Or you could just make up your own last name like I did.
I always hated my real last name, don't want to be associated with my fathers family, and found another artist who is already qute famopuswhen you google my real name.
At that point, it kind of became as much a business decision as a personal one.
I just want someone to explain to m the logistics of legally changing your name in California. Everythng I've read is very fuzzy about it..
My girlfriend is a hyphenate, and already has two middle names besides, so there's no room to drop one of the hyphenated names and add an extra middle name. I have a very basic first middle last format. Either of her parents would be put out if she dropped their name from her last name and didn't somehow keep it, but I refuse to have three last names (I would like us, and our children, to share the same surname).
My solution is an entirely new last name, unrelated to either of our families. Smooshing them together doesn't work (no pleasant combination can be produced), but there's a whole world of choices--and I have one in mind. I figure it pisses everyone off equally--her family and mine. Win! I'm working on convincing her.
I've been considering changing my last name in the past few months, to my mother's maiden name. She kept her name when she married my Dad, but both my sister and I only have my dad's last name. She died a year and half... almost two years ago, and she was the greatest influence in my life, bar none.
The thing is.. her last name is VERY common, my dad's last name is pretty unique, which *might* be an asset since I'm in academia (easy for people to recognize... although not easy to spell. What do you Jezebelles think? I am about to get my MA so I am particularly interested, since once I get my MA I don't want to chainge. (I want my higher ed degrees to be in the name I'll have forever.)
@Gnatalby: Stick with the unique name. Use your mother's maiden as a middle. [Your first name] [mother's maiden] [your last name] is a perfectly legit way to publish, even if sometimes the one in the middle will be made into an initial.
I think that is an awesome decision on Nuefeld's part, but it is definitely a personal one.
I am in a long term lesbian relationship. We can't get married or even have a domestic partnership in my state. We decided to legaly change our last names to match, and since neither of us was particually attached to our father's names we chose our own together.
I wasn't very fond of my maiden name - it's French and I live in Texas where no one pronounces it correctly - or hell- even phonetically. I also have two siblings one being a brother with a son - so the all important name will pass on to another unlucky generation. Besides, my dad's last name is from his adopted father - not even a bio father. Meh.
My partner had an obscure last name that isn't popular here in the States. She also has siblings with children.
So we flipped thru some books, talked about it etc and made our own last name. I love having the same last name as the woman I consider my wife.
I know a lot of women who have changed their names who say "I hated my dad/I hated that name/people spelled it wrong/it's not as pretty" etc. but oddly, not a single man who has changed his name for any of those reasons. And while I support a woman's choice of name, I wonder if a lot of us make up reasons to justify our decisions to just do the "normal" thing.
@sequined: Yes. I know more people who have unilaterally decided to change their last names to distance themselves from parents than men who have taken their wife's name upon marriage for any reason.
@J.D.Regent: I actually know one man in my office who did that! I think it was a combination of a very strained relationship with his family and the fact that his "maiden name" was long and unpronounceable.
i am torn about what to do about this in my own life - my current last name is as generic as they come, and i have personally met 5 people with my name.
if i took my fiance's name, i would have a fabulous illiteration, and a last name that is both unique and easy to pronounce.
however, i am solely the last generation with my family's surname, and i know my dad would be devastated if i changed it, as it's all on me.
is illiteration a word brosephina? if not it should be. Like either the ability to make someone illiterate or like some kind of combination of alliteration and illustration.
What has been driving me bonkers lately is how many women hyphenate and their husbands don't. I find it so humiliating. I refuse to hyphenate though I will probably hoist it however cumbersomely on my children. I don't care what they do with their last names; why on earth would I think I could have any control over that and doesn't that then automatically privilege boys as team-name bearers?
My grandfather took my grandmother's last name because she was from a more powerful family. Of course there is a story going around our family that it was because my grandfather was a murderer and needed to change his name to hide from the authorities... I'm pretty sure that's not true though.
