<![CDATA[Jezebel: fundamentalist church of latter-day saints]]> http://tags.gawker.com/assets/base/img/thumbs140x140/jezebel.com.png <![CDATA[Jezebel: fundamentalist church of latter-day saints]]> http://jezebel.com/tag/fundamentalistchurchoflatterdaysaints http://jezebel.com/tag/fundamentalistchurchoflatterdaysaints <![CDATA[God, What An Idiot, That Guy Running The Country. So…What's The Game Plan Regarding Sex & The City?]]> What is going on here? Is Al Qaeda really internally imploding while this guy is still in office? What did the Mormon mind control pedophiles do to warrant getting their kids back? What the fuck is Condi Rice doing with KISS? What does Peggy Noonan make of Scott McClellan? Is Scott McClellan crushing on Obama? What's a cluster bomb and why don't we ban them? What really happened with Bear Stearns? Megan and I try to answer these questions in spite of the fact we can BARELY FORM THOUGHTS amidst all this restless Carriemania, after the jump.

MOE: The Douche-oisie?
MEGAN: You gotta thank T-Rex for that one. "I have a new term for all those nebbishy young men in DC/NY with their unsold novels and their delusions of literary lionization. The Douche-oisie."

MOE: Um there are dudes in DC like that? Nevermind, I don't want to know. Don't spoil it for me. I was very content assuming everyone in DC liked to peddle their fictions "nonfiction." Insufferable, in a way I've always been slightly more inclined to suffer. But it's reminding me of the Marxist critique of the Sex & The City movie my sister just sent me…

MEGAN: I am sitting here trying to reconcile the mental picture of a Marxist paying $10 (or sucking up to PR people) to see a movie (let alone actually watching it) that, at a minimum, glorifies conspicuous consumption. Also, I will admit I sorta don't care to see it, even if I have to give up my girl card. I never thought she should end up with Big, I always thought he sorta sucked and I thought the finale was a disappointing cop-out and so I don't care anymore.
8:30 AM
MOE: Yeah, I basically thought Big was the only good thing in a sea of really fucking boring people. Miranda's husband I also liked. Aidan gave me the vapors.Peggy Noonan on McClellan. She defends him, says he should be defended as a contributor to the historical record, finds the triteness of his insights and the obviousness of his argument "all too believable" — not to mention the fact that he has no defenders. "I want to quote his defenders, but he doesn't have any." OH PEGGY. You might have checked this little blog we know… It only quotes you every Friday…

MEGAN: Did we really defend him? I mean, I guess I do believe him because he doesn't say anything that isn't playing into Bush's shitty approval ratings.
MOE: ARGHHHHH SO WHAT.
MEGAN: Also, I give a hells yeah to Steve (Miranda's husband) and Aidan. Yum.
MOE: He's not running for anything!
MEGAN: Bush? Yes, thankfully.
MEGAN: I mean, I hate to find myself agreeing with Peggy here, but it's like, wow, Scott McClellan felt out-of-the-loop and lied to? I'm actually only surprised that he noticed and said something about it.
MOE: McClellan. That's the thing. Dude writes a book. No discernible agenda of self-servingness. About the excesses and evils of the "constant campaign." And everyone's like, "What's the campaign?" and "I don't see how this is going to affect the campaign," and "Why didn't he tell us this when it could have impacted a campaign?"
MOE: In any case he's got a crush on Obama
MEGAN: Oh, well, he didn't say it when it could affect a campaign because he was still working there. Duh. Also, would it have changed anyone's mind in 2004? Doubtful. Kerry lost by a bunch.
MEGAN: I love how it's him and Jenna against the world on that one.
MEGAN: Whoa, wait. Maybe it's not Obama on whom he has a crush?
MOE: Milbank mockery
MEGAN:

He's a bit thinner around the middle, and the sideburns are comically longer

MEGAN: Damn, dude, mocking a man's facial hair?
MOE: Dude do you remember Robbie in My Three Sons? Those were some comical sideburns, especially when it switched to color.
MEGAN: I have seen comical sideburns, sir, and I pronounce McClellan's wispy and a bit sparse, possibly in need of a good shaving, but I wouldn't call them "comical"
MOE: Oh shit some dude is aping your steez but …so much more cringetacularly!

Soup to nuts? Campbell's and Planters are here for the looking. I can't think of a single sector of the American economy that directly or indirectly doesn't have some sort of Washington representation.

MOE: Um I love how Condi Rice is recovering from being so pilloried by McClellan.
MEGAN: That's a week late and a dollar short, dude. Also, Mr. Korologos is a former Bush appointee, and is now a "strategic adviser" which means he does everything up to the point of official lobbying in order to avoid registration. So, um, what a great defender. Someone who uses his former position to almost lobby but stay under the radar.
MEGAN: Ugh, I seriously, seriously cannot see Gene Simmons anymore without flashing back to the demoralizing experience of seeing his sex tape. That was cringetastic and unimpressive. Spits on his finger to be able to finger the fake-titted chick. Small penis. Never removes his shirt. That line from Bridget Jones never seemed so apt: "Coitus is brief and perfunctory."
MOE: Ah! I often use the word "perfunctory" to describe sex sessions. I didn't realize Bridget Jones — well, that and distinctly shitty taste in dudes — was to blame. That is so depressing. Let's talk about something else!! Victory on Al Qaeda perhaps? That epic Bear Stearns series? The Fundamentalist Pedophiles being awarded their inbred children? It's all so heartening.

