I saw it last night and I loved it. It's partly what I was expecting, and then more than that.
It is, in fact, very similar in tone to Slither. Which is funny, but funny amidst horror and real emotional sincerity. So it's like Slither meets Gingersnaps in a good way.
Also, the ads are misleading. This movie is VERY girl centric. Whatever tittilation may be had from Fox's character or the lesbian kiss is couched in so much layering, so many disturbing ideas about toxic friendships, that it's pretty clear that this is not sexed up for the male gaze. At all.
I'm honestly impressed. I was expecting fun horror, and I got that...but I also got emotional depth and one of the more honest explorations of poisonous female friendships. There are bunch of different themes at work, obsessive/consuming adolescent friendships, female sexuality, growing up...and, of course, bodies.
The consistent theme of devouring and consuming is pretty raw, too, and it hits on a lot of different meanings and levels.
I don't know. A lot came up for me while watching this movie. I had fun, and I did laugh, but it's a dark kind of comedy. It's played straight, similarly to Gingersnaps or even Heathers, amidst all kinds of chaotic and totally unreal events.
And I have to say...Megan Fox can act. The reviewers that couldn't see that missed something, I think. There's this underlying cynicism to the character that's really interesting. Amanda Seyfried was, naturally, really great. She plays Needy with this awkward, sincere, likability that's never fake.
it's also true horror, in the sense that it's more viscerally upsetting/disturbing than scary or even gory. There are definitely some gory scenes, but the horror lies in the relationships more than the violence.
just got back from seeing it. i hope someone remakes this movie in 15 years with more emphasis on the horror. since it's up to the director to set the script's tone or improve it, this disappointment of this pictures lies on karyn kusama's head. amanda seyfried was wasted in it. she can cry convincingly on cue, but the fluctuation in the movie's tone made her character unconvincing. megan fox wasn't given enough but she didn't fully utilize what she was given. can she act? yes, but like jennifer aniston, you take her out of that narrow box and put her something else, say a drama, and everything will implode.
as an aspiring screenwriter/director, i found myself trying to figure how i could right karyn kusama's wrong. first, the picture quality was too sheen robbing the story of its atmosphere. i didn't feel snowy mid-western town rather it felt like an exurb of a major city. secondly, karyn didn't trust the actions of the characters because she went too often to creepy sounds and music to set the mood. third, i wanted to see more characterization from jennifer, who should've been a more layered character.
@bess marvin, girl detective: Overall, I really enjoyed it/was disturbed. My main issues would be with pacing, which is a directors call more than anything. A script may lay things out a certain way, but a director is responsible for executing it. There were some choices that could have been switched up that would have, I think, made the storytelling more concise.
That said, I honestly was horrified and effected by most of the film. I wasn't expecting to relate so strongly to the toxic friendship, nor react so strongly to the reversal of roles with sympathetic characters like Chip and Colin. It was far more layered than even I had been expecting, and I think I need a day to process it all before I can really analyze it the way I'd like.
@bess marvin, girl detective: Do you have a blog or anything about movies? I always find your take on them so interesting, as you come at them from a technical perspective that I am not all that familiar with. Just curious.
@tiredfairy: yeah, the movie gets a 6.5 out of 10. i probably will buy the DVD for the special features and to see what was my favorite scene of the entire movie: jennifer's literal fall from grace occurring when needy ripped off her 'bff' necklace. excellent imagery.
@whynotshesaid: i don't have a blog but thanks for your words.
These are a few lines from Slither, one of the best horror comedies:
"This shits about as far from god as shit can get."
"Margaret packs a box lunch."
"I don't care if you are a lesbian, you don't deserve this shit."
This is my favorite line from From Dusk til' Dawn:
"Did they look like psycho's? Psycho's do not explode when sunlight hits them, I don't give a fuck how crazy they are."
This is from Gingersnaps:
"Then you'll just have to distract her while I nab the pooch and make with the gore."
I'd quote Heathers, but I think everyone here knows lines like "What's your damage?"
So.
Can we please stop talking about how "quirky" Cody's dialog is? Or that this movie looks "bad" when it's SUPPOSED to?
That would be awesome.
I'd much rather talk about the themes play out, or what the purpose of exploring the demonization of female sexuality might be in a horror movie with a feminist bent.
@tiredfairy: I watched Roadhouse last night with friends, and think that Cody could have saved that script for sure. Some winning dialogue here:
"Pain don't hurt."
"You're such an asshole."
"I used to fuck guys like you in prison!"
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I just saw Jennifer's Body and think her dialogue was perfect for it. Nuanced, even to show a lot of subtleties of character - not just a almgam of Nadsat.
