It seems like there was a lot of confusion surrounding the situation in the beginning, and I can understand how a reliable account might have been difficult to get.
However, if a misreporting of the facts continues (and I predict it will) then that will be entirely based on racism in my opinion. #forthood
Let's see - a HUGE patriarchal organization puts out incomplete and erroneous information about a disaster and then doesn't correct it when more details come to light?
That's called business as usual - they never admit mistakes. #forthood
Oh, MILITARY BRASS! The real world is not a John Wayne movie, and you look way less incompetent when you wait and tell the story that *actually happened* rather than creating a fiction everyone feels they have to debunk, clarify, explain later -- often to the embarrassment of the hapless hero whose story you've overblown.
This woman was shot in the line of duty while behaving heroically. Now that you've bungled the PR on this, it's less likely Angelina Jolie will play the role, but if you had thought about it more carefully and waited to reveal the true, confirmed story, you might have been able to get Angie and added in Brad Pitt to play the equally heroic partner! #forthood
@JennaW: I don't think this is all on the military. The press and public were rabid for any information. After a major event like this things can get confusing and incorrect information can get circulated and often printed. It doesn't have to be deliberate. Now that the initial panic has died down a more detailed analysis can be made. #forthood
@Little Time Bomb: I was thinking more along the lines of Pat Tillman and Jessica Lynch as this situation is reminiscent.
Also, the press is going to bark along after whatever they get and the public only remembers the first thing anyone says to it, so I take that silliness as default behavior. #forthood
The military always loves a good PR narrative, never mind the facts. Ask the Tillman family.
Personally, I think had Todd been the whitest dude on the planet, they still would have rushed to give credit to Munley first. It's the same reason they lied about Tillman: get our attention focused elsewhere so nobody asks about their complete and total fuck-up. "Don't pay attention to the fact that we totally dropped the ball on stopping this dude when he indicated violent tendencies; instead, here's a much better story about spunk and Amurrican heroism!"
If they had talked about Munley and Todd equally, cable news shows would have had much less airtime spent on "petite firecracker" and a lot more on "how the HELL did you guys let this happen?"
The military's first priority isn't giving credit to white chicks, it's covering their ass. Crediting Munley instead of Todd served their purpose well. #forthood
@morninggloria: Yeah, this. I'm actually kind of disappointed in myself for wanting her to be the one who shot him. Is it because he reportedly didn't like to be photographed with women at work? I guess I loved the idea of him being an asshat about women and then being shot by a woman.
But life is not an action movie, and what matters is he got stopped. And the media's handling of this narrative is really pissing me off. "You're so short and little, why not call for help Sgt. Munley?" "Well, Ann Curry, I consulted our LadyCop Help Matrix and while I am short and petite, I was not on my period and therefore felt I could handle it." #forthood
There is little doubt in my mind that this story is affected by racism and sexism. The narrative of the spunky little lady who takes down the big meanie (who also happens to be not-white, while the good guy lady is) is perfect for the exception-proves-the-rule logic of women and physical power. It's a weird way of lifting one woman up in order to highlight the feminine nature of other women, like "She can do this--isn't she something!" and also coupled with a tinge of the protecting-the-hearth thing, what with her being a mom and living at the base and stuff.
Then the other side is that a story about a black man winning the battle against another not-white man isn't as heroic and picturesque. Black men with guns are scary, right, and so to tell the story of a black man with a gun would bring to mind too many scary associations for the story to be worthwhile.
So highlighting the white woman's role and at the same time downplaying the black man's role play into the same whirlwind of racist and sexist associations that the media inevitably buys into and perpetuates. But it certainly isn't conscious--I doubt anyone heard the whole story and adjusted it for their own reporting. I think probably there were indications that the reported story wasn't the whole truth, but those gaps weren't questioned or pushed because the half-truth fit into an already conveniently formed narrative.