MEGAN: Oh, don't forget Obama's new clergy problem. This time, he's white!

MEGAN: Oh, by the way, you can go watch it right here. Why in the world would they not have stopped taping the sermons, anyway?
MEGAN: Oh, by the way, speaking of bombshells, 111 countries formally adopted a treaty to eliminate cluster bombs yesterday. Just guess who the big hold outs were? Us, Russia, China, Israel, India and Pakistan. We're always in such great company on these things.
MOE: Hahahaha China and Pakistan! They're just like US!
MEGAN: On this and the death penalty and torture! Hoorah!
9:20 AM
MEGAN: Oh, great, the Burmese junta has decided that it doesn't need any stinkin' refugee camps.
MOE: CIA director Michael Hayden:

"The fact that we have kept [Americans] safe for pushing seven years now has got them back into the state of mind where 'safe' is normal," he said. "Our view is: Safe is hard-won, every 24 hours."

Inspiring! Me to throw up!!
MOE: So what's the deal with the polygamists? Why do they get their kids back? How did that happen? Etc. etc.

MEGAN: They get their kids back as soon as they can, I guess. It seems that the Texas Supreme Court ruled that the state had failed to prove immediate danger to all the kids, since that's the standard.
MOE: Oh god and more.
MEGAN: Like, obviously, infants weren't about to be married off and shit. The state tried to argue that just being raised in the community was turning the boys into cousin-marrying pedos, but the courts didn't buy it.
MOE: BUT WHY?
MEGAN: Because they couldn't prove it.
MEGAN: I mean, let's just all admit that our legal system is pretty fucked, but it's less fucked than a lot of others.
MOE: Here's the dissenting opinion though it also concedes:

On this record, however, I agree that there was no evidence of imminent “danger to the physical health or safety” of boys and pre-pubescent
girls to justify their removal from the YFZ Ranch, and to this extent I join the Court’s opinion. Id. § 262.201(b)(1).

Maybe we should just redefine "imminent."

MEGAN: I guess it's just, like, parents have the right to fuck their kids up, home school them and teach them that humans co-existed with dinosaurs in the garden of Eden and that a woman should aspire to no more than to be a good wife to whomever she's told to marry.
MEGAN: They just don't have to right to physically abuse them or force them to have sex.
MOE: NO THEY FUCKING DON'T
MEGAN: Well, legally they do. Whether they ought to is a different question.
MEGAN: Should the state decide which religious views are valid, short of one that requires or encourages physical or sexual abuse?
MEGAN: Should the state decide by which moral values you should raise your kids?
MOE: What's on the books w/r/t cults? This is fucking mind control. They created their own totalitarian parasite state within a state, which is the only reason it's managed to survive for more than a century, and it has nothing to do with values!

MEGAN: I mean, I guess I feel like, great, if they choose my moral values, that could be totally cool but do I trust the government to choose my values? And I sure as hell fucking don't. I don't trust that they won't decide that some ignorant fucking Christian piece of shit females-aren't-as-good pastor gets to decide.
MEGAN: There isn't anything on the books about cults. As long as there's no physical or sexual coercion, they're legal. You're allowed to brainwash your followers as long as you don't stockpile weapons, try to kill everyone or fuck children.
MEGAN: Luckily for law enforcement, the really scary ones rely on physical coercion, stockpiling weapons, killing people and fucking underage girls. I mean, that's obviously unlucky for the people involved.
MOE: You know about Germany. Don't they have some decent laws on this matter?

MEGAN: Sort of. I mean, Germany's basically a two-religion state (Lutherism and Catholicism) with some provisions made for Jews. In fact, your tax dollars support the Church to which you belong, interestingly. They don't recognize Scientology as a religion, I'm given to understand but will no doubt be corrected, in no small part because to advance within the religion costs you money. They view Scientology (and, in my opinion, rightly so) as a money-making enterprise. They do allow regular LDS (i.e., Mormons) despite the tithing "requirements" of that Church.

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<![CDATA[The Polygamy Economy: Like Most Socialist Utopias, It Gives Socialism A Bad Name]]> Sure, there are the sex beds and the surveillance towers and the hairdos and the unprecedented rate of birth defects, but at the end of the day, I am a nerd and the biggest source of curiosity regarding the members of the Fundamentalist Church of Latter-Day Saints is where they get their money and how they are using it. So thank you, Portfolio for your May story about the accountant appointed by the state of Utah to manage the $110 million Pederasty Economy. Bruce Wisan was appointed to privatize the property once controlled by Warren Jeffs, who was a destructive lunatic who played a sort of Stalin to his dad's Lenin. Jeffs would order grain elevators dismantled in the middle of the night; if he decided to purge a man from the community — which happened often when that man coveted one of the others' wives or houses — he trained teams to "move a house in less than an hour."