@Jack_Burton: you see i disagree with that last statement. diablo's dialogue worked in juno because it also doubled as a defensive mechanism for its characters. the same can only be said for jennifer in this movie. it did not work for needy outside any of her scenes with jennifer nor was it handled well by chip.
*side note: the actress who played chip's mother was horrible. did she have a smile on her face while giving her son pepper spray because there is a cannibalistic freak running loose?! again, the tone fucked with me.
@bess marvin, girl detective: I actually felt like the "quirks" were even less out of place in Body, honestly. Needy says a few Codyisms, but they're mostly meant to be awkward, much like Chips. They're people who -want- to be able to drop lines like that, but don't have that built in bite. I didn't find them distracting, more charming, and when it's Jennifer there's this layer of...bitterness that's really interesting.
"But Jennifer treats Needy so badly, it's impossible to understand how these two women could be friends, other than out of habit (they've been pals since childhood)"
Whoops, Salon, I think you missed the point. Many teenage girl friendship are -exactly- like that. They're abusive. Because they've been friends so long, or there's this weird comfort in it.
So, yes, that is the point. It's out of habit. I'm pretty sure Cody even said that in her Bust interview and elsewhere.
I think the fact that critics are so divided, almost right down the middle, and with such violent reactions means it ought to be an interesting movie, at least. At least it's something that generates opinion and discussion.
"less a teenage girl turned monster than an exploration of the monster that lurks inside every teenage girl." This also bugs me. What monster is he talking about?
@ZemarSea Urchin: Depends on your point of view. Could be the way female sexuality is demonized in our culture (in this context, done literally). The tumultuous nature of adolescence for girls (which, yes, boys also have, but this is about the girl perspective).
The poisonous nature of some girl friendships, the way girls can "devour" each other with the way our culture constantly pits us in competition with each other, the "mean" girl phenomenon....I could keep going.
You can look at it metaphorically or literally, which is sort of the point of horror.
@checkyaself: You've got to be kidding. It's a play on the "hell" of adolescence, which is usually a pretty rough time for girls. Buffy did the same thing.
I think this is a love/hate thing. It will be interesting to see what the genre-reviewers think... I'm not expecting [i]Drag Me to Hell[/i], but I do imagine something a good deal better than [i]Sorority Row[/i].
"Needy never sees Jennifer alive again, as she's transformed into a succubus, a form of zombie/vampire, when the band's satanic virgin sacrifice goes awry. Jennifer returns to feast on innocent high school boys and Needy has to defend their male classmates, including her boyfriend Chip (Johnny Simmons)."
That whole line just sounds like those mothers who feel the need to save their sons from the wicked, sperm stealing, bad girls. I'm still on the fence about how feminist this movie really is. I wil go see it anyway because I love cheesey horror flicks but I don't think this going to be any more of a female centric tale than any other horror film. From what I've been reading it sounds like good girl vs bad girl and about how young women's relationships are battles and vapid.
@ZemarSea Urchin: Trust me, it is. Go read Cody's interview in Bust, and the entirety of the Ebert review.
I keep saying this, but she's PLAYING with those tropes. All of them. The girl friendship tropes, the good girl vs. bad girl tropes, it's all on purpose.
And it's not unfeminist to explore those things. What makes it feminist is how it's executed, and how intentionally it's explored.
@maggeimerc: I expected the same thing, but the Salon review that said it's impossible to imagine how they could be friends was actually written by Stephanie Zacharek.
When I saw the film the Hole song "Violet" played over the credits but these reviews are saying "Jennifer's Body" plays over the credits--can anyone who has seen it in release confirm?
@23skidooo: it is violet. just one of the many major mistakes the reviewers make, the other calling jennifer a cheerleader when she's clearly on the flag team.
@ozu: A surprisingly large sum! I guess Fox is just desperate for people to know that one reviewer compared the movie to a cat turd.
There's really no other reason for Jezebel to discuss a film about the teen girl experience, directed by a woman, written by an Oscar-winning female screenwriter, and starring an incredibly popular and controversial actress in her first leading role.
09/19/09
It is, in fact, very similar in tone to Slither. Which is funny, but funny amidst horror and real emotional sincerity. So it's like Slither meets Gingersnaps in a good way.
Also, the ads are misleading. This movie is VERY girl centric. Whatever tittilation may be had from Fox's character or the lesbian kiss is couched in so much layering, so many disturbing ideas about toxic friendships, that it's pretty clear that this is not sexed up for the male gaze. At all.
I'm honestly impressed. I was expecting fun horror, and I got that...but I also got emotional depth and one of the more honest explorations of poisonous female friendships. There are bunch of different themes at work, obsessive/consuming adolescent friendships, female sexuality, growing up...and, of course, bodies.
The consistent theme of devouring and consuming is pretty raw, too, and it hits on a lot of different meanings and levels.
