Disagree. I have a vagina, Eve had a vagina, therefore I'm responsible for Original Sin. I say that morality is easiest interpreted by anatomy. #fakehymen
Upmarket brothels in 18th Century London were notorious for selling the rejuvenated maidenhead of the latest young beauty, fresh from the country, to as many gullible men as possible before the latter cottoned on that the woman in question was not a virgin and therefore did not merit the special financial premium attached to an unbroken hymen. #fakehymen
@Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny.: Hell, I was born in the US and my first boyfriend accused me of lying when I didn't bleed our first time (the best part was that the reason I didn't was he had ALREADY broken it when we were fooling around one night but he was drunk and apparently didn't remember/notice) #fakehymen
@colormeroutine: My friend's ex boyfriend accused her of the same thing and then used that as justification for emotionally shaming her and referring to her as a "whore." All in all, I'm not so sure that American culture has moved that far from associating morality with an in-place hymen. #fakehymen
@Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny.: I didn't bleed either. I think it was because there was a ton of foreplay and I was really, ahem, ready for it. Kinda makes you wonder. Do they (meaning the hymen fetishists) INTEND for it to suck for the virginal woman, since they're so intent on having her bleed? God forbid she enjoy it and not have to hemorrhage. #fakehymen
@Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny.: Neither did I. Whether this was from years of prior tampon use, falling on the beam in gymnastics a few times or simply being born without one, there was no blood at my deflowering. I don't think that bleeding is as common as people think it is, although obviously there are women who do. It's just such a bizarre standard to measure something by, never mind the absurdity of fetishizing virginity in the first place. #fakehymen
@heliotrollop: It's a good thing the USPS isn't in charge of shipping this. It would be really awkward to have to explain to your husband that you actually lost your virginity in a padded envelope between China and your hometown. #fakehymen
I'm not sure what I think. At first glance, I was thinking, "Oh! That wasn't what I was expecting - it's kinda nice to see a Muslim woman in the media who isn't being depicted as a war/domestic violence/rape/brainwashing victim, and treated like any other woman."
Then I thought... wait, I don't like how women are treated in general. :/
Factual inaccuracies aside, I don't know if Muslims would appreciate the ad. I can't say one way or the other, but I imagine strict Muslims might not think it's so great.
The only thing I can think while watching this is how gracefully she moves through the piece. The last time I tried to put on stockings and garters, it looked like I was doing the chicken dance. #lingeriesaudi
I think that is is about as positive as an advertisement for lingerie addressing non-western women could be. In fact, I think its a more sophisticated than the lingerie ads produced here in the US. The main point of the commercial seems to be that the desire to be sexy and sexual knows no cultural bounds. This, I agree with. But I don't know if I would go so far as to consider it empowering JUST because it lacks the male gaze and is about a woman wearing lingerie that no one will see.
Lingerie is about being seen, whether it is seen or not, and the thrill of wearing sexy undergarments is the excitement you get knowing that if someone DID happen to see, they would see something really spectacular. (I was a pro at this in high school. I'd wear garters and all that shit on dates and then make sure at some point to bend over or flash some thigh and then pretend to be completely unaware that I had offered a glimpse.) And I'm not making a value judgement at all or trying to say that sexy-underpants can't make a woman FEEL empowered, but the power come from the knowledge that she is wearing something that is sexy precisely because it has been deemed sexy by the male gaze. There doesn't need to be a male present to illustrate that.
And I like that it is expressing the idea that women, even muslim women (shock!) have a legitimate sexuality to be expressed. But in the end it is an advertisement and is just as dependent on the influence of the male gaze as a victoria's secret ad. It may be a little more sophisticated, but its stemming from the same place. #lingeriesaudi
This ad makes me uncomfortable because I feel like it's just using a religion to make a clever commercial and it's a commercial that said religion would be really against. #lingeriesaudi
There's a lot going on here, but I want to point out on visual annoyance: she goes from the shower/makeup with a towel wrapped around her supposedly damp hair and when she takes it off *poof* sexylicious curls! #lingeriesaudi
I think the problem isn't so much in the commercial itself (which I must admit is incredibly hot) but the fact that it's for a company called"dangerous liaisons." I think the idea of a forbidden affair ads meaning to the commercial that is really exploitative, capitalizing on the exotic nature of the mysterious veil. #lingeriesaudi
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Then I thought... wait, I don't like how women are treated in general. :/
Factual inaccuracies aside, I don't know if Muslims would appreciate the ad. I can't say one way or the other, but I imagine strict Muslims might not think it's so great.
I guess I really don't know. #lingeriesaudi
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Lingerie is about being seen, whether it is seen or not, and the thrill of wearing sexy undergarments is the excitement you get knowing that if someone DID happen to see, they would see something really spectacular. (I was a pro at this in high school. I'd wear garters and all that shit on dates and then make sure at some point to bend over or flash some thigh and then pretend to be completely unaware that I had offered a glimpse.) And I'm not making a value judgement at all or trying to say that sexy-underpants can't make a woman FEEL empowered, but the power come from the knowledge that she is wearing something that is sexy precisely because it has been deemed sexy by the male gaze. There doesn't need to be a male present to illustrate that.
And I like that it is expressing the idea that women, even muslim women (shock!) have a legitimate sexuality to be expressed. But in the end it is an advertisement and is just as dependent on the influence of the male gaze as a victoria's secret ad. It may be a little more sophisticated, but its stemming from the same place. #lingeriesaudi
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