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    Image of shorty63136 shorty63136
    09/09/09

    In reply to R.I.P. Sylvia Schur
    I JUST polished off a can of Welch's Apple Cranberry juice no more than 15 seconds ago!

    Thanks, Sylvia!
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    09/09/09

    In reply to R.I.P. Sylvia Schur
    Whenever I tell people I've had a Clamato Bloody Mary (a Bloody Caesar), and liked it, people will ask what Clamato is. Normally the response to "tomato and clam juice...I know, shut up," after "ewww," is how anyone on earth ever came up with that combination. Now I can never ask her.
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    Image of NefariousNewt NefariousNewt
    09/09/09

    In reply to R.I.P. Sylvia Schur
    Clamato was a big success for Ms. Schur, but not everything she made was golden. A variant of Clamato called Clamidia, was not so successful.
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    Image of Lymed Lymed
    09/09/09

    @NefariousNewt a.k.a. General Awesomesauce: And don't forget the big Crab-Apple failure.
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    09/09/09

    In reply to R.I.P. Sylvia Schur
    Will the Canadian Jezebels be drinking Bloody Caesars tonight?
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    Image of Spaceman Bill Leah Spaceman Bill Leah
    09/09/09

    In reply to R.I.P. Sylvia Schur
    A Bloody Mary made with Clamato is called a Caesar or Bloody Caesar. According to the ever correct Wikipedia, it is also known as the Canadian National Cocktail. So, there's that.
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    09/09/09

    @Spaceman Bill Leah: I just found out a couple of years ago that Caesar's are a Canadian thing and our neighbours to the south have Bloody Mary's. It blew my mind. I hate them both, mind you. Alcohol and clams? no thank you.

    Cran-apple is amazing though.
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    Image of keldo keldo
    09/09/09

    In reply to R.I.P. Sylvia Schur
    Who amongst us has tried Clamato? I simply have not been able to do it.
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    09/09/09

    @keldo: As also stated below, it makes an excellent Bloody Mary. Also makes excellent vodka and oyster shooters.

    RIP, Ms. Schur.
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    09/09/09

    @SomeAuthorGirl: Nice! I will mix up a Clamato bloody Mary this evening and toast Sylvia Schur. She sounded like a powerhouse.
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    09/09/09

    @keldo: I love it. If it wasn't so high in sodium I would probably drink it every day.
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    09/09/09

    In reply to R.I.P. Sylvia Schur
    Clamato is divisive, but I fall firmly on the "pro" side as I can make a mighty fine bloody mary with the stuff. Thank you, Ms. Schur, for your important contribution to my cocktail repertoire. I'll try a chelada this weekend and toast in your honor.
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    09/09/09

    @tailfeather: I have been obsessed with Clamato since I was a child. My local supermarket stocked it and it seemed like the most glamorous thing ever in Ireland in the 80s.

    I'm going to have to try one of these clam-charged Bloody Marys you speak of and fulfil a lifetime obsession!
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    Image of bananastand bananastand
    09/09/09

    In reply to R.I.P. Sylvia Schur
    Dumb question....are there CLAMS in Clamato?
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    09/09/09

    @bananastand: I think it has a little bit of clam broth in it, but not clam pieces, however, I have to admit to never having tried it so I can't say for sure.
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    09/09/09

    @BabyJane: For some reason I thought Clamato was a brand of straight-up clam juice for cooking purposes, not a tomato juice cocktail with clam essence for drinking. Huh.
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    09/09/09

    @bananastand: oh, no. People drink it straight up. My great-grandmother LOVED it. A bunch of my family still enjoys it from time to time and it smells like death.
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    Image of BabyJane BabyJane
    09/09/09

    @bananastand: Because the base is made up of tomato juice, It's used a lot in Bloody Mary's, at least I've seen it done quite a bit here on the East Coast. (Maybe, it's a regional thing?) Straight clam juice ( a separate product) is also produced, but that's primarily used in place of fish stocks in soups and chowders.
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    09/09/09


    @BabyJane: This is straight up clam juice.
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    Image of andBegorrah andBegorrah
    09/09/09

    @BabyJane: And to make Caesars, which are disgusting. They're a Canadian thing, I believe.
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    09/09/09

    @andBegorrah: I'm with you on the disgusting part. I have an aversion to tomato juice on the whole, so the addition of clam broth to the mix doesn't exactly inspire me to try it.

