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    Image of LBB LBB
    12/04/09

    In reply to About Those Best of the Decade Lists...
    Across the Universe
    Lost in Translation
    Marie Antoinette
    Lovely and Amazing
    Friends With Money
    Love & Sex
    The Holiday
    Bridget Jones's Diary
    Bride and Prejudice
    Bend it Like Beckham

    Of course, most of those movies would never make it onto any official best-of lists because they're comedies, but...
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    12/04/09

    In reply to About Those Best of the Decade Lists...
    TOP TEN:
    (in no particular order)
    American Psycho - Mary Harron
    Bridget Jones' Diary - Sharon Maguire
    Julie & Julia - Nora Ephron
    Lost in Translation... AND
    Marie Antoinette - Sofia Coppola
    The Ballad of Jack and Rose - Rebecca Miller
    Something's Gotta Give - Nancy Meyers
    Wendy and Lucy - Kelly Reichardt
    Bend it Like Beckham - Gurinder Chadha
    and my fave:
    WAITRESS by Adrienne Shelly

    Special mention to Monster, the one with Charlize Theron, which was apparently excellent, but I didn't see it, so I can't rank it.
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    12/04/09

    In reply to About Those Best of the Decade Lists...
    The Hurt Locker is fantastic. I loved it.
    And I love Bill Murray, madly. So I have no idea what to say when people talk about Sofia Coppola being such a great director in Lost In Translation. I think that film relies a lot -a LOT- on Bill Murray's performance and pathos. I don't think there was much directing there. But that's just my opinion, though.
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    12/04/09

    @Casquivana: I love Murray as well but I think that movie is almost entirely about the pacing, which Coppola totally nailed. Especially since you don't see movies with that languid pacing coming out of Hollywood all too regularly anymore.

    I wanted to like The Hurt Locker a lot more than I actually did. Part of the problem is just doesn't strike me as very rewatchable and I don't know that there's really that much to get out of it.
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    12/04/09

    @Casquivana: I always say that Lost in Translation is about silences and how we the viewers make those silences into whataver we want.

    I sound pretentious, but I don't mean it. Also Bill Murray singing "More than this" is better than ice cream and chocolate.
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    12/04/09

    @MyNameIsChris: I actually think Coppola is really good at creating a very subtle air of ennui that pervades throughout her films, and gives them a very melancholic quality and pace. Which is why I still like her movies, even though I really don't think she is that gifted with actors. The fact that apparently Murray improvised many of his scenes speaks volumes, I think.
    I agree with you about The Hurt Locker. I actually liked it a lot, but it is true that is not rewatchable. I think part of the problem is that the plot seems to lead you nowhere.
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    12/04/09

    @Casquivana: Yeah. What you said with the fancy words.
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    12/04/09

    @Ailatan: You don't sound pretentious.

    That was the last movie I enjoyed with Bill Murray (Team Chevy!) and mostly for the reason you mention.

    Those silences are like invitations to fill in the blanks.

    "The amount of noise which anyone can bear undisturbed stands in inverse proportion to his mental capacity." - Arthur Schopenhauer
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    12/04/09

    @winner: what about Broken Flowers? It's Bill Murray doing his best Bill Murray.

    Thank you, my darling!

    P.S: Congratulations on your bestie JPEG, it's very funny!
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    12/04/09

    @Ailatan: Oh, no. I agree. And I know it sounds like the opposite, but I actually loved that movie, and not just because of Murray (who is indeed better than ice cream, chocolate and even cake) but because of the general sense of isolation and fear disguised as boredom and in the characters. I loved that. I just think Coppola is overrated. She's evidently a good filmmaker, I just don't think she knows how to deal with her actors.
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    12/04/09

    @Ailatan: Ha! I didn't even know I got a bestie for that nonsense!
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    12/04/09

    In reply to About Those Best of the Decade Lists...
    Yeah, this is sad as usual... it did make me just notice that Jane Campion really didn't do much this decade.
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    12/04/09

    @MyNameIsChris: I haven't seen Bright Star yet, but it seems to be very good.
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    12/04/09

    @Ailatan: Seen it... in my opinion it's solid but nothing all so memorable or amazing. Great cinematography, wardrobe and pacing though... as you would expect from her.
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    12/04/09

    @Ailatan: Bright Star was good but SAD.
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    12/04/09

    In reply to About Those Best of the Decade Lists...
    Um. That list blows.
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    12/04/09

    @winner: Ha! Good point... there's really only one film on there that I would probably certainly take on my top ten of the decade.
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    12/04/09

    @MyNameIsChris: Which one is that?