Jeffs closed businesses and nickel-and-dimed members so severely they actually ended up buying most things with big Tupperware containers of nickels and dimes, and eventually funneled millions into the Texas ranch that got raided earlier this year. When he was finally caught the place was impoverished and in shambles and now Wisan has to try to preach the gospel of personal property and the free market. A story that may shake your faith in Marxism, folks!

Satan's Accountant [Portfolio]
Related: FLDS Elder Decries "Terrorist Acts" In Letter To Bush [CNN]
Earlier: Please Do Not Cry For Those Poor Polygamist Wives, Fox News

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<![CDATA[All About Alleged Rapist Bill Cosby, Because April 15 Is About How Other People Need To Start Taking Responsibility!]]> Happy Tax Day, Jezebels! God it is depressing today. We decided to read that lengthy Atlantic piece about Bill Cosby's haterist theories and got depressed about Bill Cosby being depressed about black people. Then we got depressed that the story devoted all of a sentence to allegations Bill Cosby had sexually assaulted 13 women. We got depressed about the food shortages and the kids for whom the only honest job in town is at a Foot Locker that's about to close and the Italians but then we found a passage from Obama's first book about hanging out with his Jarvis Cocker college crew rolling cigarettes and being alienated and Marxist and somehow that made it all okay again, probably because we are still self-absorbed assholes in arrested development who don't actually have problems beyond figuring out where the fuck we put our W-2s when we were drunk. Myself, Glamocracy's Megan, Cindy McCain's plagiarized recipes and so much more after the jump.

MEGAN: I have decided that CNN's morning show has become The Today Show and can't watch it anymore despite the hotness of Sanjay Gupta. MSNBC is my only alternative despite Joe Scarborough's dickishness (today: he's going to buy a Tahoe hybrid, which gets shittier gas mileage than my 8 year old Corolla but the Tahoe is biiiiiig unlike his dick) but since I'm apparently being a dick today it's working for me. Sort of. I wish I hadn't given my collection of stress balls to that guy I was dating last year when he was quitting smoking because I could now be throwing them at the TV.
MOE: I haven't watched TV or really slept very much in a very, very long time. I'm a total shutin, trying to write prettily the tale of antibiotic resistant bacteria for this epic piece I can't seem to finish even as I'm sort of fascinated by microbiology.

MEGAN: You know what's fucked? My parents' neighbor's daughter, who is 3 or 4 years younger than me, has had a drug resistant flesh-eating staph infection for the last 6 months.
MOE: I guess I should at the very least read Drudge, or this is going to be one of those things where it's like "oh, Moe's gotten REALLLY stupid hasn't she."
MEGAN: She's been in and out of the hospital and they're only now maybe kind of sure she won't lose her arm and she's like 25.
MEGAN: Nah, actually, reading Drudge will make you stupid, I think. The Pope is here! Obama's not hope-y! Clinton's on the attack! And McCain isn't that bad!
MOE: It's the affliction of our thoughtless Cold War antibiotics policies. We've given the bacteria all these opportunities to create these radicalized master races with our indiscriminate use of antibiotics.
MEGAN: Got a cold? Have some antibiotics! Got an ear infection perhaps? Enjoy! Yummy amoxicilin!
MOE: Whenever you take 3 days worth of amoxicillin to kill a cold that you thought was maybe a sinus infection, you're funding terrorism.
MOE: Or like, eating meat.
MEGAN: Yeah, beef. Damn beef.

MEGAN: Corn fed beef that's spent its life as a cow crapping all over and being crapped on by other cows necessitating a constant stream of antibiotics to keep them from getting sick before slaughter because, really, it takes a really special slaughterhouse to still slaughter a downer cow and feed it to the populace and the USDA is getting so mean about that these days. What? It's not like we've got BSE in this country. Or, um, but we totally got it from Canada! Only when we didn't! Whatever, everyone should take our meat anyway.
MOE: OMG Cindy McCain is totally the next coming of Jessica Seinfeld. And they use them in pork and chickens too. It's not so much to resist infection (because um, duh, when you feed cows a constant supply of antibiotics it's not going to really do anything about the infections after awhile) but to fatten them up faster. They grow like 12% faster for some reason. I think it has to do with the gut flora but I don't really know.
MOE: I love this:

This past Sunday, Lauren Handel, an eagle-eyed attorney from New York, was searching for a specific recipe from Giada DeLaurentis, a chef on the Food Network. Yet whenever she Googled the different ingredients in the recipe, the oddest thing happened: not only did the Food Network's site come up, as expected, but so did John McCain's campaign site.
Lauren Handel, you are an upstanding citizen!
MEGAN: I feel like Cindy could've gotten away with the pasta dish because it's so simple, but who the fuck has a "family recipe" for Ahi Tuna with Napa cabbage slaw? From Colorado?
MOE: Okay so the pope comes today and I wanted to point out, because I forgot this yesterday, that this New York Times interview with 25 Catholics in five cities across the country about what Catholics wanted the Pope to talk about had nary an utterance of the word abortion, and the two or three references to the gays all seemed to be like "we have to be more inclusive towards the gays." Which, uh, yeah right. But it was fascinating to me, because, you know, did they curate them? Or do 25 out of 25 urban catholics agree that they can shut up about abortion already?
MEGAN: I think Catholics just want the Pope to shut up about abortion and birth control. I'm pretty sure my mom does.
MOE: Oh man the brainwashed wives of Pervy Day Saints are "speaking out" about the breakups of their families. Sigh.

