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    "Palinizing" Prejean, Prejeanizing Palin: Two Conservative Women Look Out For #1

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    Image of CherriSpryte CherriSpryte
    11/18/09

    In reply to "Palinizing" Prejean, Prejeanizing Palin: Two Conservative Women Look Out For #1
    You have forgotten the most important similarity: the country/world would be a whole lot better if both of these people went far far away and never came back.
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    Image of GeorgeFayne GeorgeFayne
    11/18/09

    @CherriSpryte: Oh there are so many more. For example: They are both idiots. Also, I hate them both, such as.
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    Image of That_little_attention_whore That_little_attention_whore
    11/19/09

    @GeorgeFayne: oooh, ooh, I can play this game too! Both will never be taken seriously by anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together
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    Image of GeorgeFayne GeorgeFayne
    11/19/09

    @That_little_attention_whore: They both would be well-advised to stop alienating the gays, you know, if they want to keep having pretty hair?
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    11/18/09

    In reply to "Palinizing" Prejean, Prejeanizing Palin: Two Conservative Women Look Out For #1
    The most irritating thing about this is that they do have points, and the left has allowed them to have those points, and given them the ammunition. Yeah, Obama isn't any more pro-gay marriage than any conservative out there, and there is a lot of sexism on the left. Look at what they did to Hillary Clinton. We choose to ignore these things, and this is what happens.
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    11/18/09

    In reply to "Palinizing" Prejean, Prejeanizing Palin: Two Conservative Women Look Out For #1
    These two make Miss Teen SC look like a genius. At least she's realized that the thing that made her famous is a joke, and she's willing to laugh at it and make fun of herself. Who knew she'd be my favorite conservative beauty queen?
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    Image of toastandlove toastandlove
    11/18/09

    In reply to "Palinizing" Prejean, Prejeanizing Palin: Two Conservative Women Look Out For #1
    What I don't get is that these women spend a hell of a lot of time explaining that they DO oppose gay marriage, but never really dwell on WHY.

    I would really like to hear an explanation as to why. Preferably one that does NOT include the phrase "opposite marriage".
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    11/18/09

    @toastandlove: Y'know, this is a really good point, not just for Prejean and Palin, but for all the people shouting that gay marriage is EEEEVIL and will destroy America. I really want to go up to them and ask them to use real data, not just a vague shake of the Bible, to convince me of their point.

    Moral of the Story: Back your thesis up with actual evidence, people!
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    Image of toastandlove toastandlove
    11/18/09

    @Zapatos: I Googled "why be against gay marriage" and came up with a bunch of different lists, mostly detailing how if we let the gays marry it will be the beginning of the decline of the family (lots of families are currently fucked up, we don't need the gays to do that), how it will inevitably lead to polygamy (silly fear mongering), how schools will be required to teach this "perversion" as normal (don't see how teaching kids to be accepting of all relationships is a bad thing), and how if we let the gays get married, they'll get all the same rights as the straights (kinda the point). So really, it just comes down to bigotry. And this convinces people?
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    Image of Red-headed bookworm Red-headed bookworm
    11/18/09

    @Zapatos: Yep, if your only reason to be against gay marriage, or anything else that may or may not be a law, is the Bible, that's not a good reason. There's that whole church and state seperation. Using religion as a reason for a law kind of violates that.
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    Image of whynotshesaid whynotshesaid
    11/18/09

    @Red-headed bookworm: Plus, to piggyback off toastandlove, but if they are going by what the Bible says, then they should be advocating for marriage between a man and sixteen wives and four thousand concubines.

    But then again, that assumes they've actually read the Bible, and it's been my experience that the majority of those who wave it around as some sort of authority on modern-day morality haven't actually read it.
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    Image of magicwaffle magicwaffle
    11/18/09

    @whynotshesaid: Unfortunately, it has been explained to me that not everyone in the Bible, even the heroes, are paragons of good behavior. Just because some dude in the Bible does it, doesn't mean it's okay.

    King's David and Solomon had lots of wives and concubines and it was bad. Not that the Bible tells us that. We just need to understand it. "that's how society was back then"; "look at all the trouble having all those wives caused them: David had someone murdered and Solomon let his pagan brides worship their heathen gods in his city"

    It takes a degree to know what's advice and what's a warning.
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    Image of whynotshesaid whynotshesaid
    11/18/09

    @magicwaffle: You are just affirming my belief that it is far better to base one's morality on something other than the Bible.

