Oh for straight hair. I cut my curls off a few months ago and have been growing it back out since. The combination of gigantic, very insistent curls and short hair leaves me looking like I stuck my finger in an electrical socket.
I have auburn curly hair. For as long as I can remember, I have received comments from friends, family and strangers regarding 'how gorgeous' my hair is. Just last week, I had 2 separate instances of drunk women I had just met petting my hair (kinda weird, but I'm used to this). During the 90's and 00's, when I was in HS and college, these random comments prevented me from doing anything to change my hair. Enough people told me I was lucky to have my hair that I started believing it. So if tou would like to promote the curly style, then compliment a small child on their curly hair. It might mean more to them then you think.
@taytay18: Agh, that was about half the reason I stopped going to hair salons. People kept talking about my hair as if it had magical powers - oh, look how curly it is! I would do X, Y and Z if I had your hair! It made me so uncomfortable, I ended up cutting it all off myself. I'm 22, and I haven't been to a salon since I was about 14. I cut and style my own hair, because I think it's so creepy when people make a thing about curly hair D:
Also, when I had hair down to my waist, people kept touching it. Don't touch my hair; I don't know where your hands have been.
@taytay18: TayTay18, on a similar note, it seems that a lot of men have a fetish for curly hair (or in my case, curly red hair). I often have a lot of creeeeepy men come up to me on the rail, in cafes, at the bank, etc and make remarks about my hair. It's often something along the lines of "Oh, a redhead. I LOVE redheads. Your curls are fiery, GRRR! heh heh heh."
It's really disturbing! It really bothers me that these men see me, not as a normal human being just like them, but as a "type" in their sick genre book of women to jack off to.
@boxspelunker: I actually didn't go to salons from about age 8 to 22 because when I did I would come out crying! Maybe missing those salon-adorers was a good thing for me. Also, my mom was a lot cheaper.
I typically dislike the people that grope my hair, but I was in a good mood last week and didn't really mind. When they do annoy me, however, I find discussing the last time I shampooed will make them stop quickly. (I am a firm believer in only shampooing my hair when it is oily, which is about once every 2 weeks).
@taytay18: Ha! I wonder if it had an effect on us. I hate salons - I get all angry and bitter, as reflected in my comment above. My mom also went to the $10 per head salons, so... I imagine pricier places would be better about different hair textures than Cheapy McFamily Hair Place.
I find no one wants to touch dreadlocks. It's fabulous for me. They assume I never wash or comb my hair, which is, in fact, not true! I like your method, though. If I ever cut these things off (and I probably will one day), I will borrow this.
@knbfay: You are right on. There are so many creepy, creepy guys out there that love redheads! And curly redheads! I ignore any guy that comments on my hair in the first 5 minutes, as they clearly are looking for the 'type' and not the person.
But I did find out that my current BF has a thing for redheads. He told me after we had been dating for over a year. I told him that he is lucky he didn't say anything earlier, as I probably would've dumped him based on that alone.
@boxspelunker: One of my best friends in high school had dreads, and we'd touch hers all the time.But, I won't touch strangers unless I ask first. And after you ask, then you typically feel like a creeper and won't actually do it. I will also say that while it stinks to pay more for a 'curly' haircut, it isn't that bad when I take into account that I only get 2 haircuts a year.
@taytay18: Sometimes, when people get to know me well, they want to touch the dreads. But strangers give me dirty looks, so I consider it GREAT SUCCESS :D
Man, as if we curly/kinky/nappy-haired people of the world needed YET another societally-sanctioned rejection of our natural appearance. I can just imagine that whatever "treatments" they come up with to genetically "cure" curly hair will cost a whole grip of cash. Think of the debt some black women will go into to get their hands on this mess, and then think of the pediatric version of the "treatments" that will undoubtedly be produced when they decide the "kiddie perms" they've been subjecting their 3-year-old daughters to will no longer do. Damn, first the Fat Boys break up, and now this.