MEGAN: Yeah, I saw that yesterday. Old men fucking their 12-year-old daughters? Totes fine. Cops talking to them about it? Baaaad.

MEGAN: But MSNBC yesterday had an interview with a former sect member who was all, hey, that bitch you're showing crying about her kids? Yeah, she used to beat mine.
MOE: Bob Herbert re bittergate:

But there is something perverse in the effort to portray Senator Obama — who has tried hard to promote a message of unity and healing — as some kind of divisive figure.
Oh yeah and I guess Lieberman says it's a good question to ask whether Obama is a Marxist.
MEGAN: Yup.
MOE: And here we have your answer, Joementum! Courtesy the digital edition of Dreams of My Father...
MEGAN: Oh, and that's the official Fox News refrain, by the way. He's a Marxist... Marxist... Marxist... Marxist. I heard it 5 times an hour at least yesterday. But there's no echo chamber there.
MOE:
To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxit professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets. We smoked cigarettes and wore leather jackets. At night, in the dorms, we discussed neocolonialism, Franz Fanon, Eurocentrism, and patriarchy. When we ground out our cigarettes in the hallway carpet or set our stereos so loud that the walls began to shake, we were resisting bourgeois society's stifling constraints. We weren't indifferent or careless or insecure. We were alienated.

MOE: OMG IT'S THE SMOKING GUN RIGHT????
MEGAN: Gosh, Harvard must have been sooo cognitively dissonant. He was friends with feminists! And punks!
MOE: Oh and speaking of great literature, just two more years for the Rumsfeld memoir!
MOE: Oh that was at Columbia btw.
MEGAN: Oh, yes, that bastion of anti-bourgeois sentiment.
MOE: Italy elected that Berlusconi guy. I didn't really realize he'd left but actually now that I am reading about it yeah Romano Prodi got defeated. They are suffering from zero economic growth so apparently there is dissatisfaction. Oh boo hoo Italians, you get paid in Euros and you get to live in Italy.
MEGAN: With a bunch of pasta and good wine and you somehow they never get really fat and all women are sexy.
MOE: Love it:
"The rest of Europe will just roll its eyes, sigh and say, 'Here we go again,' but there's nothing they can do about it," said John Harper, a professor of political science at the Bologna branch of Johns Hopkins University.

MEGAN: Also, Berlusconi sucks. He sucks a lot. He's a corrupt, sexist pig.

MEGAN: But, apparently, in Italy that's sort of okay which is why he got re-elected.
MOE: Ohkay, Geoff Davis. Nasty racist congressman refers to Obama as snake oil salesman, was less impressed with this World of Warcraft game than he was with his bowling score!

He said in his remarks at the GOP dinner that he also recently participated in a "highly classified, national security simulation" with Obama.
"I'm going to tell you something: That boy's finger does not need to be on the button," Davis said. "He could not make a decision in that simulation that related to a nuclear threat to this country."

MEGAN: Yeah, by the way, here's the website for the guy running against Davis in the fall as a sacrificial lamb.
MOE: McCain is going to talk about the economy today and how Wall Street is greedy and he wants to cut taxes for businesses and capital gains. No more balanced budget by 2012 promise. Great.
MEGAN: Um, wait, please explain. So, Wall Street is greedy, so they should pay lower taxes on gains made on Wall Street? Does not compute.
MEGAN: Oh, for Chrissakes. He's talking about creating YET ANOTHER alternative tax system. Because, really, the problem isn't that the current system is too complex or anything which results in one's actual tax rate being significantly different from the supposed tax rate.
MEGAN: And he's going to cut the corporate tax rate by 10% but no word on whether he'll eliminate credits which makes the rate companies actually pay lower than the real rate, either.
MOE: Dude, honestly, I want Huckabee's tax plan. Especially today. Speaking of Obama and Marxism his father wrote an economic policy paper for some scholarly journal and it contains the words "socialism" AND "communism," which is truly blasphemous.
MEGAN: OMG, thou must not speaketh the evil words!