@dj_chick: Someone discovered that our last name (on our family) "appears" randomly when the first dude came over from his homeland, even though the name would make perfect sense coming from said homeland. I suggested maybe he was a criminal and changed his name, thus the difficulty finding records before he came to America. This suggestion did NOT go over well at the family reunion.
When my parents got married, my mom took my father's last name and gave me her maiden name as my first. I might do the same thing when I get married, or keep my maiden name professionally, or use two last names - whatever feels comfortable, but I am traditional enough to want one family name for my kids, husband and self to use as a unit. All the kids in my family also have family names, for the most part. Family history is really important to me, as my husband's would be as well, but there are so many great ways to keep the names alive and a part of your identity. Since my first name is from my mom's side, I have always identified myself more with that surname than with my actual last name, and my brothers have also been really interested in our history on both sides to better understand the people they are named for.
@wells44: I am so jealous that that is even an option for you. My mother's maiden name was awful, and my last name now is worse, so I could never foist them on a kid. I might try to scour some of the last names further back on the family tree, especially now that those kinds of names are popular now.
I don't know anyone who thinks it's a given that anyone is giving up any name upon marriage. I know there are still people like that out there but I don't seem to know them. And for that, I'm glad.
@ides: My female friends and acquaintances who have been married recently have all (immediately and seemingly without even considering alternatives) changed their surnames. I am regularly shocked about it.
@ides: i am from the south, and i promise you, throughout the entire southeast (and texas) it is absolutely still standard practice that you take your husband's name.
in fact i don't know anyone from high school or college that DIDN'T take their husband's name - and i am friends with a very successful and highly educated bunch :)
@sequined: Same here! Even my new sister-in-law, who formerly claimed she didn't want to take our last name, just changed hers. I'm really surprised she did so, especially since she still feels so uncomfortable about it.
I like the idea of both couples adopting both last names, without a hyphen. A college mentor of mine and his wife did that, and I've always admired it.
@ides: Mr. Chamalla insisted I take his name, and was shocked -SHOCKED - that I wanted to keep my maiden name. We had enough other shit to iron out, so I relented, but I was surprised at how vehemently he opposed the idea of me keeping my own name.
My husband took my last name. It was entirely his idea. When we first started dating, we were discussing the ideas of name change over chocolate cake (which is really how all serious relationship discussions should take place, no?), and he stated that he had always planned on taking his wife's last name.
I was extremely surprised, and when we decided to get married, I did not hold him to that conversation. I stated, simply, that I did not plan on changing my name (my name has the perfect cadence to it, and his last name sounded suspiciously like "Shits"). He stuck to that initial decision though, and said he'd change his name.
However, we did get into a huge argment about titles. In reaffirming his decision, he looked me deep and lovingly in the eyes, and said "Mr. and Mrs. [my last]." I promptly squashed that, saying it sounded like I married my brother, and I would clearly be "Ms" An argument ensued, that ended with me going to the Universal Life Church website and getting ordained, so we could be Mr. and Rev. and have done with it.
Oddly, when we announced our decision to our parents, his parents were disappointed but ultimately cool with it. My dad, on the otherhand, was less supportive. After I told him, he said he thought it was a huge mistake because "You can't be a confident, successful person if you don't have your own name!" (he neglected to explain how my mom, or his mother had mentioned to be incredible strong successful women, despite taking their husbands' names).
I know I will be receiving cards addressed to Mr. and Mrs. Shits for most of my life, and I'm fine with that. If anything, while I am grateful for my husband's willingness to change his name, part of me is sad I'll never be "Mrs. So-and-so". But in the end, I'd rather stay a Ms. (or Rev.), with the joyful poetry of my own name, than become a Mrs Shits, and i am tremendously grateful that to my husband did not try to demand I give it up.
OK, get this weirdness. My bf's last name is the same as my mom's maiden name (no relation, it's fairly common). So even if we got hitched and I took his name I'd be keepin' it in the family. win-win
Also, I know a couple that invented a new last name. They picked Thomas.