See, the thing is, the actress in the picture has gorgeous curly hair. And you can bet she got a great cut and spent a lot of time getting her curls to look like that. Normal girls have to deal with their curls on their own and on a budget. My natural hair is extremely curly and thick, and I wore it that way for 20 years. I got a chemical straightening treatment 4 months ago and couldn't be happier with the results. Instead of having to wake up and beg my hair to be good with gels and mousses, I just get up and go.I even wear my hair down all the time, which is something I never felt comfortale doing when it was curly. Straight hair is much more practical for an active lifestyle. So for me, getting my hair straightened certainly wasn't like curing a disease. But it WAS an investment that makes me feel more confident about how I look and saves me a lot of time, energy, and stress that would otherwise be spent on my hair.
I would love, love LOVE if someone (I'm talking to you scientists) would figure out a way to make my thick, tangely, straight hair into curls that would actually stay. *sigh* It's my dream...
I'll admit it, the idea of this intrigues me. As a girl with naturally thick, curly hair, I would love to just roll out of bed, run a brush through my hair, and go on about my day. To make my curls look good, I have to work hard, hard, hard at it. And I'm lazy and would much rather sleep in instead of fighting with my natural texture every morning. I can't be the only one.
@alotlikelo: I went with dreadlocks and I don't want to look back. It's so much easier for me, and my hair locks up well. It takes a lot of work, but I prefer it to wearing my hair loose.
I get crap from people who say I should "embrace my natural hair" and not straighten/curl it, but it just does not look attractive when it's left to air-dry. It looks like I've been rolling in a gutter. If there's a non-horrible way to permanently straighten my hair, I'll take it.
@SocialAnimal: I also can't wear my hair in its normal state-it would be a frizzy, poufy mess. I have spent years experimenting with products that will tame my curls without giving me breakouts around my hairline and that won't leave my hair feeling greasy. I discovered that conditioning my hair every day and washing two or three times a week really helps tame the frizzies, and helps my hair hold its curl better. But of course, the texture of curly hair differs in everyone, and I'm not sure whether that would work for frizzy/non curly hair. Also, I love pixie cuts, but sadly, I will never be able to get one due to the texture of my hair.
@the dodo, the cuckoo, and the nene: See, I have fine hair, so if I put in conditioner or products to tame the frizzy waves, I get greasy, string hair instead. From hours 24 to 28 after I wash my hair, it looks good. Other than that, it is a mess.
errggh. I can't read this. As a young girl with lots of freckles and curly, frizzy red hair I grew up being constantly shamed by my peers for having "wild, unkempt, dirty, messy, ugly, etc" hair even though I took very good care of it.
I've finally come to realize that I LOVE my curly hair, even if it is a huge hassle (esp since I love swimming at the beach too) and I get tons of compliments on it now that curly hair is starting to come back into fashion, but every day I continue to see media that tells me that curly hair is ugly or dirty and needs to be "cured" with expensive devices or damaging treatments or that women with curly hair are somehow more crazy or messy or less organized.
I'm really starting to wonder if a lot of the scorn directed at those with curly hair is an effort to shame them for daring to show that they are any ethnicity other than white or, if they are considered "white," to shame them for being "the wrong kind of white" or "not white enough."
@knbfay: In keeping with your last point: I'm like, vampire-pale, and when I was younger I routinely got asked if I was mixed based on my curly hair. Sometimes in an accusatory tone, sometimes in an inclusive (don't know how to word that better, there were a lot of identity issues at my school and for many of my black friends it was the highest compliment to tell me they considered me black) way, but often enough that I actually went home and asked my mom if it could be the case. So yes, I think a lot of people see curly as "ethnic", for good or ill.
@knbfay: I always straightened my curly hair because I thought only straight hair was really beautiful. I'm not white, and just about every woman of my ethnicity who's considered "beautiful" wears her hair straight. I was shocked by all the compliments I got from both sexes when I started wearing my hair curly. I've started to really like it too.
I've had stick straight hair ever since I was a kid. All I had to do was blowdry and voila - perfectly straight.
I recently went off birth control (about a month and a half ago), and just noticed that I've got wavy hair underneath at the base of my head! (I don't know if I just hadn't noticed before? - but that's highly unlikely - I look at my hair everyday when I blowdry it - it's ALWAYS been perfectly straight)
If I move away all my straight hair from the top of my head, underneath, it's wavy. I can pet my hair and feel all the waves underneath. It's fucking annoying as hell, because it's not like it's wavy all over, so I can't do anything with it. I don't want to buy a straightner just for the back of my damn head.