MEGAN: Also, I love that this is the overarching analysis of the paper's prescience:

We had high economic growth for years, but never solved the problems of poverty, unemployment and unequal income distribution. And those problems are still there
But he's actually talking about Kenya, not the U.S.
MOE: Well, it's really hard to achieve high economic growth without fostering income inequality. That's sort of the problem with high economic growth. And...speaking of blaspheme did you read that Atlantic story about Bill Cosby?
MOE:
Behind the scenes, Cosby hired the Harvard psychiatrist Alvin Poussaint to make sure that the show never trafficked in stereotypes and that it depicted blacks in a dignified light. Picking up Cosby's fixation on education, Poussaint had writers insert references to black schools. "If the script mentioned Oberlin, Texas Tech, or Yale, we'd circle it and tell them to mention a black college," Poussaint told me in a phone interview last year. "I remember going to work the next day and white people saying, 'What's the school called Morehouse?'" In 1985, Cosby riled NBC by placing an anti-apartheid sign in his Huxtable son's bedroom. The network wanted no part of the debate. "There may be two sides to apartheid in Archie Bunker's house," the Toronto Star quoted Cosby as saying. "But it's impossible that the Huxtables would be on any side but one. That sign will stay on that door. And I've told NBC that if they still want it down, or if they try to edit it out, there will be no show." The sign stayed.

MEGAN: That's kind of awesome. I mean, wtf is with NBC being like, OMG, it might be bad to be against apartheid?

MOE: Well, since then, you know, he's become kind of the Cedric character in Barbershop. In Philadelphia we did a lot of stories about all the charges that he'd had a big problem groping and dateraping women or something. There do not seem to be mentions of those in this story, which depicts him as a well-intentioned hater.

MEGAN: Yeah, whatever happened with that? Those were some vicious stories.
MEGAN: Also, I love how the death of his son isn't presented at all as a potential reason for the change in his public demeanor.
MOE: 13 women is a lot to ignore.
MEGAN: And, yet, somehow The Atlantic Ta-Nehisi Coates manage to do so. Strange that.
MEGAN: Oh, um, maybe not that strange. Ta-Nehisis is a dude. Married to a woman named Kenyatta, to bring it back to Obama's father's critique.
MOE: And yes, I think that would make you a candidate for the "bitter" category. To be honest, everyone in this damn country needs to grow the fuck up, stop spending so much money, stop watching reality TV, invest in an Economist subscription, learn a foreign language, and help others now and again.
MEGAN: But The Deadliest Catch's new season premieres tonight on the Discovery Channel! That doesn't count as "reality" TV right?

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<![CDATA[This Week We Hung Out With A Lot Of Child Molesters]]>

  • OMG I almost forgot about that Australian father and daughter who fuck and have babies. Oh ew.
  • Can't some people just have a nice, normal wedding that doesn't involve incest, polygamy, statutory rape, fake boobs or Botox?
  • Mommablogger Dooce appears to be a fairly reasonable person whose wedding probably didn't involve any of those things.
  • Karl Lagerfeld hates Dooce's kid, though. Actually he hates all children. And also fat people!
  • You know who probably had kind of shitty moms? Those horrid teenage cheerleader bitches who beat the living hell out of their friend and may now face life in prison.
  • So make a bonfire out of Cosmo's "Sexy" issue, and rip off that bandanna you've been wearing. Let it all hang out this weekend!
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<![CDATA[Four. Years.]]> The latest charming detail to emerge from the Texas Church of Latter-Day Old Fuckers Who Prey On Tweens: the "Sex Temple." (Not to be confused with the surveillance tower guarding the Sex Temple.) Click the pic to read two of the creepiest sections of the search warrant. [The Smoking Gun]

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<![CDATA[Your Nagging Ancient Mormon Underage Sex Cult Questions, Answered At Last!]]> So these polygamists: how did they pull it off? How did Warren Jeffs find time time to impregnate 70 women and run from the law? When your spiritual leader is on the FBI's 10 Most Wanted List and you've been chased out of two states and your creepy molestation cult is the subject of a Jon Krakauer book, just how do you go about finding the proper plot in West Texas on which to build your theme park-sized compound and commence bilking the government? Don't these people have a problem with birth defects? What of all the excess dudes? 100 years we've been putting up with this? What, is there some formidable pro-polygamy lobby keeping authorities from charging all these creepy old men marrying 13-year-olds because it will "break up families? (A: yes!) Didn't homeowners in El Dorado fear the whole "Waco" stigma? (Also yes!) Why was a sixteen-year-old who didn't even know how to spell her name the proverbial smoking gun here? And what's with the macro diet? Does it make up for all the inbreeding? Glamocracy's Megan Carpentier and I yearn to know more about Yearning For Zion, and we do all the morbid internet research so you don't have to, after the jump.

MOE: Okay, can I just say...these guys have been the subject of a fucking John Krakauer book, their fugitive leader was on the FBI's 10 Most Wanted List as of a year ago...how...just how is it that 412 girls are being rescued only now?
MEGAN: Well, I watched the presser two days ago and the prosecutor was like: we needed evidence, and we needed probable cause. We didn't have those things without a witness and we can't just harass people because of their religious beliefs and I was kinda of like, go Texas. Only then, you know, 412 girls. Civil liberties aren't always black and white.