    #tips
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    Image of magicwaffle magicwaffle
    11/18/09

    @whynotshesaid: You mean you don't want to get a doctorate in theology just to know what it is you are supposed to know?
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    11/18/09

    In reply to "Palinizing" Prejean, Prejeanizing Palin: Two Conservative Women Look Out For #1
    All I can add at this point is this: If my charter-subscriber-to-Ms., protesting on the streets of DC in the 60s and 70s, multiple degree holding Original Feminist mom had an opportunity, Carrie Prejean would definitely NOT be "still standing." Mom is 66 years old and all kinds of pissed-off. Her exact words to me the other day were "I'd like to bust her in one of those rubber boobs." Man, I love my mother.
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    Image of GeorgeFayne GeorgeFayne
    11/18/09

    @I_can_still_pitch: Oh shit, I love your mom too.
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    Image of tiredfairy tiredfairy
    11/18/09

    In reply to "Palinizing" Prejean, Prejeanizing Palin: Two Conservative Women Look Out For #1
    I'm sick to death of the argument that having an opinion that's criticizes is some kind of infringement on your freedom, speech, or entitlement to that opinion. Or that being criticized for that opinion is in any way comparable to the discrimination homosexuals and other marginalized people have been grappling with forever because other people feel their opinions are more important than civil/human rights.

    Have at your opinions, ladies. No one is saying you can't have them. But opinions are not sacrosanct and above criticism just because you feel strongly about them. Especially not when you want those opinions to directly effect the equality UNDER THE LAW of other people.

    I'm sorry most of their opinions are ill-informed, bigoted, thoughtless, and rely on a narrow religious agenda. But that doesn't belong anywhere near the public schools, Ms. Prejean. The public schools are responsible for teaching reality, not morality.

    The level of self delusion is something they both have in common, too. And that same smug hypocrisy a lot of the radical right seems to favor. We're persecuted! We're the majority!
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    11/18/09

    @tiredfairy: I love how they're allowed to have bigoted, discriminatory opinions, but I'm not allowed to have the opinion that they're discriminating bigots.

    I guess double standards are A-OK for them.

    #tips
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    Image of Cerridwen Cerridwen
    11/18/09

    @tiredfairy: Ugh, yes! Precisely no one is telling Prejean or Palin they are not entitled to their opinions. Free speech does not mean you are immune to criticism. It means that you have the right to hold and express opinions. But it's fair game for everyone else to point out how problematic, bigoted and hypocritical those opinions are.

    Also? How can these people think it's ok to whine about the "discrimination" they supposed face, while actively lobbying to take other people's legal rights away? The lack of self-awareness, it boggles my mind.
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    Image of Sputnik_Sweetheart Sputnik_Sweetheart
    11/18/09

    @tiredfairy: If they are free to say whatever they want, then I am free to criticize it. Why is that such a hard concept?
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    Image of whynotshesaid whynotshesaid
    11/18/09

    @tiredfairy: Freedom of speech is not just about your right to be an idiot. It is also about my right to call you an idiot.
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    Image of CurtCole CurtCole
    11/18/09

    In reply to "Palinizing" Prejean, Prejeanizing Palin: Two Conservative Women Look Out For #1

    I can guess why she didn't want to pay homage to Elton John, but this would have made a much cooler book cover.
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    Image of sarahsmile sarahsmile
    11/18/09


    @CurtCole: There, fixed it.
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    Image of CurtCole CurtCole
    11/18/09

    @sarahsmile: You're my new best friend.
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    Image of TheUptightMidwesterner TheUptightMidwesterner
    11/18/09

    @CurtCole: You are my evil twin, because I was just going to post about that.
    I am a random person, so I laugh when I think her book is called Still Standing. It is also a song by MajorGay(tm) Elton John and the video just may be the gayest video ever made, to boot.
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    Image of PaigeTurner PaigeTurner
    11/18/09

    @sarahsmile: that's awesome.
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    Image of hortense hortense
    11/18/09

    In reply to "Palinizing" Prejean, Prejeanizing Palin: Two Conservative Women Look Out For #1
    I just want to apologize to Lauren Conrad and her ghostwriter for anything negative I ever said about LA Candy, which, after reading excerpts from the two books above, is Pulitzer-worthy by comparison.
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    Image of GeorgeFayne GeorgeFayne
    11/18/09

    @hortense: We should probably apologize to Nicole Richie (and her team of ghostwriters) for snarking on The Truth About Diamonds while we're at it. I mean, sure, it's total pap, but it's better than these turds.
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    Image of BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit) BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit)
    11/18/09

    In reply to "Palinizing" Prejean, Prejeanizing Palin: Two Conservative Women Look Out For #1
    LULZ Prejean is Still Standing!

