I like the idea that women flock to self-help books as a way of achieving agency in a patriarchy-it certainly makes sense to me on a gut level.
However, I don't think it's odd that women buy the vast majority of self-help books because, quite simply, they buy the vast majority of books. When I worked in book publishing we always considered how women in the office felt about a book cover because we knew they were more likely to go to the store and buy it. In fact, women not only buy their own books but they buy most of the books the men in their lives read.
Women read more than men, a lot more than men, there are a lot more books directed at them in general- romance novels, chick lit, cozy mysteries.
I don't think I've ever read an actual self-help book, but I don't have a problem with them. He's just not that into you actually helped a few people I know. I've always thought that someone should write a good, non-touchy feely dating manual for guys- I think there is a market for it.
I've found that a big part of becoming an adult, at least for me, was identifying that in most situations, I know what's best for my life, and to tune out the advice, "shoulds" and pressures from friends, family, media, society, etc. Not in a concieted "I know better than everyone" way, and not that I don't ask for advice sometimes, but I don't really let other people tell me how to live my life, well-meaning or not. So I don't really understand the urge to buy a book to tell me how to act, think, or whatever. If I want to "fix" myself, I'll figure out how, because I know my situation and the way my brain works better then anybody (quitting smoking cold turkey? Never going to happen. Cutting down very gradually? yes).
honestly i think blakely just focused specifically on relationship books and skewed the story in that direction. there are plenty of other self-help books that deal with issues not related to men or relationships, such as self-coaching, health, self-defeating behaviors, on and on. and better knowing oneself is really the only way any of us are gonna get that unique individual life we want.
sometimes we have relationship issues and yes, we want to read stuff that either validates us or points out things we might not have considered. personally my favorites was "Why Men Love Bitches" because basically it said, Get Your Unique Individual Life First! Then you won't be worrying about whether or not he's into you."
@msAnthrope: My fiance, post-divorce, went through kind of a period of trying to figure out his goals, build up his confidence and self-worth, basically reevaluate his life in the midst of the wreckage so he could come out a better person. He read TONS of self-help books -- some more emotionally based, some business-based -- and as a relatively introverted person with a history of depression, these kinds of books were of great help to him. It's not like he took every one of them as his personal Bible -- he simply found some sound principles and useful life-coping skills that have helped him in his self-induced process of becoming a better, happier person.
The only self-help book I've ever read was "What's Your Poop Telling You?" It changed my life. Thank you, Anish Sheth and Josh Richman, for your courageous work. I will never skip my spinach again.
Isn't it not surprising that women are reading more self-help books than men considering that . . . more women are reading anything than men?
At any rate, I feel like people constantly misunderstand why other people read self-help books. Sure, there are some people out there that read them for the wisdom contained therein--but for the majority of us who have made it through at least 25 years of life with a few good friends and maybe a little therapy, there's no particularly novel advice or ideas that will be contained in these books. What self-help books do, though, is remind you that you're not alone--that no matter how tough or heart-wrenching your current problem seems right now, there are people out there who have gone through the same thing or worse, and made it through just fine. Enough people, in fact, that publishers thought it was worth it to publish an entire book on the subject and market it to millions of people.
The helpful part of self-help isn't that it provides you with some magical solutions to your problem. It's that it makes you feel less alone, gives you concrete examples of people who have already done what feels impossible to you, and it pushes you through the tough parts.
@nora charles: Agreed. While I'm hesitant to generalize, I know far more women who are self-aware, accepting of their flaws and willing to work to improve themselves than men.
Personally, I can't abide self-help books because I prefer to use reading as escapism. Exception: books written by REAL therapists (Dr. Phil, I'm not looking at you).
Exactly. I've been reading some self help books that deal with anger management and obsessive worrying, and when I was reading one I turned to my boyfriend and was like "Wow, it makes me feel less crazy knowing that there are diagnosable patterns that explain my behavior." Seeing a CHART with the thought patterns I use made be go "Oh, ok. This is pretty normal. Must not be that hard to not do."
All the books I've read were ones written by actual accredited therapists that I can't afford.
I'm going to write a self help book. It's going to say: Don't waste your time worrying about trying to get people to do things and fulfilling all these weird expectations - if you want it, do it and do it yourself.
I mean, it's a bit of a run-on, but hopefully it gets the message across.
Wait, so you don't want to read the book I'm working on? I think I'm going to call it "How to Gather Your Hunter." It's going to be a combination diet/dating book, with tips from Cavewomen experts on how to maintain that fantastic prehistoric figure with the berries you pick yourself! Plus, how to attract a man, and how to avoid being dragged by your hair back to his cave, because that's just undignified.
