My worst memories of bullying are another kids', and not mine. He got transferred here in the middle of 8th grade (which is probably the worst by itself) and had the misfortune of being an "odd" kid...looking back on it he most likely had a bad form of ADHD. He would just sit there and babble and be annoying and loud, and say weird things. Even our teachers would get pissed at him. I didn't think it was that bad because my little brother exhibited the same behavior, and I didn't know he was in danger from other kids until one day.
I came out of the cafeteria and went over to the play field and saw this enormous crowd of everyone else surrounding him. I mean like, every 8th grader at that school. Since I was the only one who would stick up for him, I raced over there and got into the middle of it and found that this one boy, a big tall guy, was forcing him to EAT QUARTERS, and the kid had tears rolling down his face while he was swallowing the coins. Everyone was just standing there jeering, like it was a fucking circus sideshow act. The shock and anger I felt seeing that, to this day, still bothers me. It was just so inhumane and horrible that I felt almost unreal watching it. I don't really remember much of what happened next, probably because of that shock...I do know that I proceeded to rain holy hell down on everyone and the crowd broke up almost right away. And everybody seemed amused and exasperated at me, like I was defending an insect or something. I remember crying when I was telling my parents a couple weeks later, and learning that people can be so cruel and hateful towards each other. And for what end? Because somebody's different? I'm sorry that I can't be more eloquent, but it just sucks. It sucks so bad. I don't know how people can get a satisfaction out of being mean or a downright sociopath to other people, especially at that age. It just completely escapes me.
There was more shit to be had for him, but nothing nearly that bad. At the end of the year when he signed my yearbook, he handed it back to me and said quietly, "Thank you for being my friend." And somehow that made me feel bad, even though I had spent the last couple of months looking out for him. I don't know why.
"Fed up with the bullying, Hansen [the school principal] scoured the Internet for information and spoke with school officials across the state to come up with an innovative plan.
"He started by conducting a "bully survey." Every student in the school was asked to write down the names of the bullies. Reading through the surveys, Hansen noticed the same eight names kept popping up.
"Instead of outing the bullies, Hansen used the surveys to identify the problem kids and meet with them individually. During the meetings, he worked on solving their problems individually, which often stemmed from trouble at home.
"He also got the bullies involved in extracurricular activities as a reward for good behavior.
"We knew it wasn't going to be effective to bully the bullies, so we used it as a teaching moment," Hansen said."
I think one of the reaons I love boxing so very much is because I've always wanted to defend myself against the peckerheads who spend 17 years making my life miserable.
I CAN defend myself now. I can't go back in time, but it gives me a little comfort.
The biggest losers I've ever met have always been former bullies. Even into adulthood, they still carry around a sense of entitlement, a keen radar for pecking order, and use it to their advantage: bullshit, petty little power plays, always designed with a short-term gain in mind. They suck just as much now at work, as they did in middle-school. We all know them: they are the kind of person who perceives kindness as a "weakness", typically poor students with below average grades, mediocre minds, and little talent.
Unfortunately for them, these emotional immature attitudes, which, when thrust into the real world outside of the sandbox, carry no weight. How angry and bitter they turn into as adults! The "rules" have changed and no one told them! Because we others understand there are no "rules", no guidebooks towards life: life is not a "game" where everything is an acquisition with which to be squeezed of every last drop. How unfair life must seem to former bullies!
I chose to gain personal power through sheer, hard work and my own achievements. I do not stand on the shoulders of others, but became independent in thought, through knowledge, which has given me much empathy and understanding. That is true strength—an unassailable sense of self, and no one can ever take that away from someone. How frustrating that must be to those who use minor tactics and manipulations to get what they think they want!
Now that I have some power, I use it wisely, in an effort to help others. Being of service and giving back, in some way, to society, is the greatest accomplishment one can have.
Ugh, bullies. Like many here, I was bullied when I was a kid. I was bullied because I was fat, I was bullied because I looked different (One girl hated me because she thought I was hispanic, and told me she hated me because she hated all "mexicans" - I'm not even close to hispanic, but she's a racist all the same) and then in high school I was bullied because I was goth.
I distinctly remember this one time my friends and I were sitting in this open area and there was a railing up above us looking down to where we were. A few guys threw batteries at us. I don't know if you've ever thrown a double A battery or seen one thrown, but those things can do some damage. Some how I put my hand up and stopped the battery from hitting me in the face while carrying on a conversation with my friend, like some sort of Goth ninja. I still don't know how I managed that but I had a huge bruise on the palm on my hand for weeks. I'm positive it would have broken my nose if I didn't stop it.