Whatever. Both of these people are bad ass. #forthood
@Cimorene: Very thoughtful points, as usual. I can't load the videos, so it's news to me that the partner was a black man. That certainly adds another layer to the story, doesn't it? #forthood
Yesterday was the first time I had heard anything about Sgt. Todd. I hope the inaccuracy of the reporting about who stopped the shooter makes people question the rest of the story, especially Hasan's intentions. It quickly went from "a captain says he was told by people that Hasan was shouting about Allah" to a definitive "Hasan was shouting about Allah". The news ... a grown-up version of the game Telephone. #forthood
I knew as soon as Ann announced that her father was there that something awful was about to go down.
Whether Munley or Todd is more of the hero, I'm not sure. But why did this woman have to have her father AND husband in attendance to praise her? Aren't her accomplishments self-evident and not in need of embellishment from uninvolved parties?
Apparently the producers at Today didn't think Todd needed his wife or mother there (or to explicitly detail his physical attributes).
1. Almost all of the initial reports from the Fort Hood shootings were wrong. There were reports that Hasan was dead, that there were two or three shooters, and that his name wasn't even his name. I am not surprised that reports on who actually took down Hasan would be all mangled as well. It would actually be par for the course.
2. It made for a cool narrative. The image of a physically small, highly trained woman hunting down and shooting an armed and dangerous mass murderer gave me a bit of a thrill, I'll admit, especially as it is not the kind of story we are used to hearing about. I can see why news people have run with it, because it seems to be one of those man-bites-dog stories with a bit of a girl-power (as much as I hate that term) sensibility tossed in. Of course, as cool as we might find a narrative to be, if it's not what actually happened, it should not be reported as fact. Unfortunately journalists all too often see narratives they like or understand, then will turn and try to cram the facts to fit those storylines rather than letting the storyline unfold organically. (I see this all the time in my own newsroom.) If we want to only write and talk about cool shit, then we need to go write fiction or something and leave the reporting to actual reporters. #forthood
@whynotshesaid: Your first point is what I think -- after all, eyewitness reports are not exactly bastions of accuracy. In that kind of mayhem, it's not at all unlikely that the narrative reported emerged out of muddled half-true recollections. #forthood
@whynotshesaid: Wasn't it also initially reported that some of the people killed might have been hit bu friendly fire? I'm not surprised that these accounts have turned out to be not 100% accurate either.
My mom is a paramedic and she had a co-worker who was about 5 feet tall and maybe 110 lbs. The firefighters used to tease her about being small and not strong, so she did the firefighter test. She whooped ass and then said fuck you I would rather be a paramedic (which requires lots of lifting too).
I think sexism before racism. A woman hero is a better news story because it is surprising. I also would expect it was not an intentional decision, but things changing through the grape vine as reporters and even staffers ask about the woman involved until somebody's memory changes. #forthood
@Lymed: I think it's both, but leaning I'm leaning toward racism. However, I know for a fact that the general public will spin this into a "women get all the credit just for doing their jobs" situation, and totally ignore the fact that both of them were, indeed courageous, and deserve recognition, but Senior Sgt. Todd deserves to be distinguished as the person who disarmed the shooter, and ended the ordeal.
@GirlFailer: Todd definitely deserves to be distinguished. I think the reason he wasn't though was it is easier for media to make a story about one hero, and the media is going to go to the woman because they can make it a David and Goliath story about how the little week woman shot the big bad terrorist. And the military PR people know that as well even if it was never a conscious decision.
@Lymed: I saw sexism almost immediately, when I first heard this narrative being told by a newscaster who said a "female officer" had played an important role. I found the descriptor unnecessary and problematic, while also of course feeling a deep sense of pride that a hero in this had been a woman. Naive me wondered if that might change a few macho minds about the roles of women in combat. So silly, JerseyGrrrl. #forthood
Also, this does kind of smack of the Jessica Lynch/Shoshanna Johnson situation. I'm glad that Sgt. Munley is correcting the media, and letting the world know that Senior Sgt Todd was the one who disarmed the shooter. If the media is in fact trying to glorify her acts (not that they were not courageous, but he was the one that disarmed the shooter), because she is a white woman, the least she can do is correct them.
