There are good and bad stepmothers, because there are good and bad people in the world. (There are both good and bad bio parents as well). I have a friend who has been an amazing stepmother, coming into the picture ten years ago when the girl was just an infant. The interesting thing is that although she is now divorced from the girl's father (he initiated the divorce while she was pregnant, for many complex and weird reasons), she retains a close relationship with the stepdaughter as a parent-type-figure and the mother of the little girl's half-brother.
I'm in a relationship with my wonderful boyfriend and his almost-five-year-old daughter, who was 2 when we started dating. My relationship with her is easy and uncomplicated, since as "Daddy's Friend" I don't view myself as an authority figure - and he steps in if she's being obnoxious to me or anyone else. However, I often wonder how it would change if we got married or moved in together and I was there all the time - how much say I would have over things in my own home, and how much interaction I would have to have with his ex-wife (they have 50/50 custody)?
My greatest fear is ending up in just the kind of disenfranchised position you describe in this post - living with a child whose upbringing I have little say in, being subject to the whims of a first wife in scheduling day-to-day activities, and stuffing it all inside because adults aren't supposed to make themselves a higher priority over children - experiencing all the crap stuff about parenthood without the solace of having a modicum of control over the situation, or getting half the credit of a bio mom (my friend who has been a great stepmom for years was hurt every Mother's Day when nobody thought to recognize the fact that she worked long hours as a Girl Scout leader, soccer team mom and school volunteer for her stepdaughter).
I'm sure there *are* situations where the kids are the ones who are powerless and disenfranchised, but it's easy for a doting father and a stepmother/new partner who wants to "do the right thing" to place her needs at the bottom of the list, and for her to deny her need for attention and control over her living situation. I love my boyfriend dearly, and for now everything is great, but these are the things I worry about. #mommywars
I'm sure this could be true for many blended families, but I knew where I stood in mine when my dad told me, during one of the fights I had with my stepmother when I was a grade-schooler, that he had no problem choosing my stepmother over me.
A lot of authority over my life was immediately ceded to her, with little regard for the way it made me feel. I was expected to treat her exactly as if she was my mother, because, as I was repeatedly told, she thinks of me as if I was one of her own children, despite mountains of evidence that she was far more permissive with her biological children than she was with me, and that she treated me in ways that could be downright abusive. I not only picked up on the fact that her words were not matching up with her actions, but I also resented the fact that she was trying to slot into a position that, in my mind, was already occupied.
Don't get me wrong. Now that I am an adult, I have a lot more understanding for what my stepmom was dealing with, and I actually love her a whole lot and we get along really wonderfully now, but when I was a kid the merging of the families was very, very traumatic for me to deal with. It's something I've only recently been able to admit to myself, because I know how important and necessary the divorce and my parents' subsequent remarriages were, and part of me feels that by admitting not everything was kosher with the step-parentals, that I am somehow providing fodder for those who would say that divorce is unacceptable for couples who have children. I guess the only way I have been able to square my overarching ideals with my personal experience is to realize that the integration of stepparents into my life could have been handled in ways that were much healthier and more respectful. But hey, it's not like there is a handbook for any of this shit, so I can't blame anyone too much for the things that went wrong. #mommywars
I love my stepmom. I call her by her first name and I'm not that close to her, but I think she's just the bee's knees. She and my father got married only 4 months after meeting, and she had a 2-year-old son. They've been together for 6 years now, and she's always been just great. I wish she felt more comfortable talking about her real feelings - she's always got a smile pasted on. I know she gets frustrated with things and gets upset, but she is not one to show it.
She tried playing DDR with us, listened to us talk about video games and anime, and helps mediate arguments with my dad.