I don't know. A lot came up for me while watching this movie. I had fun, and I did laugh, but it's a dark kind of comedy. It's played straight, similarly to Gingersnaps or even Heathers, amidst all kinds of chaotic and totally unreal events.
And I have to say...Megan Fox can act. The reviewers that couldn't see that missed something, I think. There's this underlying cynicism to the character that's really interesting. Amanda Seyfried was, naturally, really great. She plays Needy with this awkward, sincere, likability that's never fake.
it's also true horror, in the sense that it's more viscerally upsetting/disturbing than scary or even gory. There are definitely some gory scenes, but the horror lies in the relationships more than the violence.
09/18/09
as an aspiring screenwriter/director, i found myself trying to figure how i could right karyn kusama's wrong. first, the picture quality was too sheen robbing the story of its atmosphere. i didn't feel snowy mid-western town rather it felt like an exurb of a major city. secondly, karyn didn't trust the actions of the characters because she went too often to creepy sounds and music to set the mood. third, i wanted to see more characterization from jennifer, who should've been a more layered character.
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09/19/09
That said, I honestly was horrified and effected by most of the film. I wasn't expecting to relate so strongly to the toxic friendship, nor react so strongly to the reversal of roles with sympathetic characters like Chip and Colin. It was far more layered than even I had been expecting, and I think I need a day to process it all before I can really analyze it the way I'd like.
09/19/09
09/20/09
@whynotshesaid: i don't have a blog but thanks for your words.
09/18/09
"This shits about as far from god as shit can get."
"Margaret packs a box lunch."
"I don't care if you are a lesbian, you don't deserve this shit."
This is my favorite line from From Dusk til' Dawn:
"Did they look like psycho's? Psycho's do not explode when sunlight hits them, I don't give a fuck how crazy they are."
This is from Gingersnaps:
"Then you'll just have to distract her while I nab the pooch and make with the gore."
I'd quote Heathers, but I think everyone here knows lines like "What's your damage?"
So.
Can we please stop talking about how "quirky" Cody's dialog is? Or that this movie looks "bad" when it's SUPPOSED to?
That would be awesome.
I'd much rather talk about the themes play out, or what the purpose of exploring the demonization of female sexuality might be in a horror movie with a feminist bent.
09/18/09
"Pain don't hurt."
"You're such an asshole."
"I used to fuck guys like you in prison!"
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I just saw Jennifer's Body and think her dialogue was perfect for it. Nuanced, even to show a lot of subtleties of character - not just a almgam of Nadsat.
09/18/09
*side note: the actress who played chip's mother was horrible. did she have a smile on her face while giving her son pepper spray because there is a cannibalistic freak running loose?! again, the tone fucked with me.
09/19/09
09/18/09
Whoops, Salon, I think you missed the point. Many teenage girl friendship are -exactly- like that. They're abusive. Because they've been friends so long, or there's this weird comfort in it.
So, yes, that is the point. It's out of habit. I'm pretty sure Cody even said that in her Bust interview and elsewhere.
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The poisonous nature of some girl friendships, the way girls can "devour" each other with the way our culture constantly pits us in competition with each other, the "mean" girl phenomenon....I could keep going.
You can look at it metaphorically or literally, which is sort of the point of horror.
09/18/09
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09/18/09
Cue not so "mousey" friend... Whoa.
I think this is a love/hate thing. It will be interesting to see what the genre-reviewers think... I'm not expecting [i]Drag Me to Hell[/i], but I do imagine something a good deal better than [i]Sorority Row[/i].
09/18/09
That whole line just sounds like those mothers who feel the need to save their sons from the wicked, sperm stealing, bad girls. I'm still on the fence about how feminist this movie really is. I wil go see it anyway because I love cheesey horror flicks but I don't think this going to be any more of a female centric tale than any other horror film. From what I've been reading it sounds like good girl vs bad girl and about how young women's relationships are battles and vapid.
09/18/09
I keep saying this, but she's PLAYING with those tropes. All of them. The girl friendship tropes, the good girl vs. bad girl tropes, it's all on purpose.
And it's not unfeminist to explore those things. What makes it feminist is how it's executed, and how intentionally it's explored.
09/18/09
It will get my vote (i.e. dollars).
09/18/09
This film is bringing out a lot of nasty, though subtle, sexism from dudes.
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09/18/09
For a piece of throwaway fluff entertainment, it sure gets a lot of coverage.
09/18/09
There's really no other reason for Jezebel to discuss a film about the teen girl experience, directed by a woman, written by an Oscar-winning female screenwriter, and starring an incredibly popular and controversial actress in her first leading role.
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09/18/09
I'm such a fucking outcast.
09/18/09
When did people stop actually -reviewing- movies?