It still hurts to think about some of the kids I had to deal with. I hated them all so much I didn't go to my 10 year high school reunion, even though I lost a ton of weight and would have blown their minds. They weren't worth the time. I hope that if I ever have children they don't have to go through what I did.
I am probably late to the game (damn time difference! I was fast asleep when this was posted)...
I've read through the comments, but not all of them - I stopped when I felt a lump in my throat starting to form; so many experiences mirror my own and it makes me think of all the torment I too endured over the years.
I was bullied a lot all through my formative years - in three stages by different people no less; age 3-5 by the kids at my preschool, age 6-13 by my 'classmates', teachers and principal (!) at my school, age 18-19 by a group of girls at my high school.
As to why I was bullied; I don't find that particulary important - saying that I was weird or nerdy will in my mind only justify the bullies' way of thinking. Just because I don't happen to fit in to the box of what they think is 'normal', doesn't make me any less of a person!
But that is something that has taken me a long time to realize; that recurring bullying doesn't imply that there is something wrong with me/something about my personality that justifies people bullying me.
Nevertheless, the mental scars from being a victim for so long will never truly go away (hello, insecurities and fear of rejection!), and that's why I almost cried while reading through the comments...
@to do everything in truth: In a way, it's almost comforting. I know I am not alone - it wasn't that I was a freak of nature, it was that I was on the bottom of the pecking order, and that's what happens when that's where you are. I am sad knowing it happened to so many people, but relieved it wasn't just me. Intellectually, I know it isn't, but emotionally, it sometimes felt that way.
@boxspelunker: That is so true; it's actually reasuring to know that there are other out there like myself - others who too have survived years of bullying.
How sad that it seems like so many of us had it so rough in middle school, which is such a fucked-up scary time anyway, what with puberty coming on and all that. I wouldn't call myself bullied, exactly, but I was teased a whole bunch, and it was traumatizing.
I would like to say that I was all empathetic toward those who were weaker than me and more sensitive and shit, but no, instead I dealt with it by turning around and bullying others. If I thought someone was weirder than me, I went after her, if only because it took the pressure off me.
@owlowlowl: Well, there are two kinds, really - junior high, which is for grades 7-9, and middle school, which is for grades 6-8. I was a young one, so I was aged 12 through 14, but some kids are as old as 15 and some are as young as 11. It's mostly tweens and young teens, I guess.
My dad always told me that I shouldn't spend time thinking about Bullies because they don't spend time thinking about you. Sensitive, he was not but his heart was in the right place.
Worst thing I've ever said to someone (a kid, who I'm pretty sure grew up to be a sociopath because he was a horrible child bully), "If you didn't exist, I wouldn't care." I meant it too. My feelings toward that person really frightened me because, I'm pretty empathetic and I honestly didn't care if that person ceased to exist. I didn't say die because I would feel bad for the good people that cared about him, but if that guy didn't exist, I wouldn't have cared. I actually forgot about him until a few years ago and I thought to myself, "Wow, he did cease to exist to me and I still don't care."
In Chicago around the public schools I have noticed a lot of really awesome anti-bullying advertisements. The ads are clever, hip, and well-geared towards adolescents. I wonder if they're effective. I think people are finally becoming more aware of bullying as something that is a serious issue, and not just something "kids go through." I hope this kind of awareness continues, because I remember that when I would try to go to The Adults to get help during my horror years, the most I got out of them was, "Everyone goes through it/these are rough years/13 is a difficult age." It frustrated me to no end.
Reading all the comments on this page, it seems like a lot of people had a few really awful years, which is just the saddest thing to me. I don't know that my experiences could fit into "bullying" strictly, but from about 7th grade to my junior year in high school, I was a very, very unhappy person. I didn't really fit in with anyone, and in the transition from 8th grade to high school lost all of my friends and gained some not-so-great ones. I had one friend freshman and sophomore year, and I did stage crew, which was mostly good. But too often my "friends" would think it was funny to call me "lardo" and "fatso" (I was actually generally considered underweight and though I never had an eating disorder, was self-conscious about my appearance).
Somewhere in there I developed this intense fear of rejection that plagues me to this day. Going to college has been really hard for me because it is really difficult for me to make friends. I'm pretty easy-going, but I find it INCREDIBLY hard to reach out to people and say, "Do you want to hang out sometime?" I've made friends through things like stage crew, going to ska shows, and my summer job, where you're literally spending hours with people and it's pretty much your life, so it's hard for me to start a friendship with somebody I just know from class or something. And I convince myself that I'd rather sit at home alone than risk spending time with people I won't end up liking or worse, who won't like me.