We tease her and call her "the evil stepmother", but we don't mean it at all. #mommywars
I'm a stepmother. It's disheartening to see so many posts about "evil stepmothers." My stepkids are pre-teens but I've known them since they were pre-schoolers. Hold your judgment until you are in a similar situation. I have never felt so powerless as I do being a stepparent. I'm a lawyer, so it's not like I'm a shrinking violet over here. You take on someone else's children without having a say in how they're parented. They bring in baggage from the failed marriage (I recognize it's not their fault, but it's still there). In my case, bio mom has her own issues, and so do the kids. The daughter gets no positive reinforcement unless she's winning at something (gymnastics, perfect grades at school, science fair) so she's a black hole of emotional need. The son is being taught that possessions are more important than people or feelings. He is always asking how much money we have and why we don't have a housekeeper. My dear husband is devoted to them and ends up completely focusing on them when they are with us. Who's left out of the equation? The other adult in the house-me.
It's no garden path, ladies. Give that a thought before you slag your stepmother. She has to deal with you, all your baggage, all your mother's baggage, and she very likely has no real power in the relationship. So maybe that's why you see these bizarre behaviors. For the record, I try very hard to be respectful of my husband's time with his children, and I don't do some of the over-the-top things cited here. But it's tough. No question. #mommywars
@Never_Nude: That sounds incredibly rough. My heart goes out to you.... I think I'd feel a degree of anger at husband if I were you, even though you know it's misplaced.
I know how difficult it is to bite my tongue about the in-laws' behavior (especially father-in-law), so it must be much harder here. I've honestly never thought about this angle before; I don't have a step parent. But in now, in my late 20s, my parents have split, so who knows, right? #mommywars
@Never_Nude: Hey, I'm with you. I can't even begin to tell you how many times I've said something seemingly innocuous only to have it twisted and thrown back in my face MONTHS after I've said it. Explaining my meaning does no good. And then I get the phone call from bio mom about how evil I am for having upset HER child, no matter what I meant. Again, explaining myself only gets me a reaction of "are you accusing him/her of being a liar!?" I understand that I cannot understand what the kids are going through, but they do begin to realize how easy it is to play parents against each other for their benefit. It's a fine line. #mommywars
@History Major: Aw, thanks. It's nice to hear that. No kids together; I have an 18-year-old daughter then his kids are 13 and 11. My hubby is awesome, and he tries very hard to be a good dad. #mommywars
@JerseyGrrrl: No doubt, we've had our share of "discussions" about their visits. And, things have improved. I hope they continue to do so-we'll see- #mommywars
My stepmother is a wonderful woman and a very important person in my life. She is not my mother and will never replace my mother. But she is a dear friend. #mommywars
I think it's only further exacerbated when the stepmother doesn't punish you directly, but goes through your father. My stepmother used to pull that bullshit all the time. If she had a problem, I wish she would have said it to my face instead of going to my dad who she knew was a rageaholic at the time (now much more mellow, thankfully). X says you left the light on, X says you didn't hang up your towel, etc.
She now always says that she thinks we got on so well because she never tried to be a parent. She was, though, just a passive-agressive one. We got on so well because she was this super feministl; I had never met a woman so independent before her. I adored her, so I let go of the fact that she wasn't confrontational when she needed to be.
Sorry if that's too much family baggage to air. I'm sure I'm not the only one with a stepmom who just to parent by proxy.
@mfnher: I think its interesting that you blame her, even though it was your dad with the anger issues. I'm also not sure referring the parenting to the bio parent is passive-aggressive.