MOE: Hm, okay, that sounds to me like some bullshit. If this shit were happening in Philadelphia the police woulda just gone and firebombed their asses. But seriously, being a church affords you certain protections from like, forensic accounting investigation, right? From the sounds of this Texas Monthly story about the construction of the Eldorado ranch — related question: where'd they put all those girls while they were constructing the thing? Tents? — these guys had to be committing some sort of basic financial fraud that might granted them a few search warrants. Is the FLDS actually recognized by the IRS as a church? Shouldn't it be a cult? Isn't polygamy banned...uh...everywhere in this country? So many questions
MOE:

What's more, said Jessop, Jeffs has taught his followers to "bleed the beast": to take advantage of any government assistance they can get, from food stamps and public welfare to medical care. Some reporters who follow FLDS activities say that tens of millions of dollars a year in welfare and other government funds go to the Colorado City-Hildale community. The very same thing was no doubt about to happen in Eldorado, Jessop said.

MEGAN: Yeah, the welfare thing is how they've gotten a lot of polygamists, legally, as is the legally-binding ceremonies thing which is why they're seemingly avoiding them now.
MEGAN: I mean, under the law, your wife is your wife and the rest are just your girlfriends regardless of what non-legal hoodoo is said over you at the altar.
MOE: Also, can you explain what's behind their aggressive hippie diet? Apparently they were suspiciously thin for Eldorado Texas. Which, I enjoy noting, is pronounced "El dorayydo."
MEGAN: Yeah, I mean, I wondered that, too. The Amish and Mennonites never seemed crazy thin to me, and there's a big community of Amish out by my aunt and uncle in upstate New York.
MEGAN: So my initial thought was it must be a lack of processed foods and such, but with uncontrolled breeding it's probably just scarce resources.
MOE: Has there ever been an SVU about this? Or is it lacking a New Yorky angle? Because all I can think of is how this is just the same as NAMBLA.

MEGAN: Well, only without the Man-Boy love aspect of NAMBLA. It's MANGLA
MEGAN: er, NAMGLA, but the other way is funnier.
MEGAN: Also, this part made me cross my legs in horror:

In fact, said an Arizona county official who came with Jessop to the press conference, the sole responsibility of females in the FLDS is to submit to their husbands and give birth to babies "until their insides drop out."

MEGAN: Isn't the technical term for that vaginal prolapse? And isn't it, like, REALLY bad for you?
MOE: Here's a little Jessop quote from when they were building the ranch.
At city hall, Mankin ran across a compound resident named Ernie Jessop, who was trying to find out some information about water rights. "You know, things would be a lot better around here if you had a spokesman to speak to our community instead of acting so secretive," Mankin told him.
"Sir, we don't talk to outsiders," Jessop said. "That's the way my grandfather was, the way my father was, the way I was raised, and the way I will raise my children. It's a tradition. We congregate to ourselves."

MOE: And here's what I don't get. You're born into this sect that demands numerous wives for every male. How do you deal with the demographic imbalance? Do you have to smuggle in girls from Cambodia? And does Elizabeth Smart have anything to do with this? And where is Krakauer to explain all this?
MOE: Also, does Warren Jeffs at least get assraped in prison?
MEGAN: Apparently, they just expel the extra boys.

MEGAN: That's been in some of the news reports. They expel some of the younger men so that the old ones can marry their classmates. Grody. Also, one would think, unsustainable in the long term.
MEGAN: And I'm sure Jeffs is segregated from the general population.
MEGAN: Or in a mental facility.
MOE: Here's a story about Krakauer trying to find Warren Jeffs in 2005.


"Krakauer is actively investigating a lot of things, including the whereabouts of Warren Jeffs," said Paul Murphy, spokesman for Utah Attorney General Mark Shurtleff.
I love how the AG office is speaking on behalf of a writer. NO word on what the Utah AG office is up to!
MOE: Don't you feel like the AG of the Mormon state would want to be more aggressive in...like...seizing their assets?
MEGAN: Yeah, the feds or the Arizonans got Jeffs, didn't they?
MEGAN: I seem to recall that they tried that, only there's some crazy complex legal structure that made it nigh impossible to do without violating laws. I mean, the sect's been around flouting laws and Mormon tradition for more than 100 years and they're not poor by any means. I think they're structured themselves to stymie prosecution pretty well at this point, which is why they always need a cooperating witness.
MOE: Yeah, they did about a year ago.
MOE: Yeah, but they're FUCKING LITTLE GIRLS.
MOE: Fun fact: the most prominent ex-polygamist activist invented a popular tooth-bleaching product called Ultradent.
MOE: Have here been any good interviews with castoff boys?
"Boys are fined and harassed by the police, who are sworn to uphold the law but serve as minions of Warren Jeffs," Krakauer said. "Hundreds of these boys over the past four years have been cast out. Most of them end up on the streets of (Las) Vegas or St. George," where they turn to drugs or prostitution.

MEGAN: Yeah, there was this story last year in the New York Times. They're some fucked up kids.
MEGAN:

The problem of surplus males worsened in the 1990s when the late prophet Rulon Jeffs, Warren Jeffs's father, took on dozens of young wives — picking the prettiest, most talented girls, said DeLoy Bateman, a high school teacher who watched it happen. Warren Jeffs, taking the mantle after his father's death in 2002, adopted most of his father's wives and married others, and also began assigning more wives to his trusted church leaders, former members say. Forced departures increased.

