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ArtfulSlinger
12:02 PM

In reply to Shaniya Davis' Aunt Speaks Out • Teacher Sues After Slipping On Condoms
I feel so bad for this woman and can completely understand her pain, and more than sympathize with her. The justice system can never really repair the damage these criminals have caused in their victims' lives, as well as their own families.

If there was any time better than now to take a deep dark look at what we are doing with our penal/judicial system, its now.
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Flackette Goes Retro
09:32 AM

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I realize she's just speaking out of pain, and I respect that (heaven knows that if I were in her shoes, I'd be saying a whole lot worse, and probably be plotting to kill the suspect myself), but I just wanted to point out that many local jails now do charge prisoners a daily fee - about $10 most places - for their food and lodging. Not that that at all helps the horrible situation this family is in - just being servicey.
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MIXED
11/23/09

In reply to Shaniya Davis' Aunt Speaks Out • Teacher Sues After Slipping On Condoms
I wish I were a Rhodes Scholar with a Rhodes Scholar boyfriend! Pshh overachievers!

//congrats to both of them, what an achievement!
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curiousgeorgiana
11/23/09

@MIXED: Yeah, seriously people. Leave some good stuff for the rest of us! Hoarders.

Awesome for them. Hooray!!!
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eibhinn
11/23/09

@MIXED: The only Rhodes scholar I've ever met had an adorable burnout hippy boyfriend who was more interested in camping than studying. She detested Oxford and didn't finish her degree.
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Pizza!Pizza!Pizza!
11/23/09

@eibhinn: It's got to be bittersweet winning an amazing, prestigious award and getting an incredible opportunity... all tied to a guy who was a bigot, colonialist zealot who thought white Brits should rule the world (and especially diamond-rich South Africa – Rhodes was co-founder of DeBeers).
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Alohamaid
11/23/09

@curiousgeorgiana: um as someone who practically majored in dating Rhodes while at oxford I'd say you don't want most of them [/insecurity]
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curiousgeorgiana
11/23/09

@Alohamaid: I didn't mean the boyfriend LOL-- I meant the scholarship!!!

#tips
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Alohamaid
11/23/09

@curiousgeorgiana: whoops! Feminism fail

#tips
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curiousgeorgiana
11/23/09

@Alohamaid: LOL, no I wasn't specific ;o).
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Penny
11/23/09

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I can't imagine having to reconcile Justice and justice for one you've lost. I don't care how much someone wants to wax poetic about the law/system and how government guarantees human treatment of all its citizens (which it doesn't really anyhow), that will be of little solace to someone in Lockhart-Davis' position.
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curiousgeorgiana
11/23/09

@Penny: Yes. I once had this conversation with my dad. He said that if someone murdered me, he would want them to get the death penalty. I argued with him that he doesn't support the death penalty, doesn't believe the state should kill etc etc.

He just said: "There's a reason fathers of murdered children aren't allowed in sentencing hearings."
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curiousgeorgiana
11/23/09

In reply to Shaniya Davis' Aunt Speaks Out • Teacher Sues After Slipping On Condoms
Once again, screw you VMI.

They recruited me; heavily recruited me. And I made the mistake of visiting the school. They harassed me for 3 months with constant calls/ letters--even after I told them I had accepted elsewhere. It took my dad getting on the phone and in his best commanding officer voice, telling them to fuck off before they stopped.

I'm sure some women have a fine experience there-- the women I talked to did not recommend it.
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daradoodle
11/23/09

@curiousgeorgiana: A sister of a friend of mine went there and had a really awful time. Last I heard she was spending her sophomore year abroad at a military academy in France just to get away.
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curiousgeorgiana
11/23/09

@daradoodle: I dealt with my share of sexist attitudes in NROTC. But those individuals were exceptions to the general rule. Not to mention guys would get slammed pretty hard by superior officers if they caught wind of comments etc. or witnessed any harassment.

It seems to be a culture at VMI, and I'm shocked that women survive it. Good for your friend for getting a break!
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daradoodle
11/23/09

@curiousgeorgiana: Yeah, I read a bunch about the school for a class (we were focusing on military academies for a couple of weeks), and I have to say, I don't really understand why a woman would choose to go there, knowing what I found out. It seems as though the culture is almost a reaction (a very bitter, nasty one) to being forced to admit women, and its just scary.
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Her Grace
11/23/09

@curiousgeorgiana: Many women from my university, Mary Baldwin College, are and were in the military program hosted on our campus, the Virginia Women's Institute for Leadership. VWIL is the only all-female cadet corps in the world, but we're a small school (around 900 students, with about 150 in VWIL at any time) and couldn't offer all of the officer training on campus. Upperclassmen would go down to VMI (about half an hour) and be part of their training; my friends who did so said it was horrible and sexist.
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Ailatan
11/23/09