What gives? Is it the hormones? Why now?
I hate it. It's given me a lot of aggravation because I keep trying to comb the shit out of it and blowdry when it's wet - and it helps some - but still, it's there.
Any ideas? I mean, I thought you either get straight hair, curly hair, or wavy hair - not this weird mess I have now.
@crazy_lady: No, I have kind of a curly/wavy/straight combination that is the bane of my existence. It's in no way consistent, and some parts are straight (right at the front, of course, only on one side).
I also have a giant clump of curlier hair at the bottom half of my head that's under a much straighter layer. Annoying!
@crazy_lady: I've heard that pregnancy can do weird things to hair texture, though I'm not sure whether it's increased oil production or an actual change in the hair follicle. Since your body thinks you were pregnant up until recently, courtesy of the pill, that may be what's going on.
@crazy_lady: Peoples' hair changes texture as they get older. If you notice, some kids that had silky straight hair magically got textured hair around puberty, and I think there's another such change circa the 20s-30s. My hair, sadly, is moving straight to my mom's frizzy flyaway territory. Except mine is also prematurely gray into the bargain.
I don't have any particular good advice except -- if it's "underneath" your hair, why worry about it? I have a remarkably laissez-faire attitude toward hair care myself.
@crazy_lady: I've heard that your hair texture changes a few times throughout your life. Perhaps you are in transition, and when the straight hair grows and gets cut off, it will all be curly?
@la.donna.pietra: See, I've heard that too...and on that account, I'm thinking about going back on again (I was going to sooner or later). Would be interesting to see if it goes away.
@Leucadia: See, I could understand if it was puberty, but damn it, I'm 24. It's just so strange to be happening now.
And, as you can see, I'm a a wee bit anal about perfection. It's underneath, but I know it's there. And if I don't do anything about it (i.e try to blowdry the shit out of it), then it looks super goofy. I've got a humpback. Lol.
@Lymed: Cool, if it looked nice...but it looks lame right now. Wonky hair.
I barely knew what to do with my straight hair...I'm the most incompetent person to deal with unruly hair.
And, I'm avoiding the hairdresser/stylist, because I've got a lack of funds right now. Which stinks, because they usually know what to do. You know how they instantaneously make hair look better? I want that.
@crazy_lady: Sexy Straight Hair is a great product for helping to straighten wavy hair. If that and a blow dryer don't do it for you, try a straightening iron. Although you don't want to iron every day. I have wavy hair and days I often wear it in a pony tail or just clipped up so that I don't have to deal with it.
@crazy_lady: I've actually bought it at Filene's basement. I've seen their products at drug stores, but I haven't been able to find the "straight" lately. So you may need to internet search.
@Leucadia: That happened to my cousin! She had beautiful ringlets, but when she was about 4, she got hold of some scissors and cut her on hair off, almost to the scalp. When it grew back, it was just kind of wavy. I don't know if cutting her hair off had anything to do with it, but her corkscrew curls disappeared completely, never to return.
I am still slightly bewildered--20 years after the '80s--to hear that straight hair is considered desirable by a large section of the population. Some part of my brain still equates "straight" with "limp and thin" and wants to rush out for a spiral perm, go to town on my bangs with a curling iron, and mousse myself into oblivion.
Can they use this discovery to help straight-hairs like me get some body and curls? I would pay for that. People think that because my hair is stick-straight I can just wash it and go. Ha. Not unless I want to have limp, street-urchin style locks. I would kill for wavy hair, for serious. At least then I could straighten it if I really wanted it straight. They have not made the hot roller or curling iron that can put a curl in my hair.
Hair - we all lose!
How about we CURE CANCER? It's all well and good that cosmetics companies are supporting genetic research by buying beauty-related technology -- but discoveries related to actual health issues so rarely get the same support.