MEGAN:
MOE: It looks like the Phoenix New Times has been on the case pretty hard-core.

MEGAN: Yeah, despite Big Love, people find polygamists creepy. Who'd'a thunk?
MOE: Well, apparently they didn't always find them as creepy. Check this 2002 story.It uncovered an internal Arizona AG memo detailing the accusations against the FLDS but not advocating...criminal prosecutions?

Colorado City was once called Short Creek. It became infamous in 1953 after Governor Howard Pyle ordered state police to arrest and jail all married men on charges of bigamy, adultery and rape. Pyle also ordered the National Guard to round up all the women and children and bring them to Phoenix, where they were held as wards of the state for two years.
Pyle's action proved disastrous to his political future. Photographs of police pulling babies from their fathers' arms inflamed public opposition to the raid. Prosecutors were unable to secure significant convictions because it was difficult to prove bigamy since most of the marriages were not legally recorded.
"You get killed quicker in government doing your duty than turning your back," Pyle was quoted as saying at the time, according to a March 4, 2001, article in the Denver Post.
Pyle was defeated in the next election.

MOE:
The hands-off policy continued during former attorney general and governor Bruce Babbitt's era. In a 1986 Associated Press article, Babbitt defended the residents as hardworking, God-fearing people and said he did not want to delve into personal lives.
Hahaha I wonder if John McCain has ever said anything dumb about the whole "many wives" tradition.
MOE: You can never have enough cunts around
MEGAN: Bruce Babbitt, people should recall, was Clinton's Interior Secretary and was held in contempt of court for most of his time in office for actively refusing to provide a timely and accurate accounting of the money owed to Native Americans for resource rights taken by the federal government and awarded to private companies. Live and let live, people.
MOE: Here's another amazing thing:
Mohave County Supervisor Buster Johnson says Napolitano told the group that her office was continuing to investigate activities in Colorado City.
"They don't have enough documentation to charge anybody with any crimes," Johnson says he was told by Napolitano.
Johnson says he's been investigating allegations of child abuse, sex crimes and welfare fraud in Colorado City since becoming a supervisor six years ago. The former Los Angeles County sheriff's deputy says he's interviewed more than 30 former church members who have fled Colorado City.
Johnson says he has been told of repeated instances of underage girls being forced into marriage, child abuse, child labor law violations, welfare fraud, rapes, assaults and mental cruelty. Young boys are also abused, he says. Boys who are deemed to be unruly and who will not follow church doctrine are dumped onto the streets of Salt Lake City to fend for themselves, he says.

MOE: A county supervisor was investigating this shit, but the feds weren't.
MOE: And thanks for the Babbitt context. I totes forgot.
MEGAN: Freedom of religion and such. Plus, they were too busy reading our email and tapping our phones and looking up out library records fighting terrorism, Moe, duh.
MOE: Hahahaha, here's another great New Times overview of the practice. Apparently they were receiving about $6 million a year in federal aid. Part of how they preserve capital, it seems, besides bleeding the state, is evicting men all the time. I know it's not...up there with...the war...but seriously?! Maybe if the Feds got some practice on these guys they could nail the Church of Scientology finally?
MEGAN: Hey, speaking of Scientology, did you know that they're actively considered a cult and banned in Germany? And that John Travolta lobbied Bill Clinton to speak to Helmut Kohl and Gerhard Schoeder about how they aren't a cult and he did?
MEGAN: Also, I think the FLDS bleeds the state but keeps the money for itself rather than allowing individual sect members to have any money or property because it allows the sect leaders to more effectively assert control over their followers.
MOE: Yes, I did know that and Clinton is a tool.

MOE: Where does the natural foods diet come from?
MOE: Whoa, check this out from a Dallas Observer piece:

"They are not a threat to your children; they are a threat to their own children," she said of the polygamists, mentioning in passing child abuse, forced marriage of teenage girls, child labor, welfare fraud, tax fraud and other horrors. "They have a commune in Canada. They use it to mix up the blood. Birth defects are starting to become noticeable. If a young girl starts to get rebellious, wants to get out, they'll send her to a foreign country."

MEGAN: Oh, gross.
MEGAN: Also, I just Googled "Bible diet" and got 243,000 results, so I'm guessing the natural foods diet comes from somewhere in there but I'm too lazt to scroll that far. I'm gonna guess it involves lots of fish and not so much pork and shrimp.
MOE: Oh there's a What Would Jesus Eat? diet and a Hallelujah diet and about 1928 other bestselling Christian diet books, but this one seemed particularly stringent.
MEGAN: Well, if they don't have money and can't go shopping and have to eat what they grow, it sounds like a poverty diet.
MOE: I think diets are another form of mind-control. Like Gwen Shamblin, who does the Weigh Down diet, she has a compound in Tennessee that some people have accused of being a cult because she advocates corporal punishment to keep your kids pure of gluttony and one kid ended up dying.
MEGAN: Weight Watcher people did always seem a little shifty-eyed to me, I have to admit.]]>
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<![CDATA[Authorities Take 400 More Kids From Polygamist Sect In Texas]]> As of this morning, Texan authorities have taken custody of 401 children from the polygamist sect The Fundamentalist Church of Latter Day Saints (FLDS). As previously reported, Texas child protective services was acting on a tip from a 16-year-old girl inside the compound who said that she was forced to marry 50-year-old convicted sex offender Dale Barlow at the age of 15 and bear his child. Among the 401 children and 133 women who have been taken from the 1,900 acre FLDS compound outside Eldorado, Texas, police have still been unable to find the teen informant, as many of the women and children share the same last names or have multiple given names. Court proceedings to determine whether to remove the children permanently began yesterday, and officials are trying to determine whether to send every child from the compound into a foster home.

