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    Image of bowleserised bowleserised
    09/16/09

    In reply to Missing Persons
    It also says that they might not have wanted help.

    The UK debate seems to be polarised by Laura Agustin ("it's all women with free agency, coming here to work by choice") and the Poppy Project ("they're all trafficked and abused"). Sex workers, and especially immigrant sex workers, just aren't a homogeneous population.
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    Image of sanibelly sanibelly
    09/16/09

    @bowleserised: So they're not trafficked at all? I thought that trafficked meant kidnapped and forced into the sex trade.
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    09/16/09

    @sanibelly: That's not what I said. They're not ALL trafficked. Some of the women "liberated" by Operation Pentameter weren't trafficked. Some of them were.

    I was presenting two sides of the UK debate. Here's a review of Agustin's book: [www.newstatesman.com]

    And here's the Poppy Project:
    [www.eaves4women.co.uk]

    There have been problems in the UK with campaigners claiming that most of the women in the UK sex trade are trafficked, when what they mean is that 75% of the women working in London are from overseas. Which doesn't necessarily mean trafficked. And it's just London, not the UK (countrywide, working girls are more likely to be British).
    But the statistics are always problematic with sex work. And yes, women do get kidnapped and forced into sex work:
    [www.metro.co.uk]

    Some of the women kidnapped and forced into sex work are even British.
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    Image of sanibelly sanibelly
    09/16/09

    @bowleserised: Thank you for the clarification. I know that's not what you said, which is why I asked that question. And thank you for admitting, however begrudgingly, that there are women who are forced into sex work. I know we like to think it's all those poor women who innocently chose sex work, but can we please put some urgency into locating and helping (and stopping, in the first place) women who are forced into this against their will? I can't think of anything more disgusting or horrifying and my heart goes out to those women who we shrug our shoulders at.
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    09/16/09

    @sanibelly: I didn't admit it "begrudgingly" at all. That "slaughterhouse" case is horrific.
    I've been working on and off for research on the subject for months now, using a variety of sources and talking to a lot of people involved. I just finished reading an account of one British woman's experience of being trafficked into Amsterdam...
    BUT the police are also using things like Pentameter against women who have made the choice to do sex work: [www.prostitutescollective.net]
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    09/01/09

    In reply to Combating Sex Trafficking, With Or Without Ashton Kutcher's Help
    I was in Cambodia (Siam Reap) this summer for about two days. I knew that it had not recovered... well... from the genocide, and I know enough about how the government functions to know that what I saw was barely the tip of the iceberg.

    This is great. Really, really great. Sex tourism is a painful, awful thing, and any opportunity to try to give more options to anyone is good. Especially if they are sustainable and affordable.
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    Image of UrbanAchiever UrbanAchiever
    09/01/09

    In reply to Combating Sex Trafficking, With Or Without Ashton Kutcher's Help
    These women are really, really inspiring.
    Nicholas Kristof over at the NYT has been writing articles on this topic for some time now - heartwrenching stuff. Reading about Alissa and Diana's work is a great antidote.
    Link to Kristof's archives:
    [topics.nytimes.com]
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    Image of SarahMC SarahMC
    09/01/09

    In reply to Combating Sex Trafficking, With Or Without Ashton Kutcher's Help
    Wow. I applaud you. Not sure what else to say.
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    Image of Rare Affinity Rare Affinity
    09/01/09

    In reply to Combating Sex Trafficking, With Or Without Ashton Kutcher's Help
    Here is a web site for the Body Shop for any UK Jezzies inspired to find out how they can help in the campaign.
    [www.thebodyshop.co.uk]
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    09/01/09

    In reply to Combating Sex Trafficking, With Or Without Ashton Kutcher's Help
    One of the things that strikes me about this interview, is these are women who are not afraid to speak honestly and clearly about all they've accomplished. No false modesty, no pretending what they've done is no big deal. They own their awesomeness, which only increases their awesomeness to me.
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    Image of Tara Incognita Tara Incognita
    09/01/09

    In reply to Combating Sex Trafficking, With Or Without Ashton Kutcher's Help
    You ladies are badasses. Keep up the good work!
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    09/01/09

    In reply to Combating Sex Trafficking, With Or Without Ashton Kutcher's Help
    Good. Something to link to when some American douche explains that his sex tourism is saving some poor young girl who has no other way to support herself.

    Also, just bought a bag off the site! That's the trick – make it easy as heck to donate.
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    Image of IvyArbor IvyArbor
    09/01/09

    @HeatherNumber1: Honest question: do you really encounter enough people who've made this argument?
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    09/01/09

    @IvyArbor: I admit, I wondered as well.
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    Image of Pizza!Pizza!Pizza! Pizza!Pizza!Pizza!
    09/01/09

    @IvyArbor: Oh lord yes, though I'll admit most are arguing behind the veil of internet anonymity. It's a bit like people who support slave labor, saying otherwise the workers would be forced into sexual slavery... as if a third option not involving any kind of slavery would be possible.
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    Image of gangey gangey
    09/01/09

    @IvyArbor: I've heard it as well. My sister is passionate about this cause and has been working to help, and was written up in the local paper for her efforts. Of course, some pedophile comments "But they make enough money to support like EVERYBODY THEY KNOW, and the one I went to said she thought it was a great opportunity!" I didn't trust myself to reply without burning the internets down with my white-hot rage, but luckily some other people gave him the beatdown immediately.
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    Image of LaComtesse LaComtesse
    09/01/09

    In reply to Combating Sex Trafficking, With Or Without Ashton Kutcher's Help
    Absolutely amazing. I was JUST talking to co-workers about trafficking during lunch. This is an INCREDIBLE organization and good on you Alissa and Diana!
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    Image of NefariousNewt NefariousNewt
    08/20/09

    In reply to Heavy Traffic
    One word: scary.
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    Image of CurtCole CurtCole
    08/20/09

    In reply to Heavy Traffic
    That is a disturbing image, but an appropriately disturbing one.
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    Image of Skellatrix Skellatrix
    08/20/09

    In reply to Heavy Traffic
    What does it say about me, and the world that I am used to, that I first thought this was an extremely offensive fashion ad?
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    Image of feather_spin feather_spin
    08/20/09

    @Skellatrix: It could definitely be an "edgy" perfume ad or something. Sad, sad world we live in.
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    Image of t-yo3 t-yo3
    08/20/09

    @Skellatrix: I thought the same. Sad, indeed.
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    Image of queenieinmanhattan queenieinmanhattan
    08/20/09

    @Skellatrix: I thought EXACTLY the same thing. I am horrified.
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    Image of Eleanor Ramilly Eleanor Ramilly
    08/20/09


    @Skellatrix: Gee, why would you think that?
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    08/20/09


    .
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    Image of sybann sybann
    08/20/09

    @Skellatrix: Now I thought it was a movie - same diff though.
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    Image of irv irv
    06/16/09

    In reply to Throw The Book At 'Em
    Pls, a link to the report?
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    Image of SunburnedCounsel SunburnedCounsel
    06/16/09

    @irv: [www.state.gov]
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    Image of ellaesther ellaesther
    06/16/09

    In reply to Throw The Book At 'Em
    I hate to correct Getty again, but correct I must: It's not "a modern day form of slavery" -- it's slavery, plain and simple. No caveats, no modifiers. Slavery.


    FIXED.

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    Image of CrankyOldBroad CrankyOldBroad
    06/16/09

    In reply to Throw The Book At 'Em
    I love Hillary for making me physically duck even before enlarging this photo. That, my friends, is true bish plz.
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