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    On The Shelf: Hillary Vs. Sarah • Study: Police Ignore Rape Claims If Victim Is Drunk

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    Image of girlarchaeologist girlarchaeologist
    11/26/09

    In reply to On The Shelf: Hillary Vs. Sarah • Study: Police Ignore Rape Claims If Victim Is Drunk
    I can provide anecdotal evidence to back up the driving in the snow poll. Trucks blow past me on a regular basis. I feel like I should have a sign on my car:"I'm sorry, I'm from Vancouver".
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    Image of LadyFabulous LadyFabulous
    11/26/09

    @girlarchaeologist: Ugh! I hate when they do that! I have come THISCLOSE to dying on the Pattullo at least a dozen times by trucks that are determined to drive in the inside lane (trucks that are a bazillion times bigger than my little Toyota.)
    But at least the snow isn't usually a huge problem here (except last year!)
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    Image of BytheSea BytheSea
    11/25/09

    In reply to On The Shelf: Hillary Vs. Sarah • Study: Police Ignore Rape Claims If Victim Is Drunk
    Advance doesn't matter. If your book sells over the advance, then you're paid royalties for the overage.

    However, for the normal author, if your book doesn't make the advance you're in trouble. Usually, it means you'll never publish again and your name is mud. However, some authors have been asked to pay back the advance. Sarah Palin? Not a chance.

    A large advance that the sales don't meet just means that Palin cost her publishing company more money than any publishing company can afford to lose. Because of her, (depending on the company), a few thousand hopeful new authors, and a few thousand more established authors, won't see their books published this year, or ever. In publishing, it's never a bad thing to offer or take a smaller advance if your book is going to sell well. Unless you're JK Rowling, you don't take the large advance.
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    Edited by BytheSea at 11/25/09 11:36 PM BytheSea was starred BytheSea was unstarred
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    11/26/09

    @BytheSea: The majority of these 'big' advances don't earn out, and I've never heard of anyone being asked to 'return' their advance. If you have names and/or links to articles, I'd like to see them, because even liars like James Frey and plagarists like a particular young YA author and others have kept their large paycheck.

    Like you, I find the fact these obscene advances go to celebrities or public figures who, ironically, don't write their own books anyway. The publishing industry is whining 'recession' and good writers with fabulous books can't make a living, yet they can still manage to drum up millions for ex-porn stars or beauty pagaent queens. Then they blame the midlist author for their financial ruin - really?
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    11/26/09

    @conspicuouschick: I've never heard of anyone being asked to 'return' their advance

    I heard stories from agents and editors who were guest speakers at my grad school. They couldn't name names. They said it was rare, but has happened when the publishers banked big on something like a memoir that turned out to be fake and the public actually cared (as opposed to the discredited memoirs people still buy).

    Also, some prolific mystery author (bitterest man on the planet) who came to speak also told a story of a author with pathological narcissism issues who could tell a good summery and get a good advance up front before he wrote the book, but never delivered. He was sued after he promised too many unwritten books. But again, rare case.

    Anyway, publishers are desperate for the next JK to save their business but it's the midlist that's their bread and butter. But they routinely screw them over on their third or fourth book if they don't continue to outsell themselves. No one can keep that up. It's like asking a pro athelete to get a better and better average every year - even the best have good years and bad years. But a lot of midlisters get dropped after a few books b/c they don't turn into runaway hits.
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    11/25/09

    In reply to On The Shelf: Hillary Vs. Sarah • Study: Police Ignore Rape Claims If Victim Is Drunk
    And now you know why the UK has around a 6% rape conviction rate on a good year...the police only worry about doing something wrong when it might affect a man, not when it might traumatise or endanger a woman.
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    Image of lucylooo lucylooo
    11/25/09

    In reply to On The Shelf: Hillary Vs. Sarah • Study: Police Ignore Rape Claims If Victim Is Drunk
    Slow down in bad weather? I can't count the number of times I"ve had some jackass blow by me doing 140 on the 401 in near-whiteout conditions. It's seriously making me want to start up my own specialized line of bumper stickers, which includes the classic "90% Of Doctors Say Your Penis Won't Shrink If You Use Your Turn Signal" and "You're Driving A Buick Not Eight Tiny Reindeer In This Blizzard, Genius, So Slow The F**k Down."
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    Image of JoStockton JoStockton
    11/25/09

    @lucylooo: Heh. Over here on the Wet Coast, we have the opposite problem. The entire f*cking city STOPS if there is a cm of snow on the ground. Last Christmas, we had skytrains derailing because we don't build anything for snow.