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However, if a misreporting of the facts continues (and I predict it will) then that will be entirely based on racism in my opinion. #forthood
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That's called business as usual - they never admit mistakes. #forthood
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This woman was shot in the line of duty while behaving heroically. Now that you've bungled the PR on this, it's less likely Angelina Jolie will play the role, but if you had thought about it more carefully and waited to reveal the true, confirmed story, you might have been able to get Angie and added in Brad Pitt to play the equally heroic partner! #forthood
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Also, the press is going to bark along after whatever they get and the public only remembers the first thing anyone says to it, so I take that silliness as default behavior. #forthood
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Personally, I think had Todd been the whitest dude on the planet, they still would have rushed to give credit to Munley first. It's the same reason they lied about Tillman: get our attention focused elsewhere so nobody asks about their complete and total fuck-up. "Don't pay attention to the fact that we totally dropped the ball on stopping this dude when he indicated violent tendencies; instead, here's a much better story about spunk and Amurrican heroism!"
If they had talked about Munley and Todd equally, cable news shows would have had much less airtime spent on "petite firecracker" and a lot more on "how the HELL did you guys let this happen?"
The military's first priority isn't giving credit to white chicks, it's covering their ass. Crediting Munley instead of Todd served their purpose well. #forthood
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But life is not an action movie, and what matters is he got stopped. And the media's handling of this narrative is really pissing me off. "You're so short and little, why not call for help Sgt. Munley?" "Well, Ann Curry, I consulted our LadyCop Help Matrix and while I am short and petite, I was not on my period and therefore felt I could handle it." #forthood
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I'm hope both officers get the credit they deserve. Well done by all. #forthood
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They're both heroes, none the less, but yeah, wish the media would stop trying to create the narrative so quickly. #forthood
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Then the other side is that a story about a black man winning the battle against another not-white man isn't as heroic and picturesque. Black men with guns are scary, right, and so to tell the story of a black man with a gun would bring to mind too many scary associations for the story to be worthwhile.
So highlighting the white woman's role and at the same time downplaying the black man's role play into the same whirlwind of racist and sexist associations that the media inevitably buys into and perpetuates. But it certainly isn't conscious--I doubt anyone heard the whole story and adjusted it for their own reporting. I think probably there were indications that the reported story wasn't the whole truth, but those gaps weren't questioned or pushed because the half-truth fit into an already conveniently formed narrative.
Whatever. Both of these people are bad ass. #forthood
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Definitely cringe-worthy. How is that remotely pertinent to what she did? #forthood
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I knew as soon as Ann announced that her father was there that something awful was about to go down.
Whether Munley or Todd is more of the hero, I'm not sure. But why did this woman have to have her father AND husband in attendance to praise her? Aren't her accomplishments self-evident and not in need of embellishment from uninvolved parties?
Apparently the producers at Today didn't think Todd needed his wife or mother there (or to explicitly detail his physical attributes).
Gah. #forthood
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1. Almost all of the initial reports from the Fort Hood shootings were wrong. There were reports that Hasan was dead, that there were two or three shooters, and that his name wasn't even his name. I am not surprised that reports on who actually took down Hasan would be all mangled as well. It would actually be par for the course.
2. It made for a cool narrative. The image of a physically small, highly trained woman hunting down and shooting an armed and dangerous mass murderer gave me a bit of a thrill, I'll admit, especially as it is not the kind of story we are used to hearing about. I can see why news people have run with it, because it seems to be one of those man-bites-dog stories with a bit of a girl-power (as much as I hate that term) sensibility tossed in. Of course, as cool as we might find a narrative to be, if it's not what actually happened, it should not be reported as fact. Unfortunately journalists all too often see narratives they like or understand, then will turn and try to cram the facts to fit those storylines rather than letting the storyline unfold organically. (I see this all the time in my own newsroom.) If we want to only write and talk about cool shit, then we need to go write fiction or something and leave the reporting to actual reporters. #forthood
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Size doesn't matter asshat Curry. #forthood
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