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    Harper's Bazaar: Talking About That "Recession" Thing Is "Extremely Annoying" Now

    Stars Without Makeup!!! Is The New French Elle A "Step Back"?

    Photoshop Of Horrors In The New French Elle? Non!

    Nothing Says "Maturity" Quite Like Heidi Montag
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    Image of theovercoat theovercoat
    08/19/09

    In reply to Harper's Bazaar: Talking About That "Recession" Thing Is "Extremely Annoying" Now
    Kristin McMenamy is from my hometown. Whenever I look at her, she honestly has that distinct look that a lot of people I grew up with have.

    Also, I love to watch Cindy Crawford's Meaningful Beauty infomercial. It is so...over the top.
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    Image of Samanthrax Samanthrax
    08/19/09

    @theovercoat: I'm sorry. Are you saying people from Pennsylvania have a distinct look? Or just a certain part of Pennsylvania? That would make tons more sense.
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    Image of theovercoat theovercoat
    08/20/09

    @Samanthrax: I think it's a matter of growing up here and also that I just see it. It's not necessarily distinct and exact, but a certain vibe. But i could be just seeing something that isn't there.

    And actually, I think I did specify the town by saying the people I grew up with.

    In any case, she definitely has the accent.
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    08/19/09

    In reply to Harper's Bazaar: Talking About That "Recession" Thing Is "Extremely Annoying" Now
    That Harlem Renaissance editorial is fucking awesome, I think. And, I actually do like the composition of the Campbell photo with the elephant--kind of like a modern spin on that Avedon photo. The monkey thing.....I don't really know what to do with that.
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    Image of Crackers In Bed Crackers In Bed
    08/19/09

    In reply to Harper's Bazaar: Talking About That "Recession" Thing Is "Extremely Annoying" Now
    why is the model about to smack big bird?? :(
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    Image of kookla kookla
    08/19/09

    In reply to Harper's Bazaar: Talking About That "Recession" Thing Is "Extremely Annoying" Now
    They left out the disclaimer on one of Naomi's photos. "No crocodiles were harmed in the shooting of this editorial spread."
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    08/19/09

    @kookla: Save the ones she's wearing, naturally.
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    Image of kookla kookla
    08/19/09

    @indeedso: Oh...uh...awkward.
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    Image of Angsty_Academic Angsty_Academic
    08/19/09

    In reply to Harper's Bazaar: Talking About That "Recession" Thing Is "Extremely Annoying" Now
    I'm wondering whether successful, established models like Campbell have any input when it comes to creative direction. One would think that she could have declined to do this job if she found the primitivist tropes offensive, but do models have any say in how they are posed, what they wear, etc? Would it have been possible for her to compel the photographer to do a shoot that didn't marshal tired motifs of Black women as fetishized and animalistic? Perhaps someone with more knowledge of the modeling/fashion industry than I could shed some light on this.
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    08/19/09

    In reply to Harper's Bazaar: Talking About That "Recession" Thing Is "Extremely Annoying" Now
    Without the other images in the set, I kind of like the picture of Naomi Campbell on an elephant. She looks happy and like she's having a good time and elephants always make me smile. If it had been in a piece on, say, out of the way tourism and the other images had been in the English countryside and a Japanese fishing village it would be an absolutely adorable picture. In a spread that features her skipping rope with monkeys and racing a cheetah, it's absolutely loathsome.
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    Image of SarahMC SarahMC
    08/19/09

    In reply to Harper's Bazaar: Talking About That "Recession" Thing Is "Extremely Annoying" Now
    Well whadya know. Supermodels are breathtaking without make-up and hairspray. I feel... even worse about myself now. Thanks BAZAAR.
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    Image of MargaretMoony MargaretMoony
    08/19/09

    In reply to Harper's Bazaar: Talking About That "Recession" Thing Is "Extremely Annoying" Now
    Just like with every Harper's Bazaar, I have no idea what's going on. 70's flashback? 80's flashback? They allowed Lady Gaga to pick the clothing?
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    Image of Dodai Dodai
    08/19/09

    In reply to Harper's Bazaar: Talking About That "Recession" Thing Is "Extremely Annoying" Now
    Naomi Campbell skipping rope with MONKEYS made my eyes bulge out of my head when I saw it in the magazine.
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    Image of MargaretMoony MargaretMoony
    08/19/09

    @Dodai: My Art Theory Professor would flip over the primitivism.
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    Image of NellMood NellMood
    08/19/09