The first time I remember feeling these things is in high school, but I can't quite remember why. I think I just remember feeling like people wouldn't like me, that I can't tell stories well or have nothing interesting to say or I tell awful jokes (and I tell them badly). I've kind of started to embrace my loser-identity, and I don't know if it's empowering or sad. I've made a few friends in college, but I only know one person with whom I'm comfortable enough to call randomly and ask if she wants to hang out. There were so many people in middle school and high school who I were my good friends at one moment and would say and do these really hurtful things in the next, that I guess it's really stunted me in the social/friendships department. Generally I'm okay and I've grown from it now, but sometimes the insecurity is just crippling.
This has pretty much been the last five years of my life (just graduated college). My best friend is one I kept from high school, and some days, I wonder how much we have in common, or how much I have to offer her. I regret not tapping some people who were just "acquaintances" in high school, but seem to have a lot in common with me, and are generally warm, interesting, accessible people. All I had going on was trying to stay afloat in classes...I had energy for little much else by the end. I was self-conscious about looks and making friends in general, frustrated and exhausted. (Still frustrated, but deeply, deeply relieved to have graduated, at least).
Even if people are nice in class, it's hard to hold onto people from semester to semester, especially if they're in a different track, and I worry I'll come off boring(I'm bad at telling jokes, too) or worse, the person I try to befriend in class won't like me.
It saddens me to think that, for most people, it only gets more difficult to make real friends or bond w/ people as you get older....as if it isn't hard enough when you're in your teens and twenties.
@boxspelunker: @maude_flanders
hearting both of you. I remember within the last few months there was an article on here about how hard it is to make friends after college and I didn't know how to comment without sounding whiny: what about those of us who have trouble making/keeping friends IN college?
I vividly remember coming home from school in the eighth grade in tears day in and day out. Finally, my mother had had enough of it, and she would practice sarcastic retorts and witty responses with me for hours. The day I finally mustered up the courage to snap back at my biggest bully with one of them, in front of a bunch of boys, no less? Glorious! Her mouth just flapped open and closed like a fish, then she chased me down the hallway. It's probably a good thing a teacher caught her before she managed to get to me, or it would have been a much less triumphant victory (that day, anyway).
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I think there is some truth to it, that people who were bullied tend to be thoughtful and more empathetic, in general. And the types of kids who were bullied tended to be bookish, somewhat introverted. I guess the bookish ones became successful based on their smarts.
Since we seem to be telling personal stories on this thread:
People who tried to bully me got punched hard, right away. So, I was not bullied but neither was I a bullier. I was "that psycho girl you'd better not mess with."
I still have a short temper, but I've been using my words like a good girl for over 30 years now.
@euterpe35: I snapped once and after calmly telling a guy to get off my desk (he was rubbing his butt on my papers), and if he didn't get off, I was going to stab him in the hand with this pen, I did it.
He continued to pick on me, and I was pegged as the next school shooter :/ I can never figure out how to respond to make it stop. I'm glad I'm away from high school and junior high.
@euterpe35: Ha. I can kind of relate. In junior high I was teased a little because of my weight, but nothing real bad...in fact I considered that kind of stuff good for my humility, as fucked up as that sounds.
But in high school was where I was expecting the worst of it. I saw some of my friends and peers getting absolutely horrible shit, and I was terrified something like that would happen to me. But for some reason, people pretty much left me alone. I had friends, and a reasonably average time, and it wasn't until I left that I realized I was perceived as "scary." I dressed in tomboyish/dark clothes and I walked around with a mean look on my face. After one semester I realized that my geometry teacher was actually afraid of me. I'm glad my faux tough bitch persona helped me out there, otherwise I could have had a really terrible time of it. Understatement of the millenium, but we bigger girls don't usually have an easy time of it when we're injected into an environment with 2,500 other teenagers.
Being bullied may make people more empathetic and perhaps motivated, but it depends on the person at issue. Many of my friends were nerdy back in the day, and they're some of the most phenominal, level headed, insightful and mature people I know.
There are other former unpopular people, however, who still have a chip on their shoulder from that time. They think of themselves as the Smart and/or Nice Girls (TM) who's better than all the popular kids, because popular to them equals vapid and superficial. In the meantime, their behavior is just as bad as the stereotypical Mean Girl, except that it's more passive aggressive. They think they can get away with it because they think their targets are too stupid to understand, and why, everyone thinks that these former unpopular kids are SO NICE.