    Honestly, none of the movies in my top ten have female directors.

    Have you seen Koreeda's Nobody Knows by chance?
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    12/04/09

    @winner: Nope, but since we have an ongoing film dialogue happening today I might rent it on the way home or at least I'll add it to netflix.

    Uhh... yeah, there's no way a female directed film would be in my top ten from this decade. I don't even have a top ten and I'm sure of that. The only film on that list that would probably end up on a top ten for me is Fog Of War. But I'm a huge Errol Morris fan AND a history nerd... plus I just think it's impeccably crafted.
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    12/04/09

    @MyNameIsChris: Well, Nobody Knows is beautiful. That's all I will say. It is not a perfect movie but it is beautiful and quiet. Highly recommend.

    I just made my top ten in no particular order:

    The Professional
    The Road
    Nobody Knows
    Dancer in the Dark
    25th Hour
    Control
    The Color of Paradise
    City of God
    All That Jazz
    Underground (Kusturica)

    (I know All That Jazz is not from the 90s but I love it and add it to all of my top 10 lists).
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    12/04/09

    @winner: On a related note... I originally saw City Of God at a very late showing shortly after it opened. I was with a friend and the theatre was completely empty until shortly before it began, at which point Kirsten Dunst and a friend walked in and sat literally directly to my right. Then she proceeded to talk back to the screen and act virtually like a twelve year old. Whenever I've seen it since (it IS a fucking fantastic film), I can still hear her saying to herself, "OOOH I HATE THAT BENNY!"
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    12/04/09

    @MyNameIsChris: That is so annoying!!! I sat next to Yoko Ono and Sean Lennon during the Science of Sleep. I hated that movie...
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    12/04/09

    @winner: What was Yoko's reaction to that movie? I feel like sitting next to Yoko Ono would make any film a million times weirder. (I didn't really like it either.)
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    12/04/09

    @MalinaMango: You know, I have no idea what was going through her head. She nodded a lot but didn't ever really smile or laugh or anything. Maybe I should try watching it again - I was pretty distracted, I guess.
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    12/04/09

    In reply to National Board Of Review Didn't Like Precious As Much As Barbara Bush Did
    I read the Barbara Bush piece yesterday, and all I could think about were her horrible comments after Hurricane Katrina and how the people in the Astrodome were "underprivileged anyway, so this is working very well for them." Is that unfair on my part?
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    12/04/09

    @sarah.of.a.lesser.god (aka Mrs. BrutallyHonestHobbit): Well, it's sort of consistent for her if she liked the movie for the same reasons Dana Stevens did not: [www.slate.com]
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    12/04/09

    @Irin: EXACTLY.
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    12/04/09

    @Irin: And thanks for that link, it's terrific.
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    12/04/09

    In reply to National Board Of Review Didn't Like Precious As Much As Barbara Bush Did
    I've talked to a good number of people who thought Precious was sloppy and amateurishly made, with the performances being its only saving grace.

    I think we need to separate artistic merit from social significance, but I will reserve judgment until I actually see the film myself.
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    12/04/09

    @Understater: Well said. Powerful message alone does not a great film make - even if there are strong performances. I found a lot of the direction, writing, and charactarization to be hamfisted and/or sloppy, and there are many who agree.
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    12/04/09

    @Ofmyself: Especially the writing and characterization. I mean, I could barely understand what Lenny Kravitz's character was doing showing up at the school at the end. "Hi, I'm the nurse that helped deliver your baby, now we're bf4e with no explanation whatsoever"?
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    12/04/09

    @Understater: Which begs the question: can an entire film be redeemed simply on the strength of its performances? I kind of felt the same way about Syriana -- without the performances, especially Alexander Siddig's, it would have been more of a mess, yet I ended up admiring the film only because of the actors.
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    12/04/09

    @Understater: I'm actually with you... I think "Precious" has tons of flaws and I thought "Dreamgirls" was fucking awful. However, it's not like NBR picked ten amazing perfect films. They LOVE "Up In The Air" which (while more slickly shot and put together) is ultimately just as hamfisted and forced as "Precious."
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    12/04/09

    @MyNameIsChris: NOOOOO, don't say that! I have such high expectations for Up in the Air :(
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    12/04/09

    @Understater: Eek... nevermind... it's BRILLIANT!!!!