    @Dodai: I don't even get this. Are magazine editors and photographers seriously that unaware of the history of race and race relations? Do they exist in some sort of ahistorical vacuum where nothing is in context? How could someone possibly approve a photo like that?
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    Image of Dodai Dodai
    08/19/09

    @NellMood: well, as Jenna said, the photographer is the same one who put Grace Jones in a cage with the words "Do Not Feed The Animal." His book was called "Jungle Fever." So *he* knows what he's doing.
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    Image of NellMood NellMood
    08/19/09

    @Dodai: Oh, right. I'm still unclear how no one in the editorial process saw these photos as problematic.
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    Image of Rooo sez BISH PLZ Rooo sez BISH PLZ
    08/19/09

    @NellMood: Ignorance and denial can work wonders.
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    Image of esthergreenwood esthergreenwood
    04/16/09

    In reply to Stars Without Makeup!!! Is The New French Elle A "Step Back"?
    Except that they're WEARING MAKEUP. Just because it's not sparkly eye and lipstuffs doesn't mean it's not there. Ugh. Stabby.
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    Image of Nancy Sin Nancy Sin
    04/16/09

    @EstherGreenwood: Yeah, I have been driving myself insane wondering if the pretty lady in the above photo has the most naturally dark upper eyelashes, or, GASP, a gentle stripe of eyeliner. That could be my jealously speaking, though.
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    Image of Hana Maru Hana Maru
    04/16/09

    @del_ruby: That's what my eyes look like without makeup. When you have naturally thick, black lashes, it looks like eyeliner. Actually, it's the natural phenomenon eyeliner is supposed to mimic.
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    Image of electriklights electriklights
    04/16/09

    In reply to Stars Without Makeup!!! Is The New French Elle A "Step Back"?
    He continues:


    That's where I stopped reading.

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    Image of Rooo sez BISH PLZ Rooo sez BISH PLZ
    04/16/09

    In reply to Stars Without Makeup!!! Is The New French Elle A "Step Back"?
    "The fact remains that we are living in an incredibly visual culture" and that's because no one can read.
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    Image of linnyt is a walking cliché linnyt is a walking cliché
    04/16/09

    In reply to Stars Without Makeup!!! Is The New French Elle A "Step Back"?
    there's photography as an art there the photographer has a vision and uses tools to achieve it.

    there's also photography as snapshots that capture a moment in time. they are not the same thing and some people blur the lines and it is easy to do with both being very similar. even this issue seems to try to sound like candids or maybe some people are interpreting it that way. it is still photography as art achieving some vision, makeup or not.
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    Image of Rabenstolz Rabenstolz
    04/16/09

    In reply to Stars Without Makeup!!! Is The New French Elle A "Step Back"?
    The first thing I noticed is that this lady without makeup looks almost exactly like an older version of me without makeup. I didn't realize it was Monica Bellucci until I read it. So no, this did not make me feel worse than altered images.
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    Image of SarahMC SarahMC
    04/16/09

    @Rabenstolz: *blink*
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    Image of opalmarie opalmarie
    04/16/09

    In reply to Stars Without Makeup!!! Is The New French Elle A "Step Back"?
    The crux of this argument, and actually any argument about beauty in the media, is that all viewers will compare themselves to the images they see. Sure, maybe I'll look at these woman and think - Hey, I don't look as good without makeup. But after that, don't most of us just move on? Why is there a general assumption that not being beautiful, or thinking of ourselves as beautiful, makes women depressed or crazy? Most of us aren't gorgeous the way models and actresses are. Also, most of us aren't as good at singing as professional singers or as good at sports as professional actors. But most of us don't compare our abilities to professionals. So why does the media always act like the average woman is comparing her ass to Giselle's or her skin to a French actresses? I'm not, my friend's aren't. Normal people know that they're normal, and thus have flaws. I hate this idea that women are so weak and have so little confidence that physical perfection is an actual goal for most of us. It's really not.
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    Image of SarahMC SarahMC
    04/16/09

    @opalmarie: It does make some women depressed, because we are told our beauty is our most prized possession from the day we're born. We are not appreciated for our singing or soccer playing nearly as much as we are for our faces and bodies.
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    Image of opalmarie opalmarie
    04/16/09

    @SarahMC: This just simply isn't true for enough women that we should make that generalization.
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    Image of SarahMC SarahMC
    04/16/09

    @opalmarie: I am not generalizing the entire female population. But it IS a problem.
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