    ETA - I'm glad to know that there is a proper name for a Bloody Mary made with Clamato, I shall use it from now on to impress my brunch mates.
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    Image of CurtCole CurtCole
    09/09/09

    In reply to R.I.P. Sylvia Schur
    "Our lives are not in the lap of the gods, but in the lap of our cooks."
    -Lin Yutang
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    Image of GoldenRatioφ (aka -girl11) GoldenRatioφ (aka -girl11)
    06/18/09

    In reply to Scientists (Sort Of) Explain Why We Overeat
    Well I'm a lucky duck that I've managed to stay a "healthy" size, and not have any eating disorders, because I am a truly frenetic, compulsive eater. I also was diagnosed with ADD two years ago. My doctor thinks I tend to overeat compulsively because there is so much damn static going on in my head, that it's a way to calm it down, and that it helps the dopamine neuron connections (um, not a scientist, sorry) function better when I'm eating. Then of course, there is the constant availability of junk, and the constant distractions going on around us to add to that.


    I actually finally started taking Adderall a couple months ago, and while I absolutely would NOT suggest anyone take ANY sort of pill to help with weight loss, by treating the ADD, I've managed to calm myself down with the medication to the point where I'm not constantly eating, because I'm not really doing things as impulsively/compulsively anymore, which includes reaching into the chip bag. Honestly, I don't think it's a "natural" way to control the incessant desire to chomp down on things, but it's made life much simpler not to constantly be dealing with thoughts about food. It's not about weight loss for me, or I wouldn't dare post this on here, it's about controlling the constant urge to eat to calm myself. Of course, I'd take the medication anyway for the ADD, and maybe it wouldn't have that affect in people who don't have ADD, but I almost think it is cruel to expect people who may be having those similar thoughts about food just to control them because of the stigma of taking something like Adderall. I probably eat about the same amount that I did before (because I don't need to diet or lose weight), but it is a godsend not to have to agonize over it anymore.

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    Image of Sonadelite Sonadelite
    06/18/09

    In reply to Scientists (Sort Of) Explain Why We Overeat
    I have to go to an endocrinologist for a host of disorders, and to no fault of their own, most of their clientele have to battle against weight gain. So much so that one time a nurse added an extra hundred pounds to my weight, because she was so used to writing those types of figures. My former endo. noticed there was an error on my chart, lol, and my self esteem was wrecked for weeks!


    What I'm trying to say is that I don't understand is why this study doesn't address insulin resistance, PCOS for women, etc., because clearly weight issues have a lot to do with endocrinology. [en.wikipedia.org] Essentially once your body hits a certain weight, if you are genetically prone, you'll have insulin resistance problems and then it will become nearly impossible to lose the weight. And in fact, because you can't process insulin correctly, you will just keep gaining weight. Or you will loose weight on a strict diet and exercise regimen, but not enough to not be insulin resistance-free. Moreover, hypothyroid patients typically experience insulin resistance after treatment even stabilizes their T3/T4. levels.


    And in terms of preventing insulin resistance, it just shows why eating patterns in childhood is so important, and honestly, why people should be aware of their thyroid health, since it can screw up your entire system. I feel like a broken record when I comment on the "health/weight" items on the blog, but seriously, it's important. I don't want anyone else to have the year I've had!

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    06/18/09

    @Sonadelite: While insulin resistance and PCOS are really serious and can wreak havoc on a person's weight, the point of this article was that we overeat, and tries to get to the point of why.


    It's not talking about weight loss or weight gain, which are definitely variable and are complicated by endocrine issues, absolutely. It's just talking about overeating, and why it might be easier for some than others to minimize it, and how it's gotten worse in the past 60 years.

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    06/18/09

    @formergr: Sonadelite is on to something that I rarely hear when talking about overeating in the general population. Hypo-thyroid is most common in women. It's still highly underdiagnosed, but in the last 30-40 years, has become a more and more common issue. It causes weight gain for a few reasons. One, which you almost never hear about is the because low thyroid causes a lack of efficient energy production, you become lethargic. However, this also triggers carbohydrate cravings to help create more energy. So even if you're full, your mind is telling you that you need more food (esp. carbs) to help bring that energy level up.
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    06/18/09

    In reply to Scientists (Sort Of) Explain Why We Overeat
    I wanted to echo a point that @kaiwhakamarie made - regarding the eating habits of the older generations.


    My grandma and grandpa eat very hearty, rich food. They eat a lot of meat, eggs, cheese, and flour. They eat fried breakfast stuff (sausage, bacon) and eggs every day, but here's the thing--they eat small portions and they're always on the go.


    Grandma makes the most beautiful baked dishes with melted cheese, and roasts and pan-seared meats and whatever, with sides of mashed potatoes and butter-drenched veggies--but instead of snarfing down gallons of it, she carefully places reasonable portions on an attractive plate. She freezes extra portions so she doesn't have to waste anything. She doesn't have huge giant ice cream bowls--she just has cute tiny little crystal dessert dishes.