    (It's entertaining... but it's simply not capital-G Great like the marketing wants you to believe. Ultimately there's just depth missing. I feel like Jason Reitman is going to pan out to be the Ron Howard of the big budget psuedo indie set...)
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    12/04/09

    In reply to National Board Of Review Didn't Like Precious As Much As Barbara Bush Did
    I saw Precious last night and I cried out of frustration because there were audible "ewwwws" when the sexual assaults began and there was audible laughing whenever Precious would eat because, "ewww, she's fat." I couldn't take it, I couldn't fucking take it. I said very loudly to my sister, "It's so gross to see a fat woman eat. HOW dare she put food into her stomach." Then I gave them the evil eye, and then I cried. and cried. and cried.
    For fucks sake, is there any hope? Honestly, is there any hope when this is how a story of this magnitude is received? It broke my heart a little and I'm still not over it today.
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    12/04/09

    @Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny.: I'm so sorry you had such a bad experience! Don't lose hope. For every audible snicker and joke there was a silent person in the theater actually experiencing the film as it was meant to be.
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    12/04/09

    @Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny.: I went on opening day. The theater was packed. In front of me where 5 teenage girls. They spoke and laughed throughout the whole movie. I tried to cut them some slack. Maybe they were uncomfortable and didn't know how to deal. That is what I kept telling myself. I guess compassion really is a learned behavior.

    Despite the interruptions, the movie got through to me and it sounds like to you. I am sorry you had bad time
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    12/04/09

    @Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny.: Did they make comments about the baby choking on her breast the first time she fed him in the hospital? And laugh when she almost got hit in the head with the frying pan? And make lewd comments at the "Precious, come to mommy" part? That was my experience.

    I didn't cry because of the movie but almost cried because of the audience.
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    @curiousgeorgiana: Thank you. I really need to believe that. It just hurts me to think of all the people that are living lives like Precious and I'm in a fucking theater listening to people LAUGH at them.
    I think there might be so transference at play, because the movie is a powerful one, it's possible I was directing my anger at something tangible.
    I'm glad I saw it though because as Linda Loman says, "Attention must be paid."
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    @La muerte en bicicleta: I cut them slack at first too, because I understand that laughter is a natural release of tension.
    It was really only when they expressed apathy or actual disdain towards the character that I got really mad.
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    12/04/09

    @La muerte en bicicleta: There's probably some merit to this argument too. Younger viewers were likely uncomfortable. Not that that justifies laughter or snide comments-- the movie is supposed to make you uncomfortable, but youth is a bit of an excuse.
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    12/04/09

    @jessacecilia: Totally. Completely and totally. And I did cry because of the audience.
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    12/04/09

    @Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny.: When I saw Gran Torino in a suburban theater, I was disturbed by how many people (white and black, apparently) laughed hysterically at Clint Eastwood's character's racism. And in Revolutionary Road (this time in Manhattan), laughs at the most painful fights between the couple. So yes, maybe discomfort?
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    12/04/09

    @curiousgeorgiana: It is a total excuse. I just told myself this so I wouldn't cause a scene.
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    12/04/09

    @Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny.: What did you think about the movie? And do you think your environment played a big part in your enjoyment of the movie itself?
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    @jessacecilia: It made me angry. Angry that this shit happens. Angry that people like Precious are invisible. Angry that I'm just some chic in a theater doing absolutely nothing to change anything. Angry that all it takes sometimes is a kind word, a scarf, a hug, a wave hello and some people never even get that.
    My environment played into that completely as I only got more angry at the fact that these privileged assholes, in a warm theater with $100 boots and popcorn would dare to laugh at the plight of this woman.
    Quite frankly, it made me want to hurt them, to punish them. And then it made me want to volunteer more and be kinder.
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    12/04/09

    @Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny.: We should be friends. And we should go to movies together.

    Well, maybe not the latter - I can see the headlines now. "Two arrested in theatre brawl. Attacks happen when giggles occur at puppy's misfortune."
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    @jessacecilia: hearted. Just think of all the support we would get for whooping up on insensitive assholes.
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    12/04/09