@CubeRootOfPi: I think there is a lot of entitlement that comes from bullied people sometimes. I've encountered a coworkers who I can just tell had terrible experiences with bullies, so when someone makes a sarcastic joke or whatever, they don't pick up on it and turn into total overly earnest annoying people. I was a bully in prep school and was bullied once when I was at summer camp, but what I've learned is to just "forget it" and move on. There is no need to dwell on the past. The whole passive aggressive nice girl persona really annoys me. It reeks of overcompensating for other social inadequacies. Everyone gets shitted on once and a while and I really think it's important for some people to just "grow up."
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I came out of the cafeteria and went over to the play field and saw this enormous crowd of everyone else surrounding him. I mean like, every 8th grader at that school. Since I was the only one who would stick up for him, I raced over there and got into the middle of it and found that this one boy, a big tall guy, was forcing him to EAT QUARTERS, and the kid had tears rolling down his face while he was swallowing the coins. Everyone was just standing there jeering, like it was a fucking circus sideshow act. The shock and anger I felt seeing that, to this day, still bothers me. It was just so inhumane and horrible that I felt almost unreal watching it. I don't really remember much of what happened next, probably because of that shock...I do know that I proceeded to rain holy hell down on everyone and the crowd broke up almost right away. And everybody seemed amused and exasperated at me, like I was defending an insect or something. I remember crying when I was telling my parents a couple weeks later, and learning that people can be so cruel and hateful towards each other. And for what end? Because somebody's different? I'm sorry that I can't be more eloquent, but it just sucks. It sucks so bad. I don't know how people can get a satisfaction out of being mean or a downright sociopath to other people, especially at that age. It just completely escapes me.
There was more shit to be had for him, but nothing nearly that bad. At the end of the year when he signed my yearbook, he handed it back to me and said quietly, "Thank you for being my friend." And somehow that made me feel bad, even though I had spent the last couple of months looking out for him. I don't know why.
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12/13/09
[abcnews.go.com]
"Fed up with the bullying, Hansen [the school principal] scoured the Internet for information and spoke with school officials across the state to come up with an innovative plan.
"He started by conducting a "bully survey." Every student in the school was asked to write down the names of the bullies. Reading through the surveys, Hansen noticed the same eight names kept popping up.
"Instead of outing the bullies, Hansen used the surveys to identify the problem kids and meet with them individually. During the meetings, he worked on solving their problems individually, which often stemmed from trouble at home.
"He also got the bullies involved in extracurricular activities as a reward for good behavior.
"We knew it wasn't going to be effective to bully the bullies, so we used it as a teaching moment," Hansen said."
12/12/09
I CAN defend myself now. I can't go back in time, but it gives me a little comfort.
12/12/09
Unfortunately for them, these emotional immature attitudes, which, when thrust into the real world outside of the sandbox, carry no weight. How angry and bitter they turn into as adults! The "rules" have changed and no one told them! Because we others understand there are no "rules", no guidebooks towards life: life is not a "game" where everything is an acquisition with which to be squeezed of every last drop. How unfair life must seem to former bullies!
I chose to gain personal power through sheer, hard work and my own achievements. I do not stand on the shoulders of others, but became independent in thought, through knowledge, which has given me much empathy and understanding. That is true strength—an unassailable sense of self, and no one can ever take that away from someone. How frustrating that must be to those who use minor tactics and manipulations to get what they think they want!
Now that I have some power, I use it wisely, in an effort to help others. Being of service and giving back, in some way, to society, is the greatest accomplishment one can have.
So take that bullies :)
12/12/09
I distinctly remember this one time my friends and I were sitting in this open area and there was a railing up above us looking down to where we were. A few guys threw batteries at us. I don't know if you've ever thrown a double A battery or seen one thrown, but those things can do some damage. Some how I put my hand up and stopped the battery from hitting me in the face while carrying on a conversation with my friend, like some sort of Goth ninja. I still don't know how I managed that but I had a huge bruise on the palm on my hand for weeks. I'm positive it would have broken my nose if I didn't stop it.
It still hurts to think about some of the kids I had to deal with. I hated them all so much I didn't go to my 10 year high school reunion, even though I lost a ton of weight and would have blown their minds. They weren't worth the time. I hope that if I ever have children they don't have to go through what I did.
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12/12/09
I've read through the comments, but not all of them - I stopped when I felt a lump in my throat starting to form; so many experiences mirror my own and it makes me think of all the torment I too endured over the years.