I'm not saying you don't have legit reasons to dislike her, but the examples you give are a little can't win for losing. #mommywars
@clevernamehere: I absolutely adore my stepmother. I do blame my father for how he was, but we have gotten past our issues. The way I see it is, if you are going to be my family, you can't control the communication in such a way as to assure that it's only ever positive. It wasn't issues that required disciplining, but issues that required a conversation. Plus, it's still the same way. When my husband and I stay at her home (she's the owner of their primary residence, they keep all money separate), it's still my father that has a conversation with us about X is upset that we didn't recycle something properly. I don't know, I just think it's incredily weird that even after being someone's stepmother for 16 years she can't get it together to air a grievance you're having. Of course, I may be too close to the situation to accurately assess it. #mommywars
@mfnher: I get it, but I see people down thread complaining about the opposite- a stepmom who handled issues on her own. I'm not sure there is a perfect choice when it comes to stepparent relations. There are some obviously wrong one, but no really good ones. #mommywars
@mfnher: That makes a lot of sense. Especially remembering that (and there have been so many articles about this since the gay marriage debates began) marriage wasn't always about love and romance, it was about business. A widow with kids who married a widower with kids of his own would probably try to make sure her kids got more after he died than his did. And I know every generation sees itself as smarter and more progressive than the ones that came before it, but let's not project our norm onto the people of yesteryear. #mommywars
@clevernamehere: No doubt, it's probably a pretty difficult role. All things considered, I consider myself incredibly lucky. Plus, she makes my dad ridiculously happy, even after all this time. I'm appreciative of her advice over the years, but the happiness she's brought my dad will be the thing I love about her the most. #mommywars
@mfnher: Maybe she didn't feel like it was her place to say something directly? I don't know, but stepmothers can be in a delicate situation where they're taking care of their stepchildren, but can't really make decisions about their education, since they know that they have to defer to the "real" parents. They live with the father, but there is also a mother in the background, who is the one who shares the legitimate authority over the kids with her ex-husband.
Plus, maybe she didn't want to expose herself to the standard "you're not my mother" answer that stepparents often get when they give an order or address a problematic behaviour, and thought that talking to your father, i.e. the person actually responsible for you in that household, was the best way to deal with you without overstepping her bounds.
I often heard friends complain about one of their stepparents trying to act like a parent and giving orders (and they were quite disdainful about that, with a "who does she/he think she/he is" tone to their complaints) and it's possible that your stepmother went too far in the other direction by trying to avoid a common problem. I've never been involved with a man who already has children, but if I were, I certainly wouldn't feel free to directly correct their behaviour and I'd probably consider that it is their father's job. #mommywars
@clevernamehere: I see what you mean - leaving parenting to the more authoritative parent figure seems sensible. But the things mentioned (pick up towel, turn off light) aren't really major parenting issues; they're minor household issues. Avoiding direct communication because of a risk of conflict heads towards passive-aggressivesness, because having the message rerouted through someone else feels hostile. #mommywars
@jollydolly: @Arginusae: It did feel hostile. Understandably. grounding was always left to my father and mother to decide, but little stuff? Although, to Arginusae's point, I probably would have bitched about it either way. It probably is one of those damned if you do damned if you don't situations. #mommywars
@jollydolly: I think both methods have their flaws. I actually think the bigger problem with letting dad handle it is that so many dads won't say "You need to pick up your towels" they'll say "Mary says you need to pick up your towels." They don't want to be the bad guy, even if stepmom is trying to let him be the primary parent.
I think everyone who spends time around kids they are not bio parents of sometimes has to go to the bioparents to have them handle something. I'm not a stepmom and I don't have one, but I can see why you wouldn't want to do the correcting yourself, particularly since mfner seems to have been at least a tween when stepmom arrived. #mommywars
My stepmother was a conniving c-word who just used my dad for money (still uses my dad for money even though he kicked her to the side). I disliked her ever since I was little. I don't think a step-parent could ever love you the way a real parent can love you (i'm excluding people with crap parents here). She tried to ruin my family's reationship with each other. My brother's relationship with my dad was the worst for a while. She would hate it when my dad gave us money and would always ask for money for her spawn whenever we did. It was a terrible situation.
