My best friend took me to the hospital in the middle of the night during my worst cutting period - no questions asked. I did the same for her when she almost burned her apartment down. I was lucky in that aspect, that no matter what she would be there for me and I the same.
She just got married - does this mean I'm screwed? I really hope not. #friendship
What...what kind of insane bullshit is that? I would pick up ANY of my friends in the middle of the night if they needed it, whether or not they'd been roofied. But, obviously, if they've been fucking DRUGGED...
Jesus Christ, who the fuck are these people?
Now I'm worried, though, that maybe I can't rely on my friends to pick me up if it's the middle of the night and I've been drugged, and they're in their "beddie-byes". (Jesus CHRIST. Really? You're prioritizing your comfort over your friend's actual wellbeing?)
Is this an epidemic problem, or am I some kind of lunatic? #friendship
I actually had a friend of mine get roofied while with me. Though I was incredibly drunk myself, I managed to hail a cab, tell my mom my friend was sick, tuck her into my bed, take care of her, and make her breakfast the next morning. I was 17! 17! Honestly, those are some really fucking horrible friends.
I can't think of how I'd call myself a friend if I didn't offer a car ride, a shoulder, a floor or blow up mattress, a full bottle of booze, videos and cookies, extra clothes, a sympathetic ear, or bail money to my friends. And they'd do the same, too. That's why they're your friends.
I feel really sorry for this awful columnist. It sounds like she can't even imagine this.
It sounds as if these people the OP is talking about are actually NOT her friends.
I can't think of anyone I call a friend that would do that to me. I've had friends help me out when BOYFRIENDS wouldn't.
Shit, my roommate who I met on CRAIGSLIST would have picked me up at the hospital right after I moved in if I would have called her.
There is something wrong with those single female "friends".
F this shit. I would have been there for an enemy. It's called human decency. Hell, I once rented a car to go pick up a younger girl I only knew because of sorority connections when she got horribly drunk and kicked out of a club. Her other 'sisters' ditched her for boys and I was only called because the bouncer saw my name on her recently called list (she had called me to ask for sorority contributions).
@Adora Belle Dearheart: totally agree. I've had to take an undergrad girl I only sort of know home more than once because she's been a drunken mess. It's simple human kindness, I would never consider just leaving her (nor would I consider leaving my worst enemy!).
I'm sorry if this is an incredibly stupid question, but unclear on this policy--
A hospital won't "release" you unless you have another person pick you UP? What if I don't have anyone or don't want anyone to know I've been to the hospital? I can't just call a cab or something? WTF?
Am I the only one who sees a problem with this? If you're under the influence of drugs, I can understand needing someone to "pick you up", but other than that...? Could someone explain this to me?
@maude_flanders: It's because, at that point, she still needed someone to take care of her-- make sure she could get into her home, make sure she didn't fall and hit her head on the way to the toilet, etc. Ideally, because of costs, limited hospital bed space, and the increased risk of secondary infection from being in the hospital, the best thing for her was to go home. If she didn't have someone to provide the care she needed, then she needed to stay in the hospital until she was able to care for herself.
@AnotherJenn: It still doesn't answer my question--what would the hospital do if she had no one to call or didn't WANT to call anyone? Why wouldn't I be able to just ask someone to call me a cab?
@maude_flanders: You'd have to stay in hospital - it's not so much the "physically unable to get home" thing that means you need someone as the "unable to be left alone yet" bit.
@maude_flanders: I'm sorry, I guess I didn't make it clear that the hospital would keep her longer if she didn't have anyone to call or didn't want to call anyone. Or she could check out Against Medical Advice, in which case she'd have to sign forms releasing the hospital of any liability in case anything happened to her and then she could call herself a cab.
However, when people are still under the influence like that (if she still was), the hospital may have grounds to hold her against her will due to her inability to make an informed decision. Each hospital has protocol about when they can hold someone and it differs a bit so I'm not sure what that specific hospital would do.
God, it wouldn't even have to be a FRIEND that called me. If an acquaintance or co-worker were to call me saying "Someone intentionally drugged me and now I need help," I would be there. I'm not leaving another human being alone and vulnerable, and I'm sorry, I'M SORRY, but I judge harshly anybody who would.
I was on the subway home one night when the girl across from me on the train was passed out, dropped her purse, everything fell out of it, we tried to wake her, no dice. We piled everything back in her purse, found a cop. He tried to wake her, got frustrated, and just left again, this unconscious girl, on a subway at like 3 am. We decided, we're going to wake her, or we're going to call 911 and have her taken to the hospital. We managed to wake her, converse with her (though she was talking about unicorns and dildo's, not joking at all) and got her address (it made sense, considering the train we were on) and we got off the train at her stop, hailed a cab, bundled her in, told him her address, gave him money, she was semi conscious at this point. I STILL feel guilty that I didn't just get in the cab with her and make sure she got in her door ok.
I am 28 and I've never had a significant other and I've lived states away from my mother for years. I am just appalled by the advice-giver’s implication that single girls who lack those two attachments have no option but to lie around passed out in their own roofie drool. Thank God I (like many other posters) do have friends who don’t have such an outdated, limited concept of what relationships can be meaningful (or relied upon) or what it is to be decent to someone in need. And who’s to say that a boyfriend, if you do have one, is better than a friend in a time of crisis? I am my roommie’s emergency contact because she thinks I’d be better at handling some unexpected call than he would.