I was bullied a lot all through my formative years - in three stages by different people no less; age 3-5 by the kids at my preschool, age 6-13 by my 'classmates', teachers and principal (!) at my school, age 18-19 by a group of girls at my high school.
As to why I was bullied; I don't find that particulary important - saying that I was weird or nerdy will in my mind only justify the bullies' way of thinking. Just because I don't happen to fit in to the box of what they think is 'normal', doesn't make me any less of a person!
But that is something that has taken me a long time to realize; that recurring bullying doesn't imply that there is something wrong with me/something about my personality that justifies people bullying me.
Nevertheless, the mental scars from being a victim for so long will never truly go away (hello, insecurities and fear of rejection!), and that's why I almost cried while reading through the comments...
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I would like to say that I was all empathetic toward those who were weaker than me and more sensitive and shit, but no, instead I dealt with it by turning around and bullying others. If I thought someone was weirder than me, I went after her, if only because it took the pressure off me.
The whole thing makes me terribly sad.
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And also, thanks. :)
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I never went back to them for help. Not even when I probably should have. Instead, I just dealt with it (poorly) on my own.
12/11/09
Somewhere in there I developed this intense fear of rejection that plagues me to this day. Going to college has been really hard for me because it is really difficult for me to make friends. I'm pretty easy-going, but I find it INCREDIBLY hard to reach out to people and say, "Do you want to hang out sometime?" I've made friends through things like stage crew, going to ska shows, and my summer job, where you're literally spending hours with people and it's pretty much your life, so it's hard for me to start a friendship with somebody I just know from class or something. And I convince myself that I'd rather sit at home alone than risk spending time with people I won't end up liking or worse, who won't like me.
The first time I remember feeling these things is in high school, but I can't quite remember why. I think I just remember feeling like people wouldn't like me, that I can't tell stories well or have nothing interesting to say or I tell awful jokes (and I tell them badly). I've kind of started to embrace my loser-identity, and I don't know if it's empowering or sad. I've made a few friends in college, but I only know one person with whom I'm comfortable enough to call randomly and ask if she wants to hang out. There were so many people in middle school and high school who I were my good friends at one moment and would say and do these really hurtful things in the next, that I guess it's really stunted me in the social/friendships department. Generally I'm okay and I've grown from it now, but sometimes the insecurity is just crippling.
12/11/09
Even if people are nice in class, it's hard to hold onto people from semester to semester, especially if they're in a different track, and I worry I'll come off boring(I'm bad at telling jokes, too) or worse, the person I try to befriend in class won't like me.
It saddens me to think that, for most people, it only gets more difficult to make real friends or bond w/ people as you get older....as if it isn't hard enough when you're in your teens and twenties.
12/12/09
12/12/09
hearting both of you. I remember within the last few months there was an article on here about how hard it is to make friends after college and I didn't know how to comment without sounding whiny: what about those of us who have trouble making/keeping friends IN college?
12/11/09
12/11/09
Since we seem to be telling personal stories on this thread:
People who tried to bully me got punched hard, right away. So, I was not bullied but neither was I a bullier. I was "that psycho girl you'd better not mess with."
I still have a short temper, but I've been using my words like a good girl for over 30 years now.
12/12/09
He continued to pick on me, and I was pegged as the next school shooter :/ I can never figure out how to respond to make it stop. I'm glad I'm away from high school and junior high.
12/14/09
But in high school was where I was expecting the worst of it. I saw some of my friends and peers getting absolutely horrible shit, and I was terrified something like that would happen to me. But for some reason, people pretty much left me alone. I had friends, and a reasonably average time, and it wasn't until I left that I realized I was perceived as "scary." I dressed in tomboyish/dark clothes and I walked around with a mean look on my face. After one semester I realized that my geometry teacher was actually afraid of me. I'm glad my faux tough bitch persona helped me out there, otherwise I could have had a really terrible time of it. Understatement of the millenium, but we bigger girls don't usually have an easy time of it when we're injected into an environment with 2,500 other teenagers.
12/14/09
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There are other former unpopular people, however, who still have a chip on their shoulder from that time. They think of themselves as the Smart and/or Nice Girls (TM) who's better than all the popular kids, because popular to them equals vapid and superficial. In the meantime, their behavior is just as bad as the stereotypical Mean Girl, except that it's more passive aggressive. They think they can get away with it because they think their targets are too stupid to understand, and why, everyone thinks that these former unpopular kids are SO NICE.
12/12/09