Personally, I have met very few people who actually like their stepmothers. But, I'm sure there are some stepmothers who are wonderful that has just not been my experience. #mommywars
@Evie Havok: I love my six year old stepdaughter as if she were my own, and aside from meeting her father she is the best damn thing that has ever happened to me. She is literally my shining star. #mommywars
@Evie Havok: While I don't have an easy relationship with my own stepmother, I'm sure that many stepparents love their step-children greatly. Adoptive parents are capable of loving their children- why wouldn't stepparents be the same? #mommywars
@NellMood: This is why I phrased what I said as an opinion not a fact. I think I was projecting my own experiences into what I said. It's harder when a stepmother brings in children from another marriage into your family. You know you're not going to be preferred over her children. #mommywars
@Evie Havok: As I said below, my dad married my stepmom after I'd moved out of home, so I don't have the experience of growing up with a stepparent or stepsiblings. I respect your experiences (and I'm sorry they were so awful)- I just don't want to negate the experience of loving stepparents, who certainly exist. #mommywars
@Evie Havok: I have a step grandmother. I love her like she's my blood grandmother. She's been with my Pee-Paw since I was five. She's great and probably more in-tune with my sis and I than my Pee-Paw is because she is a woman. She's constantly saying, "Bob, they aren't little girls anymore, they're grown women." She also has really great taste in books, clothes, jewelry, home decor and food/wine. I feel like so many times she was there when crazy shit was going down with my Aunt that she was sort of like my sister and I in that we all have our opinions but being newer members of the family (so to speak) we don't get to voice those opinions. Now my Aunt hates her guts, but my Aunt is batshit. #mommywars
Some really interesting points in this piece...it's definitely made me think a little bit more since I'm biased by the fact I loathe my stepmother.
She won't let my dad communicate with me at all without her input, so she listens into phonecalls, reads emails and checks the mail just to make sure there is no privacy allowed. Essentially she's asking him to choose between us and I'm furious to have been put in that position, especially when she sends me abusive emails without him knowing. He tends to go with her wishes (probably for the easy life.)
She's very threatened by his relationship with me (but not my brother). There seems to be an oddly competitive feel which I know other stepdaughters have had with their stepmothers. Maybe the twisted feel comes from the fact she's only 10 years older than me? #mommywars
I don't know that these arguments are really relevant to the ORIGIN of the myth, as once upon a time, back when divorce was reallllllllly uncommon and dying in childbirth or of a cold was really common, stepmothers were most likely married to widowers who had no divorce-related guilt. And back then, childrearing was pretty much the woman's domain (even though the father had legal "ownership") so the stepmother would have had quite a lot of power and authority in the lives of the children
However, this could explain the perpetuation of the myth in modern culture #mommywars
Can we connect an archetype that is hundreds of years old and based on a time when stepmothers existed almost entirely when the mother died to today's society when stepmothers exist most often when the parents voluntarily split and the mother is still a part of the child's life?
The stepmother archetype from fairy tales existed at a time when women often died in child birth. So the existence of a stepmother could be a reminder that you are the reason your mother is dead. The evil stepmother may have been a way to memorialize the pure mother. Or perhaps it was a way to create a villain within the home. A child deals most often with parents as authority figures. It is easy to make a stepmother the villain because she does control a child's life, but it is not turning an actual mother or father into that villain. #mommywars
@Lymed: Fairy tale point entirely valid. However the "wicked stepmother" archetype predates the medieval/Renaissance/later origins of most of the collected folktalkes. Greco-Roman popular thought is also wicked into wicked stepmothers, and our sources stem from the elite in most cases -- especially the use of the "wicked stepmother" motif in legal cases. Divorce was common in these societies, so these stepmothers often replaced living mothers. The threat they posed was less about emotion and more about inheritance. Your stepmom has her own kids with your dad, wants those kids to inherit, so she poisons you. In my mind, the legacy of this kind of "wicked stepmother" lingers on into the folk traditions represented by fairy tales, especially those involving wealth/status issues like Cinderella.
There was a book studying this recently (in Classics we still think of the 90s as recent) called _Ancient Stepmothers: Myth, Misogyny and Reality_ by a woman named Patricia Watson. #mommywars
My parents divorced when I was in college, and my mother initiated it. I think the divorce was the right choice for both of my parents, and everyone is happier now, but I still can't totally accept my step-mother, who's been married to my father for 3 and half years. She's extremely nice, very smart and interesting, but she still feels like an outsider. I'm sure a big part of that is the fact that we've never lived in the same house, and I live several thousand miles away from home so very rarely interact with her, but, I dunno...it's a hard relationship to negotiate. I'm glad it's not something I had to navigate as a kid. #mommywars
@NellMood: My dad's a widower of several years and I can't bear any interaction with his girlfriend. The idea of him marrying her makes me break out in cold sweats. I'm sure she's a fine person, but I have absolutely no desire to get to know her for several reasons, the primary one being that I don't think she's good enough for my dad. I know I'm being irrational, but it's something so ingrained this idea that she will never measure up to my mom that I can't bring myself to interact with her.