    @Irin: @Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny.: I had this experience at Antichrist, a film which I loved and found profoundly tragic in its depiction of emotional pain. It depends how in touch with one's feelings one is - people laugh when they are uncomfortable; it just means they basically haven't developed the emotional 'muscles' to deal with what is happening on screen - remember being a kid and giggling whenever people kissed, or something sexy came on TV when you were watching with your parents? Although extremely annoying at the time, I always think they'll grow out of it someday, hopefully.
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    @Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny.: You're just more emotionally evolved, is all.
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    @Diziet_Sma: I really want to believe this, still it's a shame that it ruins it for other people.
    I am a deeply empathetic person (I cry during commercials) and I usually have a difficult time in theaters to begin with because I get angry that so many people put so much into it and they aren't being respected.
    It's even worse if I am watching live theater. I have been known to flip out on people who want get up to leave before curtain call.
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    12/05/09

    @Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny.: If it makes you feel any better, when I was in the movie, a woman next to me grabbed my leg accidentally in fear when Monique held the baby. Like in a horror movie when you know something bad is about to happen, something real bad.
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    12/04/09

    In reply to National Board Of Review Didn't Like Precious As Much As Barbara Bush Did
    Oh BULL. SHIT. The Road isn't on that list either.

    National Board of Review? Dead to me.
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    12/04/09

    @winner: I dunno, it looks to me like they took the only Cormac McCarthy book I ever liked and turned it into a BLOCKBUSTER TO THE EXTREME MAX OMG BANGBANGSPLOSION!
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    @PilgrimSoul: It's totally not that. At. All. The first trailers out weren't vetted by the director. The new clips from it are beyond amazing.
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    12/04/09

    @winner: Bullshit.
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    @PilgrimSoul: Have you seen it? It is so not a BLOCKBUSTER TO THE EXTREME MAX OMG BANGBANGSPLOSION! It is one of the quietest, most graceful movies I've ever seen. In the vein of Mallick's The Thin Red Line.

    If it's any consolation, it's only in the arty theaters at this point.
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    12/04/09

    @winner: They better do a wider release. I hate the theater it's showing at right now in DC ( it has been overrun with obnoxious teenagers). Please come to my mostly quiet theater soon!!
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    @curiousgeorgiana: The choice to release it during the holidays was strange, though I guess it was meant to be released earlier and needed final edits. The theater I saw it in last night was packed.

    It may just replace The Professional as my all-time favorite movie.
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    12/04/09

    @winner:
    It was supposed to be released a year ago, then delay, delay, delay.

    It makes me so happy to hear that you liked it so much! Oscar nod for Viggo perhaps?
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    @winner: I'm a huge fan of Hillcoat's The Proposition so when he was brought on to direct it immediately became one of my most anticipated films.

    I also love that you compared it to The Thin Red Line, which is probably in my top 10-20 all-time. I can't wait to see it.
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    12/04/09

    @winner: As much as I always want to love The Thin Red Line, the only thing terribly graceful about it are Mallick's camera moves and the cinematography in general...
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    @MyNameIsChris: Right - that's what I mean mostly. And I suppose that says more about John Toll than Malick. Have you seen The New World? I would have drawn that comparison but the contrast of beauty and hope against a backdrop of violence and hopelessness was more in line with Thin Red Line.

    Though I suppose Emmanuel Lubezki's cinematography in The New Worldwas far more transcendental.
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    12/04/09

    @ozu: The Road is by the same man who did The Proposition? Ok, that makes me want to see it more. The Proposition was so brutal but so good.
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    @ozu: I know - I loved The Proposition and imagined Hillcoat directing every Cormac McCarthy book I've read even before I heard he was after McCarthy for rights to The Road. I would have been happy with Malick, too, I think but Hillcoat owns the frontier. Can you imagine how different No Country for Old Men would have been if he'd directed it?

    I also kind of wish Hillcoat was direction The Killer Inside Me instead of Winterbottom but that's a whole 'nother issue.
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    12/04/09

    @winner: "The New World" doesn't really work for me either, but again, I enjoy looking at it. Toll has done good work, but nothing (in my opinion) that approaches "The Thin Red Line." So I think a good chunk of the credit has to go to Malick for knowing and getting what he wanted. Lubezki, on the other hand, is a hero of mine for all his work with Cuarón.

    Then again, my hopes for New World were tempered by my relative disappointment in the return of Malick and having already discovered he's human. I had read Thin Red Line and was a fan of the book, and a fan of Malick, and pretty let down by the end result.
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    @curiousgeorgiana: Oh my god, dude. Viggo killed but that boy... he blew my mind. Kodi Smit-McPhee will take best supporting for sure. I wish you'd seen it so I had some way to gauge whether or not I'm overreacting!
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    @PilgrimSoul: Not at all. Considering the few people I know who have seen the movie claim "it made them hurt"
    in an emotional fashion (meant as a compliment), it's hardly a blockbuster. Released in only what, 111 theaters? Hardly blockbuster numbers.

