I would like for the next women who gets object to scream "1, 2, 3, all eyes on me!" It worked like a charm when I was in elementary school, and some members of the House seem to think that's where they still are. #politricks
Just for grins I went to MSNBC to see if they had anything about this story. They don't. But they do have a neat little link to an article by Newsweek called, "Why women can't resist that cookie!" (Emphasis mine.) Can I get a "Seriously?!?" #politricks
"Funny" story...a young Republican fellow tried to engage me in political conversation on facebook regarding my stance on medical marijuana. By that I mean he attempted to invalidate my argument by making personal attacks regarding my intelligence, profile picture and use of complete sentences. He did not win. Also, I am a bad American.
How is it that in a Democratically controlled Congress with a sitting Democratic President that... this happens and every motherfucking news outlet isn't outraged?
I'm starting to feel like today isn't just about the Stupak (or as Latoya said earlier, Stupid Shits, oh how apt) Amendment. This... THIS is what makes the Stupid Shits Amendment possible. #politricks
@first man: Outside of Jezebel and other feminist forums/groups, where exactly are these pissed off women? Because of where her political affiliations lie, my mom would think this was appropriate or even funny. #politricks
@Myrna_Minkoff: I have had men just come up and start talking over me when I'm talking to someone that they want to talk to.
Example: five minutes ago, was in a conversation with a colleague. Male coworker comes up while I am talking and just starts talking to him, talking over me. It was like nothing that I could possibly be saying could at all matter as much as what a man could say. #politricks
@morninggloria: What I particularly like is a variation on that: when I say or write something very clearly -- and I know I am being clear, since I write for a living, so it's literally my job to mean what I say -- and the male respondent replies to what he's decided I mean, not what I've actually said.
For example, a little while ago I was discussing a statutory rape charge on an online forum I frequent. I took the position that however dumb we thought the law was (it was being upheld to punish some 18-year-olds who allegedly had sex with a 16-year-old), if it was on the books and the defendants were found guilty, they should be punished. A guy responded to me, going off about how it was ridiculous that I thought the guys should be punished to the fullest extent of the law, that the prosecutor should use discretion, etc. And this is a forum populated by pretty smart people, in that 99% of them are attending or have graduated from very good colleges.
But yes, I've gotten firm (some would say rather hostile) about reiterating that I'm speaking if a man talks over me. #politricks
@Myrna_Minkoff: Aw hell, I work with a couple of men like that. I finally snapped a couple of weeks ago and said, "nope still talking," when one of them interrupted me, he interrupted me again, and I repeated the fact that I was talking. It went on for awhile but by the time he finally let me finish my sentence two co-workers, one female and one male applauded me loudly. Of course I had to be all wacky and comedic about it to keep from hurting his manhood, but it was a semi-win. #politricks
@Steve Holt's Mother Part Deux: I have tried that technique -- and I got reprimanded for not being "collegial" enough. Same boss also cited me not smiling enough in my annual review.
So now I'm smiling plenty, and sending a lot of resumes. I'm willing to fight the good fight, but sometimes, you have to admit an environment is toxic and just walk away. #politricks
@MissMollyKate: Another version: I present a very clear, well-thought idea. No one in meeting bites. A minute later, a guy presents the exact same idea. Suddenly, it's brilliant and must be implemented immediately. #politricks
Congress is hopeless. The hateful and regressive minority party won't work with the spineless majority party that isn't even really the majority except in name, and there's no one really trying to stop it or change the status quo.
I have never been so depressed about our nation's legislative branch as I am now. #politricks
"Master supression techniques". From wikipedia: " were a framework articulated by the Norwegian social psychologist and feminist Berit Ås to describe five means by which women are or were subjugated in Western patriarchical societies. Master suppression techniques are strategies of social manipulation by which a dominant group maintains such a position in an (established or unexposed) hierarchy."
There is
1 Making Invisible
2 Ridicule
3 Withhold information
4 Double Bind
5 Heap blame/put to shame
The story goes that she realised during a meeting how men behaved in certain ways to undermine women speakers. So she identified five techniques, assigned each to a finger. When someone was subjected to a supression technique, those around her who saw that would hold up the corresponding finger to show that they saw it, and as support. These techniques are insidious in that they are not very obvious and easily explained away. If you ask someone "why do you always get coffee when I start my presentation?" or "why did you go through this in the car on the way to the meeting where I couldn't have my say because I took my own car?" it's too easy brush off. And one instance may not make much difference, but it's rarely one instance, most of the time it's part of a larger pattern.
Btw, this is not just men/women, it's also young/old, imigrants/non-immigrants, and others #politricks
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Oh, now I see why they do this- it's pretty fun! #politricks
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Republicans. They hate women. #politricks
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I'm starting to feel like today isn't just about the Stupak (or as Latoya said earlier, Stupid Shits, oh how apt) Amendment. This... THIS is what makes the Stupid Shits Amendment possible. #politricks
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Also, the Democrats are spineless. #politricks
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If I were a cry-er, I would be crying. I'm more of a do-er, and I'm trying to think of something to do other than stew in my own juices. #politricks
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I shouldn't be surprised that this isn't getting more press. But I am.
Thank you Latoya (and Jezebel) as always... #politricks
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And then they wonder why I get so "bitchy." #politricks
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Example: five minutes ago, was in a conversation with a colleague. Male coworker comes up while I am talking and just starts talking to him, talking over me. It was like nothing that I could possibly be saying could at all matter as much as what a man could say. #politricks
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For example, a little while ago I was discussing a statutory rape charge on an online forum I frequent. I took the position that however dumb we thought the law was (it was being upheld to punish some 18-year-olds who allegedly had sex with a 16-year-old), if it was on the books and the defendants were found guilty, they should be punished. A guy responded to me, going off about how it was ridiculous that I thought the guys should be punished to the fullest extent of the law, that the prosecutor should use discretion, etc. And this is a forum populated by pretty smart people, in that 99% of them are attending or have graduated from very good colleges.
But yes, I've gotten firm (some would say rather hostile) about reiterating that I'm speaking if a man talks over me. #politricks
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So now I'm smiling plenty, and sending a lot of resumes. I'm willing to fight the good fight, but sometimes, you have to admit an environment is toxic and just walk away. #politricks
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I have never been so depressed about our nation's legislative branch as I am now. #politricks
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There is
1 Making Invisible
2 Ridicule
3 Withhold information
4 Double Bind
5 Heap blame/put to shame
The story goes that she realised during a meeting how men behaved in certain ways to undermine women speakers. So she identified five techniques, assigned each to a finger. When someone was subjected to a supression technique, those around her who saw that would hold up the corresponding finger to show that they saw it, and as support. These techniques are insidious in that they are not very obvious and easily explained away. If you ask someone "why do you always get coffee when I start my presentation?" or "why did you go through this in the car on the way to the meeting where I couldn't have my say because I took my own car?" it's too easy brush off. And one instance may not make much difference, but it's rarely one instance, most of the time it's part of a larger pattern.
Btw, this is not just men/women, it's also young/old, imigrants/non-immigrants, and others #politricks