Ok now, I read Smart Women, Foolish Choices years ago. And it really didn't strike me so much as a you suck because you are a woman as You need to figure out what you want. Which in my opinion is good advice. Not all of those books are crappy.
This might be controversial, but I actually think some of the views in the "He's Not Into You" book could be enormously empowering to some women. To summarize loosely, some of the ideas are: don't wait around for a man to call, go out and live your life; don't pursue any one man heavily-after all, if a man could in theory invent a telephone, he could also pick one up to call you, it's really not that hard; and then, if a man doesn't pursue you with great interest and always needs prodding, why waste your time on someone who's lukewarm? Yeah it's common sense re-packaged in a new form, I get that. But here's the crux, and this is true in publishing: we market books to men based their perceived weakness (or strength), too. Men have their large share of issues, like how to make more money, be more successful, land the honcho job...they are not immune to the marketing machine.
All this information is simply available. Take what you can out of it, and leave behind the rest. That's what any great reader does. Process the information, filters it through, then applies it to their own life, or not, whatever the case may be.
Personally, I loathe the repetitiveness of the self-help genre. They are the hardest to design, simply because they are soooo derivative of one another. The concepts, to me, are rather interchangeable and bland, it's mostly a matter of new lingo or packaging.
@OneTwoPunch: I found that book to be helpful. It stopped me from calling, texting and generally waiting around for dudes. Bottom line: if they want my company, they can pursue me.
Guess what? It generally works, and if it doesn't, the guy wasn't interested. I only wish I'd gotten smart sooner, it would have saved me years of obsessing.
@OneTwoPunch: I'm always baffled by the feminist backlash to that book--I feel like they read a completely different book from the one I read. I mean, yes, there are one or two instances of The Rules regurgitation, but 95 percent of the book is just "Stop waiting around for douchebags who don't treat you like you're awesome." It's hard to argue with that.
@nora charles: I think the problems I have with it are a) it assumes women are too stupid to figure out social signs from others, b) This is a problem only to women, and the guy couldn't possibly be not calling you because he thinks you don't like him, c) you shouldn't call him, thats not what a woman does....
I found the love of my life by asking him out because he was too afraid to. As opposed to being on the hunt for men all the time handing out my number because singledom is tragic, I enjoyed my solitude and was direct when someone interesting came along. There shouldn't be any shame in that, and had I been a follower of that book, I would have never been in this awesome relationship.
@itsonreserve: Yes, and then ... I mean, maybe he should have written a book directed towards the men, you know? Like if a woman is calling you all the time, be an adult and tell her clearly that you're not interested in pursuing a relationship with her. Why are all of these books directly towards women, you know? Maybe (and I know this is shocking to think about) there might be some issues men have that need to be addressed ...
So, wait, cross your legs while you masturbate? Think about playing football as you politely place your silverware at the 5 o'clock position?
Yes, I know those are stereotypes too, but I guess that shows that most things aimed towards helping one gender or another is bound to be stereotypical because they're going for whatever they think that a mass amount of people in that gender will be. So how about we just stop writing them? I think self-help books aimed at more important things, like, say, fiscal responsibility or being healthy, are much more useful than the usually gender-aimed 'BE A BETTER WOMAN' or 'BE A BALLSIER GUY.'
I'm also offended (not obscenely so, but a little rustled, you could say) that one should think like a man? Granted, I haven't seen the book, but the title gives off the sense that it can't be much better. I will go look it up, though.
"As a popular comedian, radio host and red-blooded male, Harvey doesn't have the bona fides typical to most women's relationship self-help, but he still manages a thorough, witty guide to the modern man. Harvey undertakes the tast because "Women are clueless about men," because "Men get away with a whole lot of stuff" and because he has "some valuable information to change all of that." Harvey makes a game effort, taking a bold but familiar men-are-dogs approach: if you're "cutting back" on sex, "he will have another woman lined up and waiting to give him what he needs and wants--the cookie." Several chapters later, however, he introduces the "ninety-day rule," asserting that, actually, he won't always have another woman lined up--and the only way to makes sure is a three-month vetting period. Harvey also tackles mama's boys, "independent--and lonely--women," and the matter of children in the dating world ("If he's meeting the kids after you decide he's the one, it's too late")."