In reply to Shaniya Davis' Aunt Speaks Out • Teacher Sues After Slipping On Condoms
"They caused, allowed and permitted condoms to be distributed by school personnel to the students, many of which were opened during the school lunch period and thrown on the floor"

I'm sorry this lady fell and all, but I have a sneaky suspicion that she's just annoyed at students having had some real sex education at school.
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Gavagirl
11/23/09

@Ailatan: When I read that a teacher had "slipped on a condom", I thought maybe it had gotten a little too real. Hooray for linguistic ambiguity and its many amusements!
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I, Zombie Normal
11/23/09

@Ailatan: That's what I first thought, and I hope I'm just a damnable cynic, but I honestly thought it was a ruse to ban sex ed and the condom handouts.
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limber
11/23/09

@Ailatan: Sounds a lot like it, eh? She'd have a better case if they were still doing the condoms-on-bananas bit, and she'd slipped on one of those...
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whats_in_a_name
11/23/09

@Ailatan: Comprehensive sex ed: it's all fun and games till somebody slips and pokes an eye out.
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TimFritz
11/23/09

@Ailatan: Alas! We see why sex ed in public schools isn't working. If it were, they would know that the condoms go on your penis and not on the floor!

I blame the system!
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PipPipCheerio
11/23/09

@Ailatan: They're passing out condoms in schools??!! Everyone will be falling all over the place!!

Won't someone think of the children??!! [that these children won't be having because they're being given condoms in school]
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maggiethecat
11/23/09

@Ailatan: How the F do you not see garbage on the floor? How do you slip on a used condom? It's not like those things need a decoder pen- they're not made invisible. Maybe her arms were full of promise keeper pamphlets.
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tacotico
11/23/09

@Ailatan: The good news is that the school is handing out lubricated condoms for the ladies.
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quisbella
11/23/09

@Ailatan: I'm afraid of the consequences this could have on the sex education of NYC students. Could the BofE then argue that they can't hand out condoms because they don't want this lawsuit to happen again?
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Red-headed bookworm
10:01 AM

@Gavagirl: Haha, that was my thought too. Who says grammar and language aren't fun?
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Elaken
11/23/09

In reply to Shaniya Davis' Aunt Speaks Out • Teacher Sues After Slipping On Condoms
How amazing to be with someone who is just as intelligent/driven/capable as you. Very cool for Longino.
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AndPreciousLittleofThat
11/23/09

In reply to Shaniya Davis' Aunt Speaks Out • Teacher Sues After Slipping On Condoms
Boy, that's far and away the most creative argument against condoms in schools I've ever heard.

Never mind kids having unprotected sex, because we have to worry about the real menace: SLIPPAGE.
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MalinaMango
11/23/09

@AndPreciousLittleofThat: Yeah, by her logic the school cafeterias should also ban bananas, butter, and Jell-O. Oh, and all liquids.
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I, Zombie Normal
11/23/09

@MalinaMango: I slipped on a pencil in school once, so let's get rid of those. They're practically weapons!
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Jack_Burton
11/23/09

@I, Zombie Normal: OMG! My seatbelt gave me a welt when I ran my car into that concrete pylon and it saved my li- ... oh never mind.
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linnyt is a walking cliché
11/23/09

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When I'm Head Cheese of the World I'm going to abolish religion in government. I don't know how yet but I'll figure it out after I figure out how to become Head Cheese.
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winner
11/23/09

@linnyt is a walking cliché: I will vote for you to become head cheese.

When you become head cheese, just create a constitution that says religion can't influence policy. And put it in your constitution that when a policymaker allows religion to influence policy, he is to be F-I-R-E-D.
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linnyt is a walking cliché
11/23/09

@winner: Sounds like a plan. You can have a position in my Cheese Cabinet if you would like.

#tips
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Lymed
11/23/09

In reply to Miles To Go Before They Sleep: Saturday Vote Is Just The Start
Perhaps if the Bishops called out all Catholic politicians for any legislation that leads to murder it wouldn't be so bad. But do they call out the politicians who support the death penalty? How about the politicians that prevent changes to policy to reduce wrongful convictions? How about the politicians that support war? How about the politicians that don't provide adequate support for our troops who are facing death? Or don't support adequate medical care to those who return? How about the politicians that allow our veterans to go untreated for brain injury and PTSD so they put their own lives and the lives of their families at risk? How about the politicians that vote in favor of the tobacco industry? How about the politicians that are preventing health reform that would save and improve lives of so many Americans?
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ItchykooParker
11/23/09

@Lymed: Brilliant, you are.
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Lymed
11/23/09

@ItchykooParker: So I tell myself every morning.
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ItchykooParker
11/23/09

@Lymed: As you should!

