Now I'm super fascinated by this case, but it seems like there are still a lot of unanswered questions and issues, including conflicting wtiness testimony and posible police misconduct/involvement?: [www.helpfindthemissing.org]
OMG, make this into a procedural crime drama, like NOW! I LOVE THEM! The Mentalist, Castle, Bones, L&O SVU, and hey even Life counts! I watch them all!!!
@mepo - Robert Cornhole invented it: It's not the best but I liked Inspector Lynley Mysteries. Because he is pretty. I don't require a lot from my television detectives.
My Mom has read every Agatha Christie book and watched every crime series ever made in the US and UK (seriously, I can list them). She's either going to solve a crime or kill one of us and get away with it. I better go apologise for my messy room as a teen and for her spending countless hours searching for that A La Carte Kitchen that Christmas.
im currently watching veronica mars (AGAIN) and now i have an even stronger desire to become an amateur detective. i trace it all back to my obsession with nancy drew when i was younger.
@erinoherin: ZOMG! Nancy Drew and Veeronica Mars RULE. I couldn't get enough Nancy Drew mysteries growing up & nowadays, I frequently rewatch episodes of Mars Investigations.
Who hears about a dead body and thinks, "gee, I'd like to get a look of that myself"? I mean, good for her for solving the case, but what an odd compulsion she had.
@morethanrain: Seriously. I love shows like Bones, but the scary images are safely contained in a little box on my entertainment center. I don't want to get up close and personal with real-world depravity.
@JerkoftheMonth: I am late to this party, but that is fascinating! I love murder mysteries. I'm in the process of rereading all of Martha Grimes' Richard Jury novels right now.
@all: Thanks, you guys! Unfortunately, I'm not studying exclusively women crime writers, which I would like to do at some point. Thesis is on LA/S. CA-based crime fiction; historio-cultural examination of hard-boiledness developing in S. CA 1920-present day. Thanks for your interest! Kisses to my fellow crime lovers.
that would be my dream PHD. But it would all have to be on Dame Agatha. If this was one of her books, this lady would be the 2nd body in many cases. @JerkoftheMonth: Mmm PHD in crime writing thanks for new dream.
The more I see things like this, the more it occurs to me that many people have one of two ways of viewing religion: a blanket "it's their faith and we have to respect it" or a reductive "all religion is cultish bullshit." And I think it kind of sucks that joyous modes of spiritual expression like Sufism get written off as cults while others are allowed to harm innocent people in the name of religion.
The Mormons spent millions on Prop 8, to ensure gay couples can't marry - yet they do NOTHING for the victims of the FLDS. A woman trying to find shelter with 10 kids isn't going to have an easy time of it. Then there are the boys who get thrown out of the cult - yet the Mormons, from whom the FLDS sprang, don't lift a finger.
I would also point out that the states where polygamy flourishes do nothing. John McCain and the state of Arizona have turned their backs on those women and children. Utah, Texas - all turn a blind eye to it. After all - it's only women and children. The men of the cult have built a huge financial empire. Money = power=above the law.
The legitimate Mormon church begrudgingly agreed to no longer engage in polygamy so Utah could become a state and they could get the benefits of statehood. Ironically its the polygamists who continue to take the most financial rewards: welfare, health care, etc. as a result of that.
Child abuse is child abuse whether you use religion, or any other obstacle as a decoy to distract from what is plain and simple sexual abuse. From the begining I had no pity for the mothers, and this further justifies my lack of pity for these mothers.
@angryblackgurl: I think it's more complicated than that. The mothers were immersed in this culture while being isolated from any real knowledge of the outside world. Whether or not they were equipped to make better decisions for their children is a very murky subject.
@theysaidwhat: repeating what squidproquo said (below)....the mothers were most likely the same young girls 10 years ago. Where do you draw the line where a woman/girl brought up in these conditions should start being blamed? When she's 13 after her first child? Some of these girls were married at 12, potentially having a kid soon after. That means at 24, her daughter may be forced to marry. It'll take a lot more than a young 24 year old woman (married to a much older man) to struggle with the situation.
@theysaidwhat: The murky subject is what bothers me, I am talking just plain common sense. I have no hate against their religious beliefs, but a mothers job is to protect her child. This is a loss for everyone involved!!!
@O-RLY: @angryblackgurl: Yes, I get that. If this is the only life you've ever known and what was used to excuse the abuse you suffered and the only remedy available for it, then how could you make a different decision for your own children. I'm with you there.
It's devastating to see how such abuse passes from one generation to the next.
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Aaand that's why I'm doing a PhD on crime fiction.
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It's devastating to see how such abuse passes from one generation to the next.