@special_boots: Thank you. Yeah, I realized a flippant one-sentence gripe wouldn't getting across what I wanted to get across, which is that a lot of great findings go unsupported because they don't have obvious commercial applications. I work in the media, so it's not like I can't see the value in seemingly frivolous stuff, but I cover science and technology news -- and I can't tell you how many of the researchers I talk to mention how much easier it is to pursue research that drug or cosmetic companies can make money off of, or how many studies I see that nobody's following up on because the researchers have moved on to something more profitable. It's just frustrating to see that even as companies are pumping money into research that might bring us closer to a breakthrough in treating or curing serious illnesses, they're influencing people aware from other areas of study as well -- even though those areas of study aren't any less likely to bring us that big breakthrough.
The funding structure of scientific research can be extremely frustrating. As you point out, many companies (particularly the big drug companies) do put a lot of money into research that's relevant to serious illnesses. But, of course, even there, the drug companies' priorities are influencing the direction of the research -- when serious illnesses are exactly the areas of research that should be most free from bias.
That said, my boyfriend works in grants administration at the National Institutes of Health, so I know very well that a whole damn lot of money also goes to research that is determined to be good and valuable by teams of Ph.D. scientists.
In our capitalist society, it's inevitable that a staggering amount of money will go to research that seems pretty silly. But even silly science is extensively peer-reviewed, and may end up contributing to the greater body of scientific knowledge in ways we can't predict (as well as ways we can, such as this finding's potential forensic application).
In any case, I'm so glad you decided to expand on your earlier comment, because what you've said here makes a lot of sense.
I wouldn't have a problem with taking a pill to make my curly hair straight -- provided its effects weren't permanent. Given that hair grows so slowly, of course, it'd be a several-year commitment, but I'd really enjoy getting to spend some time with straight hair without the hassle -- and damage to my hair -- of a straightening iron.
And could we-the-commenters maybe stop bringing up cancer and AIDS every time we read about some more frivolous application of science? It seems to me like all genetic research contributes to the greater body of important scientific knowledge -- and as for partnering with a major cosmetics company, how exactly do people think all this research gets paid for?
What's more, it's absurd to imply that every scientist ought to devote her life to curing deadly diseases. Science has innumerable applications, and it's as ludicrous to hold all scientists responsible for solving the world's ten biggest problems (as determined by who?) as it would be to mandate that I study science instead of English because I'm good at both and science is more important.
@special_boots: Agreed. I would also add that many frivolous applications of drugs are actually failed attempts at cures for non frivolous ailments. Just look at Latisse, it was originally developed to treat glaucoma and now it is just treating us all to never ending Brooke Shields commercials and nightmares of stained lids and eyes turned brown!
After many years struggling with the fact that I will never be able to have a pixie cut or even short hair (without having to straighten it) I have come to terms with my curls. They are a part of me and I love them. There is nothing wrong with my hair!
But, should I get the urge to have smooth hair for a few days, I turn to my trusty flatiron. It works wonders, even on my corkscrew curls.
@the dodo, the cuckoo, and the nene: I'm the same way. It took a good 25 years, but I've finally grown to love my curls. But sometimes I still prefer to wear my hair straight and I'd pay good money for a miracle straightener.
@Twizzgirl: Yeah, I just don't like the idea of chemically messing with my hair. Maybe if it was a temporary thing, like those semi permanent hair dyes. Then perhaps I'd do it, because it takes way too long for me to straighten my hair by myself, and those Japanese hair straightening treatments are way too expensive.
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Also, when I had hair down to my waist, people kept touching it. Don't touch my hair; I don't know where your hands have been.
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It's really disturbing! It really bothers me that these men see me, not as a normal human being just like them, but as a "type" in their sick genre book of women to jack off to.
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I typically dislike the people that grope my hair, but I was in a good mood last week and didn't really mind. When they do annoy me, however, I find discussing the last time I shampooed will make them stop quickly. (I am a firm believer in only shampooing my hair when it is oily, which is about once every 2 weeks).
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I find no one wants to touch dreadlocks. It's fabulous for me. They assume I never wash or comb my hair, which is, in fact, not true! I like your method, though. If I ever cut these things off (and I probably will one day), I will borrow this.
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But I did find out that my current BF has a thing for redheads. He told me after we had been dating for over a year. I told him that he is lucky he didn't say anything earlier, as I probably would've dumped him based on that alone.