Oh yeah, did I mention she and her daughters are joining us for Thanksgiving? This should be fun... #mommywars
@Ms.Moneypenny: Exactly- it's totally not rational, but even when you can acknowledge that it doesn't make the relationship any easier. Going home and seeing my stepmother there is proof that a door has closed in my life- I'm sure that's super cynical and melodramatic, and I'm such a whiner, I know, but it's weird to see someone's stuff in your house, in your mother's space. My dad is happy, and that's great, and my mom is happy too off in her world. That doesn't mean everything is easy, though. #mommywars
@Ms.Moneypenny: Just think, your kids get to have a grandmother figure. That will be great for them and your dad can live out his life with companionship which should make his golden years a little more golden. #mommywars
Didn't it originate with fairy tales, in a time when women often died in childbirth so stepmothers were very common? In the fairy tale setting, SOMEONE has to be evil to get the action started, and having it be the newcomer to the group makes some sense. #mommywars
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I'm in a relationship with my wonderful boyfriend and his almost-five-year-old daughter, who was 2 when we started dating. My relationship with her is easy and uncomplicated, since as "Daddy's Friend" I don't view myself as an authority figure - and he steps in if she's being obnoxious to me or anyone else. However, I often wonder how it would change if we got married or moved in together and I was there all the time - how much say I would have over things in my own home, and how much interaction I would have to have with his ex-wife (they have 50/50 custody)?
My greatest fear is ending up in just the kind of disenfranchised position you describe in this post - living with a child whose upbringing I have little say in, being subject to the whims of a first wife in scheduling day-to-day activities, and stuffing it all inside because adults aren't supposed to make themselves a higher priority over children - experiencing all the crap stuff about parenthood without the solace of having a modicum of control over the situation, or getting half the credit of a bio mom (my friend who has been a great stepmom for years was hurt every Mother's Day when nobody thought to recognize the fact that she worked long hours as a Girl Scout leader, soccer team mom and school volunteer for her stepdaughter).
I'm sure there *are* situations where the kids are the ones who are powerless and disenfranchised, but it's easy for a doting father and a stepmother/new partner who wants to "do the right thing" to place her needs at the bottom of the list, and for her to deny her need for attention and control over her living situation. I love my boyfriend dearly, and for now everything is great, but these are the things I worry about. #mommywars
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A lot of authority over my life was immediately ceded to her, with little regard for the way it made me feel. I was expected to treat her exactly as if she was my mother, because, as I was repeatedly told, she thinks of me as if I was one of her own children, despite mountains of evidence that she was far more permissive with her biological children than she was with me, and that she treated me in ways that could be downright abusive. I not only picked up on the fact that her words were not matching up with her actions, but I also resented the fact that she was trying to slot into a position that, in my mind, was already occupied.
Don't get me wrong. Now that I am an adult, I have a lot more understanding for what my stepmom was dealing with, and I actually love her a whole lot and we get along really wonderfully now, but when I was a kid the merging of the families was very, very traumatic for me to deal with. It's something I've only recently been able to admit to myself, because I know how important and necessary the divorce and my parents' subsequent remarriages were, and part of me feels that by admitting not everything was kosher with the step-parentals, that I am somehow providing fodder for those who would say that divorce is unacceptable for couples who have children. I guess the only way I have been able to square my overarching ideals with my personal experience is to realize that the integration of stepparents into my life could have been handled in ways that were much healthier and more respectful. But hey, it's not like there is a handbook for any of this shit, so I can't blame anyone too much for the things that went wrong. #mommywars
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She tried playing DDR with us, listened to us talk about video games and anime, and helps mediate arguments with my dad.