#tips
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winner
11/23/09

@Lymed: Lymed 2012!
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Lymed
11/23/09

@winner: Well, I'll be old enough.
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Hooplehead
11/23/09

@Lymed: Unless it is a policy that penalizes slutty, slutty women, it seems that the bishops just can't be bothered to disapprove. Dirty old men!
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morninggloria
11/23/09

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Catholicism is quickly becoming the religious equivalent of your super embarrassing aunt who gets drunk and says racist stuff to your friends.
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bluebears
11/23/09

@morninggloria: I feel like they're actively TRYING to drive younger people away at this point.
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ItchykooParker
11/23/09

@bluebears: True. My teenaged son (I am more of a Unitarian myself) recently converted to Catholicism. After being in the church for about a year, he converted right back out! Good man!
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morninggloria
11/23/09

@bluebears: If that's what they're trying to do, then they're doing an awesome job.
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Lymed
11/23/09

@morninggloria: I find it sad that these incidences overshadow Catholicism's social justice work. Both in the media attention and, I fear, in the actual commitment by the church, bishops and priests. There are some Catholic churches that are safe havens to undocumented immigrants. There are some that stand next to community organizers and unions fighting for the poor.
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bluebears
11/23/09

@Lymed: unfortunately though, it's a top down organization and the upper management (if you will) seems way less interested in social justice then your kind hearted parish priest or kick ass nun (I have a fondness for nuns). So I don't think its surprising that the social justice work gets overshadowed.
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Lymed
11/23/09

@bluebears: But the Catholic Church used to be known as a social justice organization in America. It is the change that saddens me...as a non-Catholic social justice activist.
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bluebears
11/23/09

@morninggloria: they have a lot of resources at their disposal.
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bluebears
11/23/09

@Lymed: They did some really admirable things during the civil rights era particularly. I've never felt though, that they did much for women.
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morninggloria
11/23/09

@Lymed: I'm with you, sister.

I was pretty into being Catholic for a long time because I loved that part of the faith was service. I went to a Catholic university and did service work all through college (I also sang in the liturgical choir) and due to my Catholic faith, I joined Americorps after I graduated.

I realized one day, though, that you can believe in serving others and social justice without the icky parts of the Church clinging to you. You can be pro-social justice and also pro-women's rights. You can be a moral person without the institution telling you that your body isn't really yours.
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BearDownCBears
11/23/09

In reply to Miles To Go Before They Sleep: Saturday Vote Is Just The Start
But...Wasserman Schultz was politicizing breast cancer. I mean, obviously the GOP is throwing this out primarily as a hurdle. But I watched that yesterday, and the point was that the council had a great deal of regulatory power over Medicare or the public option or whatever. Stephanopolis read the line in the bill, and the congresswoman said no, it's just a suggestion. She was ignoring the issue.

I don't really know who's technically correct, but this whole affair begs the question: when the government is responsible for more health spending, it will be responsible for budgeting. Maybe that will require hard choices. Maybe in order to pay for one thing that will save or better a large group of people, a minority of others might be shorted for treatment funds. Or maybe in order to save a diminishing margin of people for one disease you would need to spend money on an expensive screening process that could be used more efficiently to save a larger group of people for something else. Health care is utilitarian in that respect.

Under a private system, squawking over rationing won't due any good because you're nobody's boss. Public officials are (in thoery) our minions, though. The Democrats' jumpy reaction to the reports this week makes me worry that in the future lawmakers will quixotically pursue 100% treatment under the threat of interest groups. If we have to make Medicare cuts and reduce fee-for-service and the like in order for this thing to work on a cost basis, we're in deep shit.
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BearDownCBears
11/23/09

@BearDownCBears: proofreading is hard
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WashingMyHair
11/23/09

In reply to Miles To Go Before They Sleep: Saturday Vote Is Just The Start
"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." - Mohandas (Mahatma) Gandhi
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NefariousNewt
11/23/09

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It's time for everyone to stand up, including myself. I'm trying to draft a letter I can send to all the members of the Senate, imploring them to consider carefully the implications of killing health care reform. I don't expect the Republicans to listen, but at least I will have had my say.
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NefariousNewt
11/23/09

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"Don't ask me to make everybody live by it because they are not members of the church," Cuomo said. "If that were the operative rule, how could you get any Catholic politician in office? And would that be better for the Catholic church?"

Exactly. The Catholic church is great at the holier-than-thou stuff, but all they ever end up doing is shooting themselves in the foot. They have a lot of nerve whining about abortion funding, while their church is having to fight off lawsuit after lawsuit because their celibate male priests can't keep their hands of young boys.
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WashingMyHair
11/23/09

@NefariousNewt: Remember history. Weren't many folks afraid that President JFK was going to take his orders from the Pope. Shit like this makes what was once thought of as an irrational fear as quite legit. Well, this and Judge Scallia, who probably does make all of his decisions based on Catholic doctrine.
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