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♥ dosido☮
05/21/09

In reply to House Of Mirth
Didn't work out so well for Lily Bart now, did it?
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TurtleWexlerKickedMe
05/21/09

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I can't believe I haven't been there yet.
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Pizza!Pizza!Pizza!
05/21/09

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If they can teach me to write like Wharton, I'll take every workshop offered.
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Joy_Rebar
05/21/09

@HeatherNumber1: Amen, sister.
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Liz11685
05/21/09

In reply to House Of Mirth
The Estate was just featured on an episode of Ghost Hunters. Hopefully that can bring in some interest from people who maybe aren't Wharton fans. It really is a spectacularly beautiful estate.
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keldo
05/21/09

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Yes, it does seem like a money pit but I'm glad it's keeping on. It's a beautiful place.
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burningdinner
05/21/09

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Oh I will fix that debt! I am going to go visit so soon (I AM SO EXCITED) and I will buy every. single. thing. in the gift shop!

I could never quit Edith Wharton.
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Joy_Rebar
05/21/09

@burningdinner: I was there a few years ago. Her grounds and gardens are so lovely. If philanthropy were an option in my current circumstances, I would give them all my dough.
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andBegorrah
05/21/09

In reply to House Of Mirth
Perhaps they should look into French Estate Ways and Their Meaning.
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Spaceman Bill Leah
05/21/09

In reply to House Of Mirth
All of Western Mass's tourism interests should just get together and get up the funds for a big sign, visible from space, that says, "Please come spend you money here. We don't have funny accents."
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andBegorrah
05/21/09

@Spaceman Bill Leah: Except for the Emily Dickenson House - they're hiding quietly, hoping you'll leave them alone.
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Liz11685
05/21/09

@Spaceman Bill Leah: Well, they shouldn't lie to people. Western Mass totally has funny accents! :) (I'm from Boston...)
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brendastarlet is on it
05/21/09

@Spaceman Bill Leah: my dad was from western Mass and my girlfriends growing up thought he was English. It is not a Boston accent but it is an accent.
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Spaceman Bill Leah
05/21/09

@brendastarlet is on it: English? That's one I have never heard before.
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bluebears
05/21/09

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Why does the site even have a multi-million dollar debt?
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Mary McCarthyite
05/21/09

@bluebears: I think they established the Wharton home and gardens hoping tourists and Wharton fans to flock there, but it just ended up being a money pit.
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Mary McCarthyite
05/21/09

@bluebears: There was a very informative piece in the New Yorker about it last year. I'll try to find it...
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brendastarlet is on it
05/21/09

@bluebears: The Mount is a beautiful house, but it fell into disrepair. It had been used as a girls' school, and it needed a ton of restoration. Only a few rooms were open and the decor was very sparse, although it has a nice gift shop and garden. They had to charge pretty high prices to see it, and the Berkshires are loaded with less pricey things to do.
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bluebears
05/21/09

@Mary McCarthyite: @brendastarlet is on it: thats intersting I'd like to visit.
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A Small Turnip
05/21/09

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I would like to take this opportunity to declare that when my superhero powers finally come in and I can take on a new and nifty moniker, I have decided that you may all call me The Countess Olenska.

I will specialise in magical eyelash fluttering and scandalising the Matriarchs That Be, everywhere.

Thank you.
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Chocolate Sex Bunny
01/26/09

In reply to Richer, Poorer: Divorce Makes Men More Moneyed
It's true. Women get the short end of the stick in all things related to children and divorce and are much more likely to be impoverished as a result of both.

Please ladies, read "The Feminine Mistake" by Leslie Bennets and "The Price of Motherhood" by Ann Crittenden.

It really opens your eyes...I never looked at marriage and motherhood the same way again after reading these books.

Although my mind was made up already that I definitely wouldn't be participating in either. Especially motherhood.

I'll also admit, these books and a riveting Oprah show on SAHM's who ended up in the poor house after a divorce, have really made me think twice about this notion that a woman who depends on a man for everything can still call herself a "feminist".

*prepares for an onslaught*
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nellicat
01/26/09

In reply to Richer, Poorer: Divorce Makes Men More Moneyed
As a divorced Mom of 2, I had to declare bankruptcy because I could neither afford nor sell the family home, which I was "awarded" in the divorce.

Once I am clear of that debt, I will EVENTUALLY be better off financially, because I don't have to support my spendthrigt ex. I pay child support to him, and we share 50/50 custody.
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gerbilsoutofexile...is cheap and easy
01/26/09

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Aw, if my husband leaves, I'm taking him for everything freaking thing he has. After watching my friend struggle to pay her bills and take care of her son while her deadbeat ex flies to Vegas and has fun, I don't care if it is "unfeminist" or not. I'm taking it.
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Brigit
01/26/09

@gerbilsoutofexile.notsobad!: DO SO.

When my 'rents divorced, my mom got me, my sis, and the car. My dad got everything else. And bitched about child support. He lived in our 3 bedroom house while we lived in one bedroom at grandma's house.
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GoldenRatioφ (aka -girl11)
01/26/09

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I've used stuff like this to explain to goldenboy why I'd consider getting an abortion if I accidentally got knocked up right now. Having kids seems to always be more of a financial and career burden for women- in my case it might entail dropping out of school. But he could support us on his grad student stipend! Of course! The mere fact that child support exists is evidence to him that I have an irrational belief that the burden falls on the woman. And this article isn't even talking exclusively about accidental pregnancies!
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devilchyld22
01/26/09

In reply to Richer, Poorer: Divorce Makes Men More Moneyed
Luckily, I didn't marry my ex. Probably should have, might have made some dough...but then of course that would mean he'd have to have had a job.

When we split I gave him everything (we lived the life of a married couple) and I took the baby. He pays no child support and lives the life of a gypsy. I on the other hand struggle to pay the bills, eat ramen as much as possible and barely make it by. But, I have the baby. Which means, I win.
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