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barzzini
12/12/08

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Im a True Blood fan all the way but i don't think Anna Paquin is the best actor on the show. Or a great actor in general.Other cast members should have been recognised. Stephen Moyer for instance.
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ceejeemcbeegee is not here
12/11/08

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BEST ACTOR (DRAMA)

• Leonardo DiCaprio, Revolutionary Road - Victim of boredom

• Frank Langella, Frost/Nixon - Victim of pride

• Sean Penn, Milk - Victim of hate

• Brad Pitt, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button - Victim of time

• Mickey Rourke, The Wrestler - Victim of others/self

SUPPORTING ACTOR

• Tom Cruise, Tropic Thunder - Victim of greed

• Robert Downey Jr., Tropic Thunder - Victim of vanity

• Philip Seymour Hoffman, Doubt - victim of suspicion

• Heath Ledger, The Dark Knight - Victim of insanity

• Ralph Fiennes, The Duchess - Victim of deceit

In other words, you kinda need your main character to be a victim in order for there to be a dramatic movie, ya know?
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queenieinmanhattan
12/11/08

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Anna Paquin = Damsel in distress, no?
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brendastarlet is on it
12/11/08

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Last Chance Harvey doesn't open here until Jan. 23, which will be after the Golden Globes telecast, although they'll probably open it in a few coastal theaters so it qualifies for Oscar noms.

It's supposed to be very good, the story of a rumpled retired American businessman who goes to London and finds joy with an Englishwoman. A takeoff on 84 Charing Cross Road, except in reverse and they meet instead of exchanging letters. The idea of Emma and Dustin in a movie together makes me smile.
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Mkp-hearts-NYC
12/11/08

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I can't take Jon Hamm and Hugh Laurie up against eachother for the best actor award! (I could, however, take them up against /me/ under different circumstances......)
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Eeva
12/11/08

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I'm not sure Jolie's character in Changeling fits so neatly into the victim category. She fights for months against the entire LAPD and is ultimately successful in bringing many of them down, and although she is thrown into a psychiatric ward (victim!), she's unbroken by the horrific treatment therein (ultimately, not victim!).
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moussou
12/11/08

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Wait a sec -- where's the nom for Baby Mama?!
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brendastarlet is on it
12/11/08

@cherita: no nom for Baby Mama or for SATC.
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not.a.clever.name
12/11/08

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I don't have a problem with victims in movies like Changeling, Revolutionary Road or Mad Men, because I think it's important that we see the way society victimized women in the past and that we aren't that far from it today.

And I would argue that Leo's character is MUUUUUUCH more of a victim and a doormat that Kate's. A case could be made for hooker and shrew, too.
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Rooo sez BISH PLZ
12/11/08

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"Doubt" is supposed to be brilliant - I saw both trailer and play - but nominations pre-release? Tipping the hand, perhaps? Overkill?

Oh, and "badass" category? Yes, plz.
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tstrizz
12/11/08

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I am so glad January Jones got a nod for this--i wasn't sure about her in the first season but I found her absolutely breathtaking (performance wise) in the second season. My mother, who came of age in the 60s, says she finds watching Jones almost unbearably painful.
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belle TL
12/11/08

@tstrizz: Her whole storyline in "A Night to Remember" is utterly heartbreaking.

When she ends up at the end, dishevelled, drunk, and convinced her husband is having an affair but can't prove it, the frustration and helplessness she exudes from her body is palpable. So. Good.
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tankearae
12/11/08

@tstrizz: Agreed. Though having looked at the first season again, she just got better and better as time went on (and conflict built). The moment with Glen in the car was tough to get through. Just so sad. (Or Nordic, whatever you prefer)
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brendastarlet is on it
12/11/08

@tankearae: there's a big disagreement among Mad Men fans over whether she can actually act. I come down on the side that says she can, so I'm glad she got a nomination, too.
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Miss Smith Drank Your Vodka
12/11/08

@tstrizz: I love the scene where she calmly walks outside, picks up a shotgun, and starts shooting at the neighbor's birds, all with a smoking cigarette perched so neatly between her perfectly-applied-lipstick-sporting lips.