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I get crap from people who say I should "embrace my natural hair" and not straighten/curl it, but it just does not look attractive when it's left to air-dry. It looks like I've been rolling in a gutter. If there's a non-horrible way to permanently straighten my hair, I'll take it.
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I've finally come to realize that I LOVE my curly hair, even if it is a huge hassle (esp since I love swimming at the beach too) and I get tons of compliments on it now that curly hair is starting to come back into fashion, but every day I continue to see media that tells me that curly hair is ugly or dirty and needs to be "cured" with expensive devices or damaging treatments or that women with curly hair are somehow more crazy or messy or less organized.
I'm really starting to wonder if a lot of the scorn directed at those with curly hair is an effort to shame them for daring to show that they are any ethnicity other than white or, if they are considered "white," to shame them for being "the wrong kind of white" or "not white enough."
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I recently went off birth control (about a month and a half ago), and just noticed that I've got wavy hair underneath at the base of my head! (I don't know if I just hadn't noticed before? - but that's highly unlikely - I look at my hair everyday when I blowdry it - it's ALWAYS been perfectly straight)
If I move away all my straight hair from the top of my head, underneath, it's wavy. I can pet my hair and feel all the waves underneath. It's fucking annoying as hell, because it's not like it's wavy all over, so I can't do anything with it. I don't want to buy a straightner just for the back of my damn head.
What gives? Is it the hormones? Why now?
I hate it. It's given me a lot of aggravation because I keep trying to comb the shit out of it and blowdry when it's wet - and it helps some - but still, it's there.
Any ideas? I mean, I thought you either get straight hair, curly hair, or wavy hair - not this weird mess I have now.
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I also have a giant clump of curlier hair at the bottom half of my head that's under a much straighter layer. Annoying!
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I don't have any particular good advice except -- if it's "underneath" your hair, why worry about it? I have a remarkably laissez-faire attitude toward hair care myself.
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And, as you can see, I'm a a wee bit anal about perfection. It's underneath, but I know it's there. And if I don't do anything about it (i.e try to blowdry the shit out of it), then it looks super goofy. I've got a humpback. Lol.
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I barely knew what to do with my straight hair...I'm the most incompetent person to deal with unruly hair.
And, I'm avoiding the hairdresser/stylist, because I've got a lack of funds right now. Which stinks, because they usually know what to do. You know how they instantaneously make hair look better? I want that.
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I call it "Poodle Perm Dysphoria Syndrome."
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Hair - we all lose!
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There's a lot of money in "actual health issues" as well.
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The funding structure of scientific research can be extremely frustrating. As you point out, many companies (particularly the big drug companies) do put a lot of money into research that's relevant to serious illnesses. But, of course, even there, the drug companies' priorities are influencing the direction of the research -- when serious illnesses are exactly the areas of research that should be most free from bias.
That said, my boyfriend works in grants administration at the National Institutes of Health, so I know very well that a whole damn lot of money also goes to research that is determined to be good and valuable by teams of Ph.D. scientists.
In our capitalist society, it's inevitable that a staggering amount of money will go to research that seems pretty silly. But even silly science is extensively peer-reviewed, and may end up contributing to the greater body of scientific knowledge in ways we can't predict (as well as ways we can, such as this finding's potential forensic application).
In any case, I'm so glad you decided to expand on your earlier comment, because what you've said here makes a lot of sense.
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And could we-the-commenters maybe stop bringing up cancer and AIDS every time we read about some more frivolous application of science? It seems to me like all genetic research contributes to the greater body of important scientific knowledge -- and as for partnering with a major cosmetics company, how exactly do people think all this research gets paid for?
What's more, it's absurd to imply that every scientist ought to devote her life to curing deadly diseases. Science has innumerable applications, and it's as ludicrous to hold all scientists responsible for solving the world's ten biggest problems (as determined by who?) as it would be to mandate that I study science instead of English because I'm good at both and science is more important.
Geez.
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Says the person whose thesis changed 12 times in the course of 2 years.
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But, should I get the urge to have smooth hair for a few days, I turn to my trusty flatiron. It works wonders, even on my corkscrew curls.
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