This is bullshit. I can see someone telling girls everywhere, "It's okay, you don't need to go everywhere with your friends, you can go to the theatre alone!" but emergencies? No! You need someone for that. In an emergency, there is a good chance you won't be thinking clearly because you're injured and (even if you're physically fine) have just been through a terrible ordeal. My mother has made it very clear that she's not interested in helping me if/when it's not convenient for her which means if I'm drugged and lying in the street at 3 AM, I can't call her. So what am I supposed to do? Just get a boyfriend so I have someone to take care of me? No! What happened to teaching women that they don't need to rely on a man? What happened to relying on sisterhood? I'm not getting a boyfriend (who I'll probably have to pay in sexual favors) just to take care of me!
P.S-Sorry for the rant but when you're basically a single, motherless daughter, the idea that you're not supposed to rely on friends in times of need is absolutely mindblowing! What are friends for?!
FYI, as a friend, I would have been there in .5 seconds, wearing brass knuckles, prepared to make the perpetrator of this offense pay... and you don't even have to be THAT good of a friend to elicit this reaction from me.
You know, reading through all of the comments reminds me of something. Several years ago, when I was with my ex, we had a group of friends that we knew because we were heavy into drugs and such. You could always count on these friends to be around on the weekend, because it meant drugs would be around.
Well, I remember one time, the ex and I had a huge fight over this girl who was getting too involved in our relationship, and it got crazy violent, and he stormed out with the girl and left me alone for three days. I called every single one of our friends and asked them to come stay with me because I wanted to die and I needed someone to distract me from my misery. ONE DUDE came by, and when he realized that I had nothing stronger than pot or beer, he left. I ended up blacking out from drinking so much, then coming to several hours later, covered in bruises. Clearly I needed to be with someone, but every single person in my life failed to step up and help me in my time of need.
I learned a hard lesson that day, which is that the people you get fucked up with are often not your friends - they are friends of the drug or the drink. Sounds like this is the case for this poor girl.
This is another iteration of the hated "Pull Yourself Up By Your Bootstraps" claptrap that Americans cannot seem to jettison. And where does it leave us? Abandoned and prone on a sidewalk, that's where.
@drinkwater: No it's not "Pull Yourself Up By Your Bootstraps" shit. It's the misogynistic "Girls Who Drink Are Sluts And Get What's Coming To Them" crapola.
If any of my friends called me, no matter what time it was, in an emergency like this, you bet your ass I would get out of bed, into a car and down to the hospital. I suspect every one of my friends would do the same for me. BECAUSE WE ARE FRIENDS. IT'S WHAT FRIENDS DO.
I don't know who this woman is, but I feel terribly for her friends. In fact, if I was one of her friends, I'd be accidentally deleting her number from my cell phone right about now.
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She just got married - does this mean I'm screwed? I really hope not. #friendship
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Jesus Christ, who the fuck are these people?
Now I'm worried, though, that maybe I can't rely on my friends to pick me up if it's the middle of the night and I've been drugged, and they're in their "beddie-byes". (Jesus CHRIST. Really? You're prioritizing your comfort over your friend's actual wellbeing?)
Is this an epidemic problem, or am I some kind of lunatic? #friendship
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I feel really sorry for this awful columnist. It sounds like she can't even imagine this.
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I can't think of anyone I call a friend that would do that to me. I've had friends help me out when BOYFRIENDS wouldn't.
Shit, my roommate who I met on CRAIGSLIST would have picked me up at the hospital right after I moved in if I would have called her.
There is something wrong with those single female "friends".
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A hospital won't "release" you unless you have another person pick you UP? What if I don't have anyone or don't want anyone to know I've been to the hospital? I can't just call a cab or something? WTF?
Am I the only one who sees a problem with this? If you're under the influence of drugs, I can understand needing someone to "pick you up", but other than that...? Could someone explain this to me?
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However, when people are still under the influence like that (if she still was), the hospital may have grounds to hold her against her will due to her inability to make an informed decision. Each hospital has protocol about when they can hold someone and it differs a bit so I'm not sure what that specific hospital would do.
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P.S-Sorry for the rant but when you're basically a single, motherless daughter, the idea that you're not supposed to rely on friends in times of need is absolutely mindblowing! What are friends for?!
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Well, I remember one time, the ex and I had a huge fight over this girl who was getting too involved in our relationship, and it got crazy violent, and he stormed out with the girl and left me alone for three days. I called every single one of our friends and asked them to come stay with me because I wanted to die and I needed someone to distract me from my misery. ONE DUDE came by, and when he realized that I had nothing stronger than pot or beer, he left. I ended up blacking out from drinking so much, then coming to several hours later, covered in bruises. Clearly I needed to be with someone, but every single person in my life failed to step up and help me in my time of need.
I learned a hard lesson that day, which is that the people you get fucked up with are often not your friends - they are friends of the drug or the drink. Sounds like this is the case for this poor girl.
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I don't know who this woman is, but I feel terribly for her friends. In fact, if I was one of her friends, I'd be accidentally deleting her number from my cell phone right about now.