact that she CLEARLY has pieces of her wedding cake from her marriage to Brad in her attic.
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RosietheRiveting
07/17/09

@AtomiClash: humanitarian misanthrope: I feel bad for her in the sense that she's beautiful, she's successful, but she's been made into a marriage craving loon. Then I realize she can pay off my student loans with her pocket change and bring on the snark again.
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scullymurphy
07/17/09

@RosietheRiveting: See I don't see Jen as marriage-hungry at all. I think that's just the trope the media throws at her. In fact, I think it's pretty amusing that Brangelina seems to be in melt-down while Ms. Aniston is cool as a cucumber flirting with hot Scottish co-stars.
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LaComtesse
07/17/09

@scullymurphy: No, don’t you understand—every woman over 40 is marriage crazy, and every woman who is marriage crazy is baby crazy. This is ESPECIALLY true if the woman has already shamed herself with a divorce, and even MORE so if her ex has found happiness with a woman who is fulfilling her wifely duties by providing him with many children.
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mrsryan
07/17/09

In reply to Gerard On Jen: "We're Very Much In Love"
That Pepsi hair burning footage is horrible! Every show will feature it a minimum of five times and walk you through it slow.
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Sputnik_Sweetheart
07/17/09

In reply to Gerard On Jen: "We're Very Much In Love"
Didn't Dallas Austin date Christina Aguilera briefly? He was rumored to be the ex that Christina kept referring to as the "asshole" in her Rolling Stone interview and that's why none of his songs wound up on Stripped. Stay away Britney!

Also, why do I know this? Seriously, this is the reason why I can't learn another language. My brain is too clogged up with celebrity gossip. Sigh.
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keldo
07/17/09

@Sputnik_Sweetheart: I feel the same about MY ex - Cambridge Boston.
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heykoukla
07/17/09

@Sputnik_Sweetheart: Make a pact with yourself to only read gossip mags in Spanish or Italian or French or whatever. You'll be motivated to learn in no time.
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BlondeGoddess
07/17/09

@heykoukla: That's how I learned English.
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lilbobbytables
07/17/09

In reply to Gerard On Jen: "We're Very Much In Love"
I like Orlando Bloom's response. Very down to middle earth.
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pax
07/17/09

In reply to Gerard On Jen: "We're Very Much In Love"
Taylor Hanson named his kid Viggo?

Does this make him more awesome or more weird?
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AtomiClash: humanitarian misanthrope
07/17/09

@pax: If it weren't for Mr. Mortensen, this is the only Vigo I would know. Do with it what you will.
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Meglantine
07/17/09

@AtomiClash: humanitarian misanthrope: I was just google image searching for Vigo the Carpathian! I'll raise you this one. And buy you a coke.
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bluetrain84
07/17/09

In reply to Gerard On Jen: "We're Very Much In Love"
Maybe I could have my own TV show called "Overwhelmed in the City" or "Exhausted in the City." I think it would have widespread appeal.
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alouette
07/17/09

@bluetrain84: "Annoyed by strangers in the city," "Sweaty in the city" (that one is set in the summer). Or maybe "Indifferent in the city."
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pantsless economist...access RESTORED
07/17/09

@alouette: "Freakin' PO'ed at tourists who try to run me over with double wide strollers and Segways in the city."
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bluetrain84
07/17/09

@alouette: Oh yes, I like the idea of "Sweaty, Bedraggled and without AC in the City."
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zombie.nancy is a godess of fierce
07/17/09

@bluetrain84: I like 'apathy for all seasons (in the city) '
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CherryAmes_CruiseNurse
07/17/09

@bluetrain84: I actually have a show coming out this fall. I hope y'all will watch it. It's called Zaftig in the Zuburbs.
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CurtCole
07/17/09

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Maybe Robert Pattinson didn't tip because he's British. I was under the impression that they don't tip at all in England.
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smallc
07/17/09

@CurtCole: They do sometimes, depending on the place, but 10% is considered a generous tip. Or simply leaving the change (like, less than £1) otherwise.
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CurtCole
07/17/09

@smallc: Yeah, I think it is nice that they pay their servers well enough that a tip isn't necessary.
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Rare Affinity
07/17/09

@CurtCole: Oi! Don't cast aspersions on us Brits. In England we tip 10% in a restaurant for service (sometimes they ask for 12.5%) but nothing in pubs or clubs if we collect the drinks ourselves. Sometimes we might tell the bar tender to have a drink themselves.
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smallc
07/17/09