We tease her and call her "the evil stepmother", but we don't mean it at all. #mommywars
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It's no garden path, ladies. Give that a thought before you slag your stepmother. She has to deal with you, all your baggage, all your mother's baggage, and she very likely has no real power in the relationship. So maybe that's why you see these bizarre behaviors. For the record, I try very hard to be respectful of my husband's time with his children, and I don't do some of the over-the-top things cited here. But it's tough. No question. #mommywars
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I know how difficult it is to bite my tongue about the in-laws' behavior (especially father-in-law), so it must be much harder here. I've honestly never thought about this angle before; I don't have a step parent. But in now, in my late 20s, my parents have split, so who knows, right? #mommywars
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She now always says that she thinks we got on so well because she never tried to be a parent. She was, though, just a passive-agressive one. We got on so well because she was this super feministl; I had never met a woman so independent before her. I adored her, so I let go of the fact that she wasn't confrontational when she needed to be.
Sorry if that's too much family baggage to air. I'm sure I'm not the only one with a stepmom who just to parent by proxy.
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I'm not saying you don't have legit reasons to dislike her, but the examples you give are a little can't win for losing. #mommywars
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Plus, maybe she didn't want to expose herself to the standard "you're not my mother" answer that stepparents often get when they give an order or address a problematic behaviour, and thought that talking to your father, i.e. the person actually responsible for you in that household, was the best way to deal with you without overstepping her bounds.
I often heard friends complain about one of their stepparents trying to act like a parent and giving orders (and they were quite disdainful about that, with a "who does she/he think she/he is" tone to their complaints) and it's possible that your stepmother went too far in the other direction by trying to avoid a common problem. I've never been involved with a man who already has children, but if I were, I certainly wouldn't feel free to directly correct their behaviour and I'd probably consider that it is their father's job. #mommywars
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I think everyone who spends time around kids they are not bio parents of sometimes has to go to the bioparents to have them handle something. I'm not a stepmom and I don't have one, but I can see why you wouldn't want to do the correcting yourself, particularly since mfner seems to have been at least a tween when stepmom arrived. #mommywars
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Personally, I have met very few people who actually like their stepmothers. But, I'm sure there are some stepmothers who are wonderful that has just not been my experience. #mommywars
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She won't let my dad communicate with me at all without her input, so she listens into phonecalls, reads emails and checks the mail just to make sure there is no privacy allowed. Essentially she's asking him to choose between us and I'm furious to have been put in that position, especially when she sends me abusive emails without him knowing. He tends to go with her wishes (probably for the easy life.)
She's very threatened by his relationship with me (but not my brother). There seems to be an oddly competitive feel which I know other stepdaughters have had with their stepmothers. Maybe the twisted feel comes from the fact she's only 10 years older than me? #mommywars
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However, this could explain the perpetuation of the myth in modern culture #mommywars
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The stepmother archetype from fairy tales existed at a time when women often died in child birth. So the existence of a stepmother could be a reminder that you are the reason your mother is dead. The evil stepmother may have been a way to memorialize the pure mother. Or perhaps it was a way to create a villain within the home. A child deals most often with parents as authority figures. It is easy to make a stepmother the villain because she does control a child's life, but it is not turning an actual mother or father into that villain. #mommywars
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There was a book studying this recently (in Classics we still think of the 90s as recent) called _Ancient Stepmothers: Myth, Misogyny and Reality_ by a woman named Patricia Watson. #mommywars
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Na, stepmoms totally get a bad rep. #mommywars
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But, I don't really know many people with divorced parents so maybe I've just seen Stepmom one too many times. #mommywars
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Oh yeah, did I mention she and her daughters are joining us for Thanksgiving? This should be fun... #mommywars
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Anyways, there shouldn't be a Marmaduke movie. Period. It's the worst comic of all time! #rihannaglamourmagazine
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