Shoot, what episode was that ...
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ediebeale
12/11/08

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I know the play of Doubt like the back of my hand, and Amy Adams' and Viola Davis' characters are too complicated to be lumped into any of those categories.
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solidbrassfasteners
12/11/08

@ediebeale: Exactly. As is Meryl Streep's character - she's definitely not a shrew. She's a woman who becomes consumed with her own suspicions. I'm so psyched to see this as a movie (having fallen totally in love with the play).
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brendastarlet is on it
12/11/08

@solidbrassfasteners: agreed. The play was enthralling -- I saw it after the change of cast, when Eileen Atkins took on the role of Sister Aloysius. Helen Mirren and Tyler Hackford sat in the row ahead of me.
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Delia_Green
12/11/08

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I haven't seen Changeling, but based on everything I've read about it, isn't the entire film about the fact that women were victimized and mistreated and ignored and considered mentally unstable for standing up for themselves during that time period? So, uh, "no duh" she's playing a victim? I agree with the general concept of this story, but that seems like a pretty bad example to me. As far as Changeling goes, I think it speaks more to Angelina's, and pretty females' in general, overrated acting abilities. But again, I haven't seen the film.
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Miss Smith Drank Your Vodka
12/11/08

@Delia_Green: It's true - no one believed her because they thought she was a weak, hysterical woman incapable of, oh I dont know, recognizing her own son.

But she fought back and refused to accept, which earned her a spot in an institution.

To me it's not a typical victim role.
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vamusical
12/11/08

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I started reading Revolutionary Road and didn't finish because it was so depressing. Kate Winslet's character is TOTALLY a victim in that she is trapped in a depressing suburban life.
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BlondeGoddess
12/11/08

@vamusical: I did finish the book and saw the film last week -- depressing yes, but beautiful. And I don't think Kate's character is any more a victim than Leo's. They are both victims of suburban life, their expectations and the American dream.
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brendastarlet is on it
12/11/08

@BlondeGoddess: I read the book, which is excellent, and hear the film is very well done (and directed by Sam Menzies, too.) I don't think Kate's character is a victim in the sense of preyed-upon. She's trapped by circumstances, yes.
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Miss Smith Drank Your Vodka
12/11/08

@vamusical: I have the hardest time watching movies about trapped suburban lives. Well, a lot of movies are like that technically, but the really depressing ones I just cannot do. Not if I want to get out of bed the next morning. ugh.
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pantsless economist...access RESTORED
12/11/08

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OOOH IDEA. Make up an interactive Bingo-style game called Hooker, Victim or Doormat? and put in a name and you have to buzz in or comment in or whatever. For example: square A4: Julia Roberts, Pretty Woman. Answer: Hooker.

Kind of like Food, Sex or Car on SNL.
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BrutallyHonestBabes (aka Mrs. Sarah.of.a.Lesser.Hobbit)
12/11/08

@pantsless economist: Make is a twister-type game and I'm in.
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Miss Smith Drank Your Vodka
12/11/08

@BrutallyHonestBabes: A drink twister-type game and I'm in too.

Ahh, hell who am I kidding - I'm in anyway!
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homoviper
12/11/08

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Why was Hawkins's character too likable? I think too many people overstate the character's likableness. IMO hers was the greatest character in the lot, and she gave the best performance. I hope she wins, and I hope the film nabs best comedy.
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emilyanne
12/11/08

@eXXX: you know the contrast between how that film was seen in the UK and US is astonishing. I haven't seen it but in Britain it was widely condemned as Leigh's worst film and while people agreed Hawkins gave a good performance the whole film was seen as patronising, ill thought out and poorly plotted guff. Which is why I have yet to see it although clearly I should open my mind.
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homoviper
12/11/08

@emilyanne: Wow I had no idea, and I couldn't disagree with the negative assessment of the film more.
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emilyanne
12/11/08

@eXXX: yeah it's weird but it means that I now want to see it as I usually like Leigh's films so I was surprised by the hugely negative reviews.
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