@Rare Affinity: No aspersions! You have laws to pay your servers/bartenders living wage, so they don't rely on tips. Some places in the US, servers work for $2/hr plus tips, or, I think in some states, ONLY tips.
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CurtCole
07/17/09

@Rare Affinity: Oops, my mistake. Just regurgitating what my friend Tom (from London) told me. I wouldn't put it past him to fib.
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AtomiClash: humanitarian misanthrope
07/17/09

@CurtCole: I think it probably has less to do with nationality than the ever-present group bill problem and bad math. We've all been there!
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emilyanne
07/17/09

@CurtCole: the tip is included in the bill in the UK although you can choose to tip on top of that if you want to. I know that a lot of US waiters I know have suggested that Brits are bad tippers in the US because they're not used to the idea of tipping over 12.5 per cent. This tends to engender over-tipping guilt in me which means that i am always financially screwed and shouldn't be allowed to eat out really.
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alouette
07/17/09

@AtomiClash: humanitarian misanthrope: I have a fantastic tip calculator on my phone. It evens divides it by how many people are present. Perhaps I should sent RPatz some fan mail ... about phone apps.
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Rare Affinity
07/17/09

@CurtCole:
I’m just impressed Americans can work out what 15% is in their heads when it comes to paying the bill, especially if they have had quite a bit to drink beforehand.
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emilyanne
07/17/09

@Rare Affinity: I can never work this stuff out - which is another reason for my chronic tipping issues. I always just round it up. Given that the sparkle vamp and friends left 50 bucks I bet they did the same.
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CurtCole
07/17/09

@Rare Affinity: HA! I usually tip about 25% at bars because it is easier to calculate. Then of course, I stumble to the cab and have to repeat the process when I get home and pay him.
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A Small Turnip
07/17/09

@CurtCole: I split my time between the UK and North America, and I know that sometimes when you're tired or bleary or three sheets to the wind, it's easy to forget which rules apply where. In England, a 15% tip would be extraordinarily generous.
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angelmusic11
07/17/09

@Rare Affinity: My little trick for tipping is taking the tax on the bill and doubling it. Because tax in NY is 8.65% or something like that. So times two its like 18%. But maybe that's only NY, so maybe just don't listen to me at all haha
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Rare Affinity
07/17/09

@emilyanne:In England, sometimes you have to check that service is already included in the bill. Otherwise some underhand restaurants charge you for service and then leave space on the bill for a tip, which is supposed to be just for service received. I have only once been in a situation when we did not leave a tip because the service was so dire and potentially dangerous (we asked for dairy free dishes for a friend and they were served risotto with cream). The waiter called the manager and we had an argument even though we were perfectly within our rights NOT to pay for service.
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MissMoneypenny
07/17/09

@Rare Affinity: This is an interesting story. I've noticed that in England people complain about service less than in North America. In Canada, you would have asked to speak to the manager to complain about the service, and you probably would have gotten and apology and at least some kind of discount on the meal, not just the service.

On the other hand, I find that not tipping in North America is a terrible way to express your displeasure, because servers will just assume that you are cheap.
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emilyanne
07/17/09

@Rare Affinity: that's true although pretty rare in my personal experience. Generally in London at least the bill tends to have service not included stamped across it if the service er isn't included.
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Zombie Ms. Skittles
07/17/09

@emilyanne: I am actually a chronic over-tipper. There is a reason for this! I tend to frequent a lot of dive restaurants and I figure if you're working at the Waffle House at 11 pm, you could probably use $5 on a $15 tab. I tend to get excellent service at the Waffle House as a result.
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Rare Affinity
07/17/09

@emilyanne: I think the only reason it is rare nowadays is because there was a huge campaign against it a number of years ago. I know I have been stung in the past and vowed never to go back to that establishment again.
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emilyanne
07/17/09

@Rare Affinity: oh yeah i remember that but as i said i'm a terrible guilt tipper, it's awful. I have no spine in restaurants and I get really embarrassed when people do make a fuss, even when they're right to.
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richcreamerybutter
07/17/09

@CurtCole: Personally I think it would be great if US servers were paid an actual wage and the gratuity was included in the price of the food. When I was waiting tables, there was no widespread use of the consumer internet, so I can understand past ignorance of tipping customs (even guidebooks can be inconsistent). However, in this day and age when you can access customs of each country at your fingertips in two seconds, there's just no excuse for not brushing up on local tipping before you hop on the plane...that's just laziness.
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Elizabth_Bennet
07/17/09

@Rare Affinity: Actually the standard is 20% these days (I usually just keep in mind 5 on 25 is fair and extrapolate from there) Also most servers have to tip out the bartender, bus boy, food runner, and/or host, at least in the nicer places. So really if you tip less than that they're kind of screwed (speaking from serving experience).
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starryeyedkid
07/17/09

@CurtCole: I don't tip at all, and I'm American. Perhaps this is the final reason I should move to the UK (since I've been debating going to university there).

