Wait- is she asserting that this is "patriarchal and heteronormative" or is she just quoting someone who said it?
I think there's a weird tension, in American discussions of the middle east, between feminism and Islamophobia. I'm glad to hear somebody talking about it-- I came up with this while writing a research paper last semester and have kept my eyes open for further reading ever since.
@HannahBethD: That's a really broad assumption you're making. Not everyone thinks that. I'm just not really sure what you mean. I think I maybe taking this a little too hard because I'm Muslim...
@sarah0220: I got the gist from the quoted material that the writer (not Sadie) thought all the women were buying lingerie for patriarchal reasons.
I don't liek the assumption that all Muslim women (and not everyone makes this assumption, but it seems to be the overarching theme of almost every story I read about Muslim women) that every Muslim marriage is all horrible patriarchal cruelty all the time.
I'm not saying I think that. I;m sorry if I wasn't clear.
@HannahBethD: I get what you're saying, and I completely agree.
I think, though, that most of these assumptions about Muslims, not even just about marriage but about anything, come from major misunderstandings that exist about Islam and the Middle East and Muslim culture.
@HannahBethD: Gotchya. I just wasn't sure what point you were trying to make but I understand now. Thanks for clarifying :)
Also, I hope I didn't come off brash, it was one of those comments where you write exactly what you're thinking at that exact second and hit submit before you can smooth the edges.
There's a danger to Westernizing too much of the Middle East, but if "sexy" turns into "confident" like we've seen over here, I can't imagine that wouldn't be a bad thing.
The patriarchy is sickening. I say that as a dude.
@Pilgrimsoul: Jez won't let me reply to anyone today.
It was innocent enough - I was about 8 or 9 and trying to, I dunno, punch out the cutouts in a Fruit Rollup using only my face, and I managed to get it stuck pretty inextricably in my hair. Mom did her best, but scissors ultimately had to be involved.
Has anyone heard the comedian from the blue collar comedy tour do his bit on edible underwear? The part about biscuits & gravy flavor made me literally wet my (inedible) underwear!
How long does this take to eat? Is it made of fruit roll-up stuff because they're quite chewy! What if my manfriend gnawed on the wrong bit and hurt me?
Or are they soluble and dissolve when you lick them? In that case where do you start/stop licking? I can imagine that would get boring and messy.
Maybe they are like sweets on a string, but then they could get caught in your pubes and rip one out.
Ack! All of these options sound terrible! I think I was right to always keep food and sexy time separate.
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I think there's a weird tension, in American discussions of the middle east, between feminism and Islamophobia. I'm glad to hear somebody talking about it-- I came up with this while writing a research paper last semester and have kept my eyes open for further reading ever since.
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Perhaps some Muslim men really do love their wives? Perhaps not every Muslim is an extremist?
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I don't liek the assumption that all Muslim women (and not everyone makes this assumption, but it seems to be the overarching theme of almost every story I read about Muslim women) that every Muslim marriage is all horrible patriarchal cruelty all the time.
I'm not saying I think that. I;m sorry if I wasn't clear.
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I think, though, that most of these assumptions about Muslims, not even just about marriage but about anything, come from major misunderstandings that exist about Islam and the Middle East and Muslim culture.
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Also, I hope I didn't come off brash, it was one of those comments where you write exactly what you're thinking at that exact second and hit submit before you can smooth the edges.
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The patriarchy is sickening. I say that as a dude.
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@MIXED: Deadspin darling.
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ALSO, WHY CAN'T WE REPLY? IS IT B/C WE HANG OUT ON DEADSPIN SOMETIMES?
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It was innocent enough - I was about 8 or 9 and trying to, I dunno, punch out the cutouts in a Fruit Rollup using only my face, and I managed to get it stuck pretty inextricably in my hair. Mom did her best, but scissors ultimately had to be involved.
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Or are they soluble and dissolve when you lick them? In that case where do you start/stop licking? I can imagine that would get boring and messy.
Maybe they are like sweets on a string, but then they could get caught in your pubes and rip one out.
Ack! All of these options sound terrible! I think I was right to always keep food and sexy time separate.
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That stuff sticks in hair really bad.
No thanks.
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