What's the appeal of a golden shower anyways, giving or receiving? I can understand if pee smelled like candy or something but alas it doesn't. I don't get the appeal of having someone's hot, smelly excretions on you or wanting to get it on someone. I just don't...
@JerseyGrrrl: haha, same here. especially if you're young. It's like there's this pressure for women to be up for anything sexually because we're liberal, not sexual repressed blah, blah. Call me a prude if you like but noone will be peeing on me.
@Eric Northman is MINE (nee Sookie Stackhouse): Some people get off on being mastered, being shamed, being debased - it really turns them on. It's just the way they're wired up. Sexual fantasies don't always make a lot of sense :)
I had a roommate that didn't understand the concept of golden showers, and she was confused by that one Sex and The City episode because she didn't understand why Carrie wouldn't take a shower with that politician.
I'd like to hear some more from women over 40 on this. No offense to the younger women here, but being in your 20's or even 30's does not have the social stigma that comes with 40 and beyond. At 42 I feel like the same person I was at 16, and probably I'll feel the same when I'm 90. It's frustrating to think that people will have a whole new set of assumptions to heap on me as I age. When I was in my 30's I had a close friendship with a woman in her 60's. We'd go shoe shopping and talk about guys and our bicycles. The age difference wasn't ignored, but it wasn't a factor. This is how I think aging should be.
Now that I'm back in the job market, ageism is already effecting me. Ads for graphic designers more often than not contain the words "young" or "youth". For example calling for someone who can "fit in well with the youth market". Getting a job at one of these places when you're over 30 is hard enough, but when you're over 40, fat chance. Maybe if you were at a management level. Maybe. It's not legal for them to ask you your age, but they can ask your graduation date, which puts most people in a pretty narrow age range - and prevent you from getting that first interview. And so, I consider lying about my age nearly every day.
I everyone should do whatever they want. I even know some men who don't want to say their ages...because of the ageism in our world. To protect careers, to avoid being pigeonholed, what is it my business if people are worried about that important stuff? I dodn;t think jezebel was about telling women what to do!! I'm 44 and since I'm a therapist and age and wisdom go together, I tell. Its a little weird with dating, but I can deal...
Can we just discuss for a minute how Patty on Millionaire Matchmaker as constantly hung up on the age thing? She always forbids the guys from asking how old the women are, but the women can ask the guys. She is the anti feminist in my book.
@athenasadidas: Reading this thread, I thought of her too!
Although I think she fans the flames of fear in both men and women in order to line her pockets (and create drama for her show), to her credit, some of her clients are incredibly ageist, and I think they do reflect the reality that a lot of guys feel the same way.
@lowkeylo: true on the ageism count, and some of the people are assholes, but she still seems to make a bigger deal about numbers than is necessary. It's probably to increase ratings though.
@Mrs. Jones: I feel like the timing and circumstances have to be right and stars need to align, but I personally would not be offended if someone asked my age and hopefully my attitude will not change as I get older.
My mom tried to lie about her age, but she has a bitchy friend who suddenly whipped out a notebook in which she'd written down the birth dates, graduation years, etc. of every woman she knows. (I'm not kidding. She carries it with her at all times. She's nuts.) My mom shaved one year off and the friend was instantly grilling her with, "I thought you were 51! When did you graduate high school? What year did you start college?"
My mom is easily stressed and bad at math. Even math that involves just subtracting one. She didn't try to lie about her age again.
I lie sometimes by accident, but only because I forget how old I am and say the first age that comes to mind rather than look like a complete loon who doesn't know how old she is.
"We might like to go back to our lives when our bodies were a little different and we could wear belts, but otherwise, in terms of life experience, women are finding that their 50s and their 60s and even their 70s are a very exciting and authentic time."
Fair enough. But I sense the sting of defensiveness in the whole "what 50-year-old in her right mind would ever want to be 30 again?!!!!" mentality. The only age bracket that I wish I could have skipped was junior high/high school. The rest has been a steady upward trajectory to my current 32 years. Maybe I'll feel empowered at 50 and beyond. Maybe not. But can't we all just agree that there is good and bad to be found in any age bracket? Do women really need to compete with each other over who is most fulfilled at which life stage? I mean, I don't know what was boring or inauthentic about, say, my 20s. It was what it was.
@PhillyLass: I am 55 and wouldn't mind being 30 again. I wouldn't want to be in my 20s again because I think that was the most confusing and difficult time in my life. But I wouldn't mind having a bunch of extra years to do more and have fun in. Not at all!
It's not that I lie, but I don't mention my age if at all possible at school, because I'm a wee embarrassed to be in classes with a bunch of 19/20/21 year-olds while I am...26.
@aloof_mcbeal: Please, I went back and I just turned 30. I know how you feel, though. I make it a point to say I'm working on my second degree because it's just odd when you start catching up to your professor's age.
Oh oh! And my friend who is a 58-ish year old grandmother but is into the whole BDSM scene and dresses like she was 25 (fairly successfully) is forever springing her age on her paramours -- but only after they've had sex.
"So, ever fucked a grandmother?" she'll ask, all innocent.
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I had a roommate that didn't understand the concept of golden showers, and she was confused by that one Sex and The City episode because she didn't understand why Carrie wouldn't take a shower with that politician.
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Now that I'm back in the job market, ageism is already effecting me. Ads for graphic designers more often than not contain the words "young" or "youth". For example calling for someone who can "fit in well with the youth market". Getting a job at one of these places when you're over 30 is hard enough, but when you're over 40, fat chance. Maybe if you were at a management level. Maybe. It's not legal for them to ask you your age, but they can ask your graduation date, which puts most people in a pretty narrow age range - and prevent you from getting that first interview. And so, I consider lying about my age nearly every day.
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Reading this thread, I thought of her too!
Although I think she fans the flames of fear in both men and women in order to line her pockets (and create drama for her show), to her credit, some of her clients are incredibly ageist, and I think they do reflect the reality that a lot of guys feel the same way.
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My mom is easily stressed and bad at math. Even math that involves just subtracting one. She didn't try to lie about her age again.
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Fair enough. But I sense the sting of defensiveness in the whole "what 50-year-old in her right mind would ever want to be 30 again?!!!!" mentality. The only age bracket that I wish I could have skipped was junior high/high school. The rest has been a steady upward trajectory to my current 32 years. Maybe I'll feel empowered at 50 and beyond. Maybe not. But can't we all just agree that there is good and bad to be found in any age bracket? Do women really need to compete with each other over who is most fulfilled at which life stage? I mean, I don't know what was boring or inauthentic about, say, my 20s. It was what it was.
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"So, ever fucked a grandmother?" she'll ask, all innocent.
"No! Gross!" etc, you can imagine.
"Oh yes you have...."
I love my friend.
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