    I'd be curious to know if they actually sampled all of Canada... because if they did, I'm fairly sure that the 14% that do slow down in snow are all over here.
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    11/26/09

    @JoStockton: Last year I found out that Surrey only has 3 plows. 3!!! But it's because (apparently) we don't get as much snow as we did last year.
    But srsly, where is the Plow King when you need him?
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    Image of curiousgeorgiana curiousgeorgiana
    11/25/09

    In reply to On The Shelf: Hillary Vs. Sarah • Study: Police Ignore Rape Claims If Victim Is Drunk
    In addition to being worthy of a larger advance, Secretary Clinton's book was actually readable.
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    11/25/09

    @curiousgeorgiana: Yes. Clinton is so much more articulate. Her education shows. I think it's unfortunate that, when her book came out, people used her husband's affairs against her. As if it were somehow her own fault, and thus she wasn't worthy of telling a memoir.

    PM-ed you, btw.
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    Image of HillGirl HillGirl
    11/25/09

    @curiousgeorgiana: And she probably actually wrote it.
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    11/25/09

    @deeemer: (PM back at you)
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    11/25/09

    @curiousgeorgiana: And people actually paid, you know, full price for it. Unlike Ms. Sarah and her $4.99 NewsMax giveaway.
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    Image of phantom lady phantom lady
    11/25/09

    In reply to On The Shelf: Hillary Vs. Sarah • Study: Police Ignore Rape Claims If Victim Is Drunk
    soooooo.... being born a girl is a side effect?
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    Image of SweetIo SweetIo
    11/25/09

    @phantom lady: I will be using ICSI, and I can dig this "side effect."
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    Image of Miss Scarlett Miss Scarlett
    11/25/09

    In reply to On The Shelf: Hillary Vs. Sarah • Study: Police Ignore Rape Claims If Victim Is Drunk
    I like that raising the chance of having a girl is known as a "side effect". Really no one would ever know they are having a girl vs. boy because of medication.
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    Image of MargaretMoony MargaretMoony
    11/25/09

    In reply to On The Shelf: Hillary Vs. Sarah • Study: Police Ignore Rape Claims If Victim Is Drunk
    God, stories about people who don't know they're pregnant until they give birth terrify me! I mean, they made a whole tv series about it so it could happen to me.
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    Image of EndangeredRed EndangeredRed
    11/25/09

    @MargaretMoony: Right? As if I wasn't already paranoid enough (says the girl who took a pregnancy test when she was still a virgin)? And then on top of not wanting to be pregnant and unaware, I also start worrying about deforming it with all the wine I drink. Poor little phantom baby.
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    Image of Sarah Dove Sarah Dove
    11/25/09

    @MargaretMoony: It might be happening... NOW!
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    Image of MargaretMoony MargaretMoony
    11/26/09

    @EndangeredRed: Me too!

    #tips
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    Image of MargaretMoony MargaretMoony
    11/26/09

    @Sarah Dove: Hopefully not in my uterus.

    #tips
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    Image of Sarah Dove Sarah Dove
    11/27/09

    @MargaretMoony: Well, if it happens inside your body but OUTSIDE your uterus, you have a whole new set of problems!
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    Image of MargaretMoony MargaretMoony
    11/27/09

    @Sarah Dove: Ooooh, that actually just happened to the wife of a professor at my school. There was a tear in her uterus and the fetus floated into her intestines.
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    Image of Sarah Dove Sarah Dove
    11/30/09

    @MargaretMoony: Level of my maturity: I instantly thought AARGH POO BABY.
    I'm guessing she lost the pregnancy? Will she be okay? What a rotten thing to happen.
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    Image of MargaretMoony MargaretMoony
    11/30/09

    @Sarah Dove: Yeah, it was a miscarriage/stillbirth. She's okay but had to be in hospital for a long time.
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    Image of clevernamehere clevernamehere
    11/25/09

    In reply to On The Shelf: Hillary Vs. Sarah • Study: Police Ignore Rape Claims If Victim Is Drunk
    The Sacred Heart assault case is interesting. I saw an AP piece on it where they had assumed it was a gang rape and then had to re-edit when the found out what they are actually accused of is fondly her against her will while she had consensual sex with someone else.