    They tried to hose her off the steps of the newly-integrated school, but she's Still Standing! Um, no...

    They tried to jail her for casting a vote when it was illegal, but she's Still Standing! Hmmm wait...

    She lost her "job" as a beauty queen, but she's Still Standing!

    There, that's it. She's the next Rosa Parks.
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    Image of funzette funzette
    11/18/09

    In reply to "Palinizing" Prejean, Prejeanizing Palin: Two Conservative Women Look Out For #1
    I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship.

    2011: Palin, Prejean, Coulter and M. McCain film pilot for "The Right View"

    2012: The four pose for the cover of Vanity Fair, controversy erupts over who gets to wear the red bathing suit, who gets placed behind the fold.

    2014: Palin and Prejean break off (citing jealousy, making vaguely cryptic remarks re: persecution) and host fourth hour of The Today Show

    2015: Launch sitcom for the CW titled "2 Ps in a Pod", with Jonathan Cake as Todd Palin and Ian Somerhalder as Carrie's love interest

    2017: Producers bring in Asian child in effort to boost ratings. Effort fails.

    2018: Sex Scandal

    2019: Sex Scandal

    2020: The Grey Gardens Period begins

    2030: Fox Studios casts them in a remake of Whatever Happened to Baby Jane?

    2030: Unexplained accident on set, filming suspended, multiple lawsuits

    2031: Law & Order: Ripped From The Headlines airs. More lawsuits.
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    Image of BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit) BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit)
    11/18/09

    In reply to "Palinizing" Prejean, Prejeanizing Palin: Two Conservative Women Look Out For #1
    Also, they are both answers to questions no one asked. Such as.
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    Image of KittyKittyCat KittyKittyCat
    11/18/09

    @BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit): Should we find the most annoying attractive women in the world and pluck them out of media obscurity?
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    11/18/09

    In reply to "Palinizing" Prejean, Prejeanizing Palin: Two Conservative Women Look Out For #1
    Clearly, far more care was taken to edit the photographs adorning these books than the text inside.
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    Image of morninggloria morninggloria
    11/18/09

    In reply to "Palinizing" Prejean, Prejeanizing Palin: Two Conservative Women Look Out For #1
    Ex beauty queen, ex governor... why are we so obsessed with our exes? We're clearly not over them.
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    Image of hfree hfree
    11/18/09

    @morninggloria: What's the rule, it's takes half the time one was with someone to get over them? Tick tock.
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    Image of BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit) BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit)
    11/18/09

    @morninggloria: If only they just weren't that into us.
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    Image of JessickerFletcher JessickerFletcher
    11/18/09

    @morninggloria: That would explain the strange headline about the bridge to nowhere. "Ex-Governor Exacerbates Exuberant Exterior with Extremely Exhausting Explanation of Exclusion."
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    11/18/09

    In reply to "Palinizing" Prejean, Prejeanizing Palin: Two Conservative Women Look Out For #1
    Countdown to Nailin' Palin 2: Prejean's Beauty Queen Boogaloo

    in 3...

    2...

    1...
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    Image of FrannyR FrannyR
    11/18/09

    @JessickerFletcher: You beat me to it, I was just wondering why there is no Palin nailin' Carrie-porn movie
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    Image of JessickerFletcher JessickerFletcher
    11/18/09

    @JessickerFletcher: Then again, Going Rogue and Still Standing are already perfect names.
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    Image of JessickerFletcher JessickerFletcher
    11/18/09

    @FrannyR: The plotlines practically write themselves.

    Prejean: "You know, Sarah, just because I only believe in opposite marriage doesn't mean that I don't enjoy same-sex fun."
    Palin: "If this were a book, I'd have to ban it!"
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    Image of Jack_Burton Jack_Burton
    11/18/09

    In reply to "Palinizing" Prejean, Prejeanizing Palin: Two Conservative Women Look Out For #1
    Cheney should take them hunting.
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