    I'm seeing it Saturday.
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    @MyNameIsChris: Ah - I will forgive a lot for a beautifully shot movie. The New World made me feel like I was on drugs.

    And I didn't read Thin Red Line but I have heard similar complaints from people who have.

    If you plan on seeing The Road, pm me after you've seen it. I'm curious to know what you think about it.
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    @beatrice2000: Yeah, John Hillcoat directed The Proposition and Guy Pearce even shows up in The Road.
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    @winner: Ha! Yeah... I actually really agree with you. I will deal with a lot of crap if it's beautifully shot and edited. I'm a sucker for visuals. Granted, if somebody combines great visuals, editing AND story/performances I'm thrilled. Right now usually it's Cuarón or Paul Thomas Anderson I look forward to.

    Haven't seen The Road yet. I have a screener of it but I'm holding off to see it in a theatre.
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    @Rose.Selavy.Needs.A.Drink: I don't cry in movies. At the end of this one, I was snot-nosed and red-eyed; my throat hurt and my stomach turned.

    It felt like I was going through a breakup.
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    @winner: I will see it next weekend and we can discuss!
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    In reply to National Board Of Review Didn't Like Precious As Much As Barbara Bush Did
    Thinking Dreamgirls sucked does not make you a racist, it just indicates that you have good taste.
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    12/04/09

    @CurtCole:I'm black and I agree. The music was brilliant but that's all there is to it for me personally. They criminally underused Anika Noni Rose's Lorell and many other important characters from the play to make it a Beyonce vanity project. The overacting by her and Jamie Foxx make it nearly unwatchable. Jennifer Hudson's singing was amazing but her acting was way under par.
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    @weirdgasm: That's exactly how I felt. I love her, but her Oscar was undeserved. I would have loved it if she'd won best song that year though.
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    @CurtCole: It just goes to show that awards don't equate to superiority. I probably would've flat out died if Beyonce won that Golden Globe. Beyonce and the words "Best Actress" are an obvious oxymoron.
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    In reply to National Board Of Review Didn't Like Precious As Much As Barbara Bush Did
    Is Roger joking regarding Dreamgirls? A lot of people thought it wasn't Best Pic material.

    Also while the stars were black nobody else about-the-line was. So even if the movie won best screenplay, director or pic none of the people accepting would have been black so not sure what Roger's talking about.
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    @nyc-caribbean-ragazza:

    that should be "above" the line.
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    12/04/09

    @nyc-caribbean-ragazza: The Dreamgirls comparison was a definite misstep. That movie failed to make the list because it was bad.
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    In reply to National Board Of Review Didn't Like Precious As Much As Barbara Bush Did
    I just think it's weird that 500 Days Of Summer is up there and not Precious, as Precious had better reviews overall.
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    12/04/09

    @hortense: ARE YOU KIDDING ME? I watched 500 Days of Summer on a plane, and basically it's emo-dude Livejournal as a screenplay.
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    @PilgrimSoul: I saw 500 Days of Summer and I really enjoyed it. Haven't seen Precious yet though.
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    @PilgrimSoul: That's what I'm saying! How is that on there and not Precious?
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    @hortense: Agreed.
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    12/04/09

    In reply to After Precious: Does Hollywood Have A Place For Gabby Sidibe?
    Slightly off topic, but whenever I hear Oscar talk about Gabby I hear her telling Ellen about being asked for the first 30 seconds of her Oscar acceptance speech: "Give me the first 30 seconds of YOUR Oscar acceptance speech!" @5:20
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    @mariamariamaria: I love her booty dance! God! I love this woman!!!
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    @mariamariamaria: I LOVE THAT DANCE!!!! You go, girl!
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    In reply to After Precious: Does Hollywood Have A Place For Gabby Sidibe?
    My bigger fear was that someone would try to capitalize on her fame and success by giving her a starvation diet makeover. I know she has loads of body confidence, but a young woman her age in her profession is still subject to all kinds of emotional and career pressure regarding weight, and there's a lot of people running around famedom promoting unhealthy weight loss plans.
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    12/03/09

    In reply to After Precious: Does Hollywood Have A Place For Gabby Sidibe?
    fucking, talk show host? like the only other sometimes-fat black woman you can think of? that is insulting.

    personally i think gabby is gonna need to start producing her own work if she wants to act, which would be a boon to the world.
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