Marleigh Meisner, the spokeswoman for Texas child protective services, tells CNN that the agency is trying to keep siblings together in the event that they are taken from their parents, but that there is already a critical shortage of foster homes; she tells CBS News the FLDS kids would have a tough time acclimating to modern life.

The children who lived at the Yearning For Zion ranch had little or no contact with the outside world. According to former sect member Carolyn Jessop, who used to be married to the alleged leader of the YFZ compound, "Once you go into the compound, you don't ever leave it." She adds that the community focuses on self-sufficiency because they believe the end is neigh; women are under particular control, including a ban on cutting their hair or wearing red. (Cult leader Warren Jeffs, who is currently in jail on charges stemming from arranging a marriage between a 14-year-old girl and her 19-year-old cousin and allegedly fathered 56 children by 40 wives, says that the color red belongs to Jesus and so no mortal should wear it.)

It's hard to argue that Texas authorities should just sit idly by if they can prove that children are regularly abused at the FDLS compound, but there does seem to be something cruel and illogical about separating over 400 children from their mothers and thrusting them into a modern world for which they are ill-equipped. The FDLS has a reputation for exiling young men — nicknamed "the lost boys" — so that it can maintain a gender imbalance necessary for polygamy, and, according to The Guardian, these lost boys floundered outside compound walls, with no experience dealing with modern life and nothing to live for. The situations are not analogous, as the children taken from the YFZ ranch will be placed with foster parents, but the consequences might end up being just as severe for these kids experiencing brutal culture shock.

Texas Takes Legal Custody Of 401 Sect Children [CNN]
400 Children Taken From Polygamist Sect [CBS News]
The Lost Boys, Thrown Out Of US Sect So That Older Men Can Marry More Wives [Guardian]

Earlier: Polygamist Sect Raided On Charges Of Abuse Of Girls

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<![CDATA[Polygamist Sect Raided On Charges Of Abuse Of Girls]]> Acting on a tip from a 16-year-old church member, Texas Child Protective Services arranged a raid on Friday at the compound of the polygamist sect The Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, 200 miles outside San Antonio. According to the AP, the teen caller said she was married and had a baby at age 15 with registered sex offender Dale Barlow, 50 — a clear violation of Texas law, as girls under 16 are not allowed to be wed, even with parental approval. The most recent reports state that Texas State troopers removed 219 people out of the compound —a former exotic game ranch, now called Yearning For Zion (YFZ) by the controversial church — but they've been as yet unable to locate the caller who notified child protective services in the first place.

CPS spokeswoman Marleigh Meisner tells the AP: "We're always concerned anytime we have a victim and we can't find that victim. I am confident this girl does indeed exist." Dale Barlow, who was convicted last year of conspiracy to commit sexual conduct with a minor, is reportedly in Arizona at the Fundamentalist Church's other compound near the Utah border, and claims that he doesn't know the girl accusing him. According to his probation officer Bill Loader, Barlow has given a DNA sample and is cooperating with investigators.

This isn't the first time the Fundamentalist Church of Latter Day Saints, a splinter Mormon faction that allows polygamy, has made news. Its controversial leader Warren Jeffs is currently in a Utah jail for arranging a marriage between a 14-year-old girl and her 19-year-old cousin, and the church has a reputation for exiling young men so that there can be a gender imbalance that allows for polygamy to be the norm.

The town nearest to the YFZ Ranch, a tiny burg named Eldorado, has been housing the displaced women and children for the past few days, not without suspicion and a little fear — perhaps they envision another Waco. According to the Dallas Morning News, locals think that law enforcement has been waiting since Jeffs' arrest to raid the compound. Randy Mankin, the editor of the Eldorado Success newspaper, told the Morning News, Child Protective Services "got the tip they've been waiting for, and I think they had the plan in place for how they were going to deal with it." The 200 or so women and children remain at a historic fort in nearby San Angelo for now, as officials are still trying to find the 16-year-old victim.

Troopers Probe Texas Polygamist Compound [AP]
137 Children Removed From Polygamist Ranch [CNN]
Man Accused Of Impregnating Teenager In Connection With Texas Polygamy Raid Says He Doesn't Know His Accuser [Salt Lake Tribune]
State Still Searching For Children At Polygamist Sect's Ranch [Dallas Morning News]

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