Granted, my way of thinking is, they deserve a tip for going above and beyond, not for doing their jobs. No offense to any waiters/waitresses out there- I was one for two weeks- but if you aren't giving me incredible service, why should I give you extra money? Minimum wage here is 8.55$.
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formergr
07/17/09

@starryeyedkid: Minimum wage in a lot of places (CA excluded I think) does not extend to waitstaff. If you live in a place where it doesn't, your server is getting $2/hr for the pleasure of serving you. Not tipping isn't cool...
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Jenloveshercurves
07/17/09

@Rare Affinity: Ten percent of the bill which is easy to figure out 25.35 is 2.53 and then half of that which is a dollar and a quarter roughly. Add the two together and you get around three dollars and eighty cents and I'm always nice and just round things up to the nearest dollar which makes it an even four dollars.
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Jenloveshercurves
07/17/09

@MissMoneypenny: I was a waitress and if you want to voice your displeasure, you need to talk to the manager.
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Jenloveshercurves
07/17/09

@starryeyedkid: I was consistently paid nothing in various states for waitressing or paid less than minimum wage because it was assumed that my tips would make up for essentially not being paid. If you were to be a regular in my restaurant, I would not serve you. I did that with certain customers. I refused to take their table. Why should I serve you when I have people that are willing to tip me waiting for my service? In this instance, you get what you pay for.
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07/17/09

@starryeyedkid: You should probably just head on over to the UK, then.
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Jenloveshercurves
07/17/09

@Elizabth_Bennet: This is so true. 20% is standard because of tipping out other people. Though, I would usually give them a percentage of my tips for the night. Like, i made 40 in tips, I gave the bus boy 20% or something.
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07/17/09

@Jenloveshercurves: Too true. I waited for years and only got paid $1.80/hour. People who don't tip are complete assholes.
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CurtCole
07/17/09

@starryeyedkid: My advice would be that you should start, it is a social norm.
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starryeyedkid
07/17/09

@CurtCole: Well, everybody really does hate a non-tipper. Give me great service, I'll give you a tip. That's how it goes. Give me the service you were hired to give me, and I won't be tipping you. In my mind, that's how it goes. When I eat out with friends, they always tip, even if our server was awful. I don't get it. Well, I understand if they're getting paid 2$/hr, but I'm thinking at Red Robin or Blue C. Sushi, they aren't. If I knew beforehand my server was making next-to-nothing, I'd probably tip, but I don't know that upon entering a restaurant.
must add: according to the info looked up, WA does not allow tip to count towards minimum wage. Therefore, legally, the wait staff in restaurants I go to are, indeed, making at least 8.55$ an hour. Go homestate for having the highest minimum wage in the US.
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cstar
07/17/09

@starryeyedkid: Actually, minimum wage doesn't apply to restaurant staff. At the restaurant where I work, they make $2.38 an hour, the legal minimum in our state. Tips are not optional in the US, as you the consumer are paying the waitstaff, rather than the restaurant.

This sums it up well:
http://dinersjournal.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/05/ticked-about-tipping/
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Hiroine Protagonist
09/20/09

@cstar: From my cursory googling it looks like servers do make minimum in WA.
People who work at McDonald's make minimum wage. Really no difference between their skill sets (which are still difficult) and a fine dining server? You should just confine yourself to the drive-thru.
Still, why not just eat at home if you can't afford to tip? If you are fundamentally opposed to it you should tell your server before you order. It always amazes me that people can be so stingy at restaurants and trot out the most ridiculous conditionsw before a 15% tip. Extraordinary service? What, like deliver your kid between courses? Serving and restaurant work are honourable careers. The above attitude contributes to the absolute paucity of a respected service culture. And no offense - but have you ever worked for minimum wage? The LEAST amount of money your employer can pay you by law? Try to live off it as an adult. I dare you. So lighten the fuck up and stay home to eat - or yeah, move to the UK.
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