@pear.shaped.Sara: I LOVE choose your own names. It's baptismal and creative and empowering. But I am too much of a conservative weiner to be so bold myself. If I did, I think I would pick Neruda (no relation).
I happily changed my name when I got married. I had no connection to my horrible father's last name and it actually felt good to shed the superficial, yet real connection to him.
@lorem ipsum: my (half)brother hates his last name, as it is incredibly unique, and represents the asshole that is his real dad. i think at times he wishes he had changed it when he had the chance (back in high school when "our" dad offered to adopt him formally).
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I always hated my real last name, don't want to be associated with my fathers family, and found another artist who is already qute famopuswhen you google my real name.
At that point, it kind of became as much a business decision as a personal one.
I just want someone to explain to m the logistics of legally changing your name in California. Everythng I've read is very fuzzy about it..
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My solution is an entirely new last name, unrelated to either of our families. Smooshing them together doesn't work (no pleasant combination can be produced), but there's a whole world of choices--and I have one in mind. I figure it pisses everyone off equally--her family and mine. Win! I'm working on convincing her.
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The thing is.. her last name is VERY common, my dad's last name is pretty unique, which *might* be an asset since I'm in academia (easy for people to recognize... although not easy to spell. What do you Jezebelles think? I am about to get my MA so I am particularly interested, since once I get my MA I don't want to chainge. (I want my higher ed degrees to be in the name I'll have forever.)
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I am in a long term lesbian relationship. We can't get married or even have a domestic partnership in my state. We decided to legaly change our last names to match, and since neither of us was particually attached to our father's names we chose our own together.
I wasn't very fond of my maiden name - it's French and I live in Texas where no one pronounces it correctly - or hell- even phonetically. I also have two siblings one being a brother with a son - so the all important name will pass on to another unlucky generation. Besides, my dad's last name is from his adopted father - not even a bio father. Meh.
My partner had an obscure last name that isn't popular here in the States. She also has siblings with children.
So we flipped thru some books, talked about it etc and made our own last name. I love having the same last name as the woman I consider my wife.
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if i took my fiance's name, i would have a fabulous illiteration, and a last name that is both unique and easy to pronounce.
however, i am solely the last generation with my family's surname, and i know my dad would be devastated if i changed it, as it's all on me.
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is illiteration a word brosephina? if not it should be. Like either the ability to make someone illiterate or like some kind of combination of alliteration and illustration.
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in fact i don't know anyone from high school or college that DIDN'T take their husband's name - and i am friends with a very successful and highly educated bunch :)
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I like the idea of both couples adopting both last names, without a hyphen. A college mentor of mine and his wife did that, and I've always admired it.
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I was extremely surprised, and when we decided to get married, I did not hold him to that conversation. I stated, simply, that I did not plan on changing my name (my name has the perfect cadence to it, and his last name sounded suspiciously like "Shits"). He stuck to that initial decision though, and said he'd change his name.
However, we did get into a huge argment about titles. In reaffirming his decision, he looked me deep and lovingly in the eyes, and said "Mr. and Mrs. [my last]." I promptly squashed that, saying it sounded like I married my brother, and I would clearly be "Ms" An argument ensued, that ended with me going to the Universal Life Church website and getting ordained, so we could be Mr. and Rev. and have done with it.
Oddly, when we announced our decision to our parents, his parents were disappointed but ultimately cool with it. My dad, on the otherhand, was less supportive. After I told him, he said he thought it was a huge mistake because "You can't be a confident, successful person if you don't have your own name!" (he neglected to explain how my mom, or his mother had mentioned to be incredible strong successful women, despite taking their husbands' names).
I know I will be receiving cards addressed to Mr. and Mrs. Shits for most of my life, and I'm fine with that. If anything, while I am grateful for my husband's willingness to change his name, part of me is sad I'll never be "Mrs. So-and-so". But in the end, I'd rather stay a Ms. (or Rev.), with the joyful poetry of my own name, than become a Mrs Shits, and i am tremendously grateful that to my husband did not try to demand I give it up.
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Also, I know a couple that invented a new last name. They picked Thomas.
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