    I'm kind of impressed the woman pressed charges, I think a lot of women would have felt they couldn't because there was no non-consensual penetration.
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    11/25/09

    In reply to On The Shelf: Hillary Vs. Sarah • Study: Police Ignore Rape Claims If Victim Is Drunk
    "I wish I could be more artful in the way I say things." so you're actually praising yourself for your honesty?
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    11/25/09

    @Ailatan: Well, someone has to do it.
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    11/25/09

    @clockwise contemplates going counter: it seems she's better at this "artful" business than she gives herself credit.
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    Image of bowleserised bowleserised
    09/16/09

    In reply to Missing Persons
    It also says that they might not have wanted help.

    The UK debate seems to be polarised by Laura Agustin ("it's all women with free agency, coming here to work by choice") and the Poppy Project ("they're all trafficked and abused"). Sex workers, and especially immigrant sex workers, just aren't a homogeneous population.
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    09/16/09

    @bowleserised: So they're not trafficked at all? I thought that trafficked meant kidnapped and forced into the sex trade.
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    09/16/09

    @sanibelly: That's not what I said. They're not ALL trafficked. Some of the women "liberated" by Operation Pentameter weren't trafficked. Some of them were.

    I was presenting two sides of the UK debate. Here's a review of Agustin's book: [www.newstatesman.com]

    And here's the Poppy Project:
    [www.eaves4women.co.uk]

    There have been problems in the UK with campaigners claiming that most of the women in the UK sex trade are trafficked, when what they mean is that 75% of the women working in London are from overseas. Which doesn't necessarily mean trafficked. And it's just London, not the UK (countrywide, working girls are more likely to be British).
    But the statistics are always problematic with sex work. And yes, women do get kidnapped and forced into sex work:
    [www.metro.co.uk]

    Some of the women kidnapped and forced into sex work are even British.
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    Image of sanibelly sanibelly
    09/16/09

    @bowleserised: Thank you for the clarification. I know that's not what you said, which is why I asked that question. And thank you for admitting, however begrudgingly, that there are women who are forced into sex work. I know we like to think it's all those poor women who innocently chose sex work, but can we please put some urgency into locating and helping (and stopping, in the first place) women who are forced into this against their will? I can't think of anything more disgusting or horrifying and my heart goes out to those women who we shrug our shoulders at.
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    09/16/09

    @sanibelly: I didn't admit it "begrudgingly" at all. That "slaughterhouse" case is horrific.
    I've been working on and off for research on the subject for months now, using a variety of sources and talking to a lot of people involved. I just finished reading an account of one British woman's experience of being trafficked into Amsterdam...
    BUT the police are also using things like Pentameter against women who have made the choice to do sex work: [www.prostitutescollective.net]
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    Image of boxspelunker boxspelunker
    09/01/09

    In reply to Combating Sex Trafficking, With Or Without Ashton Kutcher's Help
    I was in Cambodia (Siam Reap) this summer for about two days. I knew that it had not recovered... well... from the genocide, and I know enough about how the government functions to know that what I saw was barely the tip of the iceberg.

    This is great. Really, really great. Sex tourism is a painful, awful thing, and any opportunity to try to give more options to anyone is good. Especially if they are sustainable and affordable.
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    Image of UrbanAchiever UrbanAchiever
    09/01/09

    In reply to Combating Sex Trafficking, With Or Without Ashton Kutcher's Help
    These women are really, really inspiring.
    Nicholas Kristof over at the NYT has been writing articles on this topic for some time now - heartwrenching stuff. Reading about Alissa and Diana's work is a great antidote.
    Link to Kristof's archives:
    [topics.nytimes.com]
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    Image of SarahMC SarahMC
    09/01/09

    In reply to Combating Sex Trafficking, With Or Without Ashton Kutcher's Help
    Wow. I applaud you. Not sure what else to say.
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    09/01/09

    In reply to Combating Sex Trafficking, With Or Without Ashton Kutcher's Help
    Here is a web site for the Body Shop for any UK Jezzies inspired to find out how they can help in the campaign.
    [www.thebodyshop.co.uk]
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