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However, I don't think it's odd that women buy the vast majority of self-help books because, quite simply, they buy the vast majority of books. When I worked in book publishing we always considered how women in the office felt about a book cover because we knew they were more likely to go to the store and buy it. In fact, women not only buy their own books but they buy most of the books the men in their lives read.
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I don't think I've ever read an actual self-help book, but I don't have a problem with them. He's just not that into you actually helped a few people I know. I've always thought that someone should write a good, non-touchy feely dating manual for guys- I think there is a market for it.
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sometimes we have relationship issues and yes, we want to read stuff that either validates us or points out things we might not have considered. personally my favorites was "Why Men Love Bitches" because basically it said, Get Your Unique Individual Life First! Then you won't be worrying about whether or not he's into you."
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Which is the other way to kill your appetite.
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At any rate, I feel like people constantly misunderstand why other people read self-help books. Sure, there are some people out there that read them for the wisdom contained therein--but for the majority of us who have made it through at least 25 years of life with a few good friends and maybe a little therapy, there's no particularly novel advice or ideas that will be contained in these books. What self-help books do, though, is remind you that you're not alone--that no matter how tough or heart-wrenching your current problem seems right now, there are people out there who have gone through the same thing or worse, and made it through just fine. Enough people, in fact, that publishers thought it was worth it to publish an entire book on the subject and market it to millions of people.
The helpful part of self-help isn't that it provides you with some magical solutions to your problem. It's that it makes you feel less alone, gives you concrete examples of people who have already done what feels impossible to you, and it pushes you through the tough parts.
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Personally, I can't abide self-help books because I prefer to use reading as escapism. Exception: books written by REAL therapists (Dr. Phil, I'm not looking at you).
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Exactly. I've been reading some self help books that deal with anger management and obsessive worrying, and when I was reading one I turned to my boyfriend and was like "Wow, it makes me feel less crazy knowing that there are diagnosable patterns that explain my behavior." Seeing a CHART with the thought patterns I use made be go "Oh, ok. This is pretty normal. Must not be that hard to not do."
All the books I've read were ones written by actual accredited therapists that I can't afford.
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I am a catastrophizer.
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I mean, it's a bit of a run-on, but hopefully it gets the message across.
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All this information is simply available. Take what you can out of it, and leave behind the rest. That's what any great reader does. Process the information, filters it through, then applies it to their own life, or not, whatever the case may be.
Personally, I loathe the repetitiveness of the self-help genre. They are the hardest to design, simply because they are soooo derivative of one another. The concepts, to me, are rather interchangeable and bland, it's mostly a matter of new lingo or packaging.
But whatevs.
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Guess what? It generally works, and if it doesn't, the guy wasn't interested. I only wish I'd gotten smart sooner, it would have saved me years of obsessing.
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I found the love of my life by asking him out because he was too afraid to. As opposed to being on the hunt for men all the time handing out my number because singledom is tragic, I enjoyed my solitude and was direct when someone interesting came along. There shouldn't be any shame in that, and had I been a follower of that book, I would have never been in this awesome relationship.
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So, wait, cross your legs while you masturbate? Think about playing football as you politely place your silverware at the 5 o'clock position?
Yes, I know those are stereotypes too, but I guess that shows that most things aimed towards helping one gender or another is bound to be stereotypical because they're going for whatever they think that a mass amount of people in that gender will be. So how about we just stop writing them? I think self-help books aimed at more important things, like, say, fiscal responsibility or being healthy, are much more useful than the usually gender-aimed 'BE A BETTER WOMAN' or 'BE A BALLSIER GUY.'
I'm also offended (not obscenely so, but a little rustled, you could say) that one should think like a man? Granted, I haven't seen the book, but the title gives off the sense that it can't be much better. I will go look it up, though.
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"As a popular comedian, radio host and red-blooded male, Harvey doesn't have the bona fides typical to most women's relationship self-help, but he still manages a thorough, witty guide to the modern man. Harvey undertakes the tast because "Women are clueless about men," because "Men get away with a whole lot of stuff" and because he has "some valuable information to change all of that." Harvey makes a game effort, taking a bold but familiar men-are-dogs approach: if you're "cutting back" on sex, "he will have another woman lined up and waiting to give him what he needs and wants--the cookie." Several chapters later, however, he introduces the "ninety-day rule," asserting that, actually, he won't always have another woman lined up--and the only way to makes sure is a three-month vetting period. Harvey also tackles mama's boys, "independent--and lonely--women," and the matter of children in the dating world ("If he's meeting the kids after you decide he's the one, it's too late")."
Annnnnd no thanks kbye.
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