    Grandma and Grandpa eat slowly, too, and while they do keep sweets and ice cream in the house, it's not something they eat every day.


    I think it's a different approach to eating. They have never really been in a hurry for any reason, either. They both work from dawn to dusk on the farm, but they never have any reason to snarf down something fast. They do everything promptly and efficiently in the fields and pastures, but when the day is done, they don't have to hurry. They can dawdle lovingly over a decent, reasonable portion of food, take pleasure in it, and savor it.


    For me, my commute in the morning can be an arduous ordeal. I wake up starving at 6AM, and I need something that will fuel me for an hour-long bus ride and a long walk and frustrating deadlines. Then it's busy, busy, busy all day--I could slow down and pay attention to my food, but I seriously have better things to do-- and by the time I finally manage to do it all in reverse and get home and think about dinner, it's like 7:00PM and I have to wash dishes or try to work on freelance stuff or mop or sweep and then I still have to get in a workout, somewhere, and make dinner, and take a shower, and do laundry, and I don't even have academic obligations or children! I can't imagine how insane my life would be if I added more to the mix.


    No, it's no excuse to eat like shit, but I think people today are overscheduled and crushed for time, and prepackaged unhealthy stuff can be really appealing. If you work full-time and you're trying to have some semblance of a meaningful personal life/interests outside of work, it can be very difficult to find time to prepare healthy meals, and the time to savor them.

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    Image of kaiwhakamarie kaiwhakamarie
    06/18/09

    @tscheese: Yes! THIS.


    Are you my cousin? ;)


    My Dad (who is a nutritionist) is always trying to get my Grandparents to eat 'healthier' and they are genuinely perplexed most of the time. My Grandma has cut corn syrup out of their diet and eats little salt because they don't care for it, but for the most part they see no problem with their dietary habits because they ahve always eaten the same foods. Whole milk, breaded and fried meats, cooking with animal fats, etc - none of those things seem 'unhealthy' to them and they eat those things every single day. Grandma is always trying to shove a cheese biscuit in my face, telling me that its healthy simply because it has cheese in it. Cheese = dairy = good.


    This is how they were raised. They are able to eat like this and still be healthy because they have always been and still are extremely active, they eat small portions and they don't sit around and snack on a bunch of junk between these meals. My Grandfather has a 4 pack of peanut butter crackers and a can pepsi every day at 10 a.m. and that is the only snack he has all day long (and its been that way as long as I've been alive). He's outside working from sunup to sundown. All this at 75!


    You should see the looks on their faces when they see my 14 year old brother scarf down an entire family-size bag of flamin' hot Cheetos, wash it down with two Dr. Peppers and spend the rest of the day working off the calories by playing his Xbox.

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    06/18/09

    @tscheese: Add to all of the above that we have completely confused our metabolisms. I've gained weight recently, in large part because I've slipped back into my old habits - which means I frequently don't eat anything during the day but a handful of tortilla chips & salsa until dinner.


    I'm pretty sure my body is in constant "feast or famine" mode - it is never sure when the next meal will come (stupid body, it's not like it's going to be long!) so it shuts down the metabolism to prepare for the famine.


    I learned early on that when I was on Atkins I "had" to eat breakfast every day, or I wouldn't lose weight.

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    06/18/09

    In reply to Scientists (Sort Of) Explain Why We Overeat
    I live alone. I don't cook much, if at all. Because I am lazy, yes, and because I don't like to cook for one.


    But once I start craving food, it's hard for me to stop wanting it. The more I tell myself not to, the more I want it. Fuck.


    Now if you'll excuse me, my SlimFast should be close to getting chilled now.

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    06/18/09

    In reply to Scientists (Sort Of) Explain Why We Overeat
    For me, eating was a hobby growing up. It wasn't limited to mealtime, it was an addition to other activities just because it could be. There was a lot of snacking, and not a lot of outdoor activity for me as a child. Now that I'm on the edge of 19, I'm just now finally starting to realize that if I'm hungry and there's still food on my plate it's alright for me to put it away for later or dispose of it. Another problem is that we cook way too much for the size of our family. We don't need six portions, we need three, but we always make extra. It's a bad environment.
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    06/18/09

    In reply to Scientists (Sort Of) Explain Why We Overeat
    I have been trying VERY HARD to stick to my diet the last week without overeating. And it's difficult!


    My body is getting used to eating less. Sometimes, I take out my journal when I have a craving after finishing a meal and write: You are not hungry. You are not hungry. You are not hungry.


    Sad, but it works for me.

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    06/18/09

    @NewsBunny: I hear you. I'm trying to stick to a diet for the first time in my life, and it's NOT easy. My diet consists of one thing: eat less.


    I might have to try the "you are not hungry" thing. I am an inveterate boredom eater.

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