I read about this on the NYT at the beginning of the summer, and then promptly forgot about it, so thanks for writing about it here.
I'm very active in my college's volunteer organization, and it's really hard to get people to care enough to sacrifice even an hour a week to help others. We need all the help we can get. Shame on you, Vatican!
The Church failing to abide by the teachings of Jesus is hardly new, though. I'm not pointing out anything new, but the Pope lives in crazy splendor. Consistency aside, I'm just not clear on why anyone would try to interfere with people who have devoted their lives to helping others. Seriously, trying to stop women who have sacrificed personal gain in order to alleviate the suffering of others. Religious or not, that just makes you a terrible human being.
@Laulau: I haven't had much contact with nuns in my life, but I know tons of people who have. Yeah, anecdotal evidence but whatever: I heard one saying "I wish she would die already and stop making so much noise" about a terminal patient in the next bed (the patient happened to be my grandmother). They put kids to clean and didn't feed them until they considered they have earned it. I could go on for hours because I live in a Catholic country where state/church separation is a joke (it's a joke now, and it was something you might go to jail or get killed for mentioning when my parents were going to school/college), and where it's nearly impossible study in a residence that's not run by nuns. So, yeah, they feed the poor, yay for them. Many other people do good actions and none of them expect to be shielded from all critic for it.
EDIT: I'm not referring to the Vatican, I'm referring to your affirmation that it takes a horrible person to criticise them.
I'm beginning to think the current Pope is a secret atheist and is trying to take down Catholicism from the inside "Hmmm, let's see: Pope JP2 was known for making Catholicism more inclusive... so what if we put all the stuff about converting the Jews back into the mass, stop having dialogue with Jews and Muslims, put emphasis on the whole birth control and sex thing again, and, oh yeah! Let's try to get the nuns to hate us, too!"
@LaComtesse: its so awful. and they're going after a body of women that commits itself to community outreach, to justice for the poor, to doing the real grunt work of living out the supposed mission of the Catholic church.
@LaComtesse: If this keeps up, I give it 10 years, 20 tops before the number of people entering the priesthood or nunneries is so low the Pope is begging Catholics for their first born children.
It's practically a requirement now... to join the GOP, you have to have family values and you have to publicly forsake those values in an extramarital affair. Extra points and slight seniority for gross factor.
@Experiment626: Yeah. The affairs on their own are, by the standards of the GOP, pretty boring. But when you add in the inadvertent confession into the live mike, the... oh god forgive me, the dripping, and the eyepatch panties... I think Duvall qualifies as a legitimate contender for the Conservative Douche-Hypocrite Cup.
@wtfox?!: The dripping is the part that both grossed me out and pissed me off, because unprotected cheating seems a billion times worse than if he'd taken the remotest precaution against infecting his wife with STIs.
1) His comments created some truly grody mental images. The reviled term "making love" is the same one my mom used when I was little and walked in on her and my dad. (I had run from the room crying.)
2) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! HAHA YOU FUCKING HYPOCRITE!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
I have noticed a trend in all the responses I've read from other Republican politicians: they all state that what he said was inappropriate. No, ladies and gentlemen, what he DID was inappropriate. Talking about it was just stupid.
Can you all imagine the scene around the office at KCAL before they ran this? I know how it is around my place when one of us comes across something juicy, and we don't even have a media venue to broadcast it.
@mipsy6: as a liberal in California, this is the best freaking news I've had all day! Any blow against the anti-gay rights brigade is a good day in my book.
Man, kind of makes you wish they used this sort of get-up-and-go investigative journalism on something with, you know, actual importance. But I'm all for hypocrites getting schooled for scandals.
@wilmawonker: At the very least he is not going to subject the good people of California to a long goodbye.
That said, I just read that he was a supporter of Prop 8 and uses "marriage" to describe marriage between two people of the same gender. "Marriage," indeed, sir!
So a republican and energy lobbyist are in bed together and we are just finding out about it....where's the scandal? This happens everyday here in D.C. ( Maybe not quite so literally, but still. )
@SomeAuthorGirl: Agreed. TPM said that his first response was I thought it was a "private conversation." This was all before he realized it was over and he had no choice but to resign.
@WashingMyHair: God, I am a crappy mom... can't wait to put my little one to bed so I can enjoy this in all its glory.
I work/exist in the DC arena also - but most of the people I know who fuck around no more or no less than the average person happen to not do it while being recorded. Or, so they hope! ;)
@WashingMyHair: Seriously! It's not that he was boning two women who weren't his wife, or even that he was then sharing the explicit details with his buddy! The thing he has to apologize for is inflicting it on the rest of us, which he didn't mean to do. Sorry y'all, I only meant for my bros to know about the eyepatch panties and the spanking.
Oh Kate, this is gorgeous. Later on I need to follow the links to see if they disclose it all. What is shown in the news report is magnificent in its ugly -- spanking! lobbyists!
I think I just fainted.
And allow me to send a sincere hug to any Jezzies that live in this guy's district.
The only reason I'm not hunting it down right now is that my six year old is sitting next to me -- I need to wait till she goes to bed. Family values, indeed!
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I'm very active in my college's volunteer organization, and it's really hard to get people to care enough to sacrifice even an hour a week to help others. We need all the help we can get. Shame on you, Vatican!
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EDIT: I'm not referring to the Vatican, I'm referring to your affirmation that it takes a horrible person to criticise them.
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2) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! HAHA YOU FUCKING HYPOCRITE!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
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That said, I just read that he was a supporter of Prop 8 and uses "marriage" to describe marriage between two people of the same gender. "Marriage," indeed, sir!
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I love that this guy did this to a co-Assemblyperson whilst not turning his mic off. Deserves every iota of scorn he gets.
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I work/exist in the DC arena also - but most of the people I know who fuck around no more or no less than the average person happen to not do it while being recorded. Or, so they hope! ;)
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I think I just fainted.
And allow me to send a sincere hug to any Jezzies that live in this guy's district.
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The only reason I'm not hunting it down right now is that my six year old is sitting next to me -- I need to wait till she goes to bed. Family values, indeed!
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One thing that occurs to me is that I would NEVER have this sort of personal conversation with a coworker. I mean, wow. Just, wow!
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