My father treated his children much the same way Cosby does in this scene: displaying unconcealed, sardonic contempt at our "stupidity," using humor as a bludgeon to prove how much smarter he was than his children, and occasionally threatening us with bodily harm. I can testify that this method actually does not produce successful, well-adjusted offspring. Instead, it smothers burgeoning self-confidence by forcing minor children into a battle of wits that they can never win. There are ways to make a point that do not rely on humiliation and intimidation.
"I brought you into this world and I'll take you out of it"? As a sitcom tagline it belongs with "One of these days, Alice... Pow! Right to the moon!" A father insinuating that he'll kill his son if the son fails to live up to his father's expections is funny?
@cirocco: Jeez, over-analyze much? It's a comedy show. He was motivating a lazy kid by explaining to him that he should try to achieve better things in his life. "Insinuating that he would kill his son". Honey, take a Valium.
I actually forget how great that show was from a parenting perspective, because of course I was watching it before I was a parent. I need to go back and see how Dr. Huxtable handled it when he found a dime-bag of weed in Theo's pants pocket, for example. Just wondering.
I remember watching this episode as a kid and HATING IT. I really didn't think it was necessary to put Theo through all that. The Cosbys need to lighten up.
@HereComesMyBaby: Seriously? It made me think that the Cosby's were the most awesome family EVER. My family would never clear out most of the house and roleplay just to teach me a lesson.
This was the very first episode of the show. They started out on a great note and never had a bad episode. One of my top five favorite shows of all time. It never gets old.
@i'm going to have my friends call me valerie: I remember when Nick at Nite used to show "I Love Lucy", "Bewitched" and "I Dream of Jeannie." The world I grew up in is gone. :-(
I would have loved to hear Cliff's opinion on college majors. I'd argue that most of them will not prepare you or give you the skills to earn much more than these dreaded "regular people" (except the regulars won't have massive loans to pay off).
i must, respectfully, disagree. as someone with likely too much education i must say that having each one of the degrees i have has provided me with additional opportunities now and i know will in the future. i'm not saying you must have a degree to get ahead. many innovative people are able to do so without one. but it is more often an advantage than a hindrance. i know the loans suck but they will get paid off.
@meloroast: I'm not talking about being an "innovative" person. I'm talking about being a person who practices a trade that is in demand and will always have job opportunities as opposed to spending thousands of dollars to major in a "soft" subject for a field that may have a handful of openings each year - if you don't get into an elite university & you don't have parents who can subsidize you after graduation, I'd suggest you stay away from those subjects.
This show is just made of awesome, no question. I feel like I somehow was just the right age for it, outgrew it, and then re-grew into it. How is that even possible?
One of my favorites, beyond this one, is the one where they bought that painting at auction. It hung over their fireplace for the rest of the series. I've never seen it in reruns.
i am so with you. downloading season 1 now. i remember people saying it was elitist. but for me (a mixed kid with a physician father) it was just kinda cool to see black people on tv not acting all "ghetto black". i think that is part of the culture but not talking/acting like that is also possible!!!
@JosephFinn: I did not know that! That's amazing. I'm really glad it made it onto the show. I think it resonated with me as a kid because I don't come from people who have art or heirlooms, particularly not ones with cultural significance. I always wanted us to have something like that, that meant as much to us as that painting did to them.
@meloroast: I know, I kind of struggled with that, but the thing is that like a family, they were like us. They were, in fact, far better off than we were. My parents both went to college, but they weren't doctors or lawyers. To us, the Huxtables were like us in the same way the Keatons were like us. That they were black was less relevant than that they were upper middle class, educated, with kids, etc.
OMG. The Dairy Godmother is the shiznit. Best thing in the world is to hit up the Cheesetique across the street for cheese and wine but save some room for dessert at the Dairy Godmother. They have a different flavored custard of the day that they list on their website.
And I will be closer to it once we move to DC next weekend, MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
You come over to my house, and you set a really nice tomato down on my table.
"Here," you say. "This is from my garden. I want you to have this. I have way too many, and many of my tomatoes are going to die before I can use them. But I think we can get some mutual pleasure from this exchange. This tomato is now yours. It's inside your house and whatever happens to it, happens to it."
"Great," I say. "Thanks."
Now, it turns out that that was a nice heirloom non-hybridized tomato, so the seeds are good for creating new tomato plants. If I decide to plant some of the seeds from the tomato, there's a chance I could get a whole new plant of my own--but then I'd have to water it and take care of it. I could just eat the damn thing, or let it rot. I'd then have to dispose of it safely somehow.
If I decide to grow my own tomato plant, you don't get to come over to my house and yell at me about OH MY GOD YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE THAT, YOU'RE SO IRRESPONSIBLE. If I decide to eat the damn thing or throw it away, you don't get to come over to my house and say YOU ASSHOLE, I WANTED US TO HAVE LOTS OF TOMATO PLANTS TOGETHER.
Oh I'm sorry - do parents actually give a shit what they get for Mother's and Father's Day? I was under the impression that they were faking it and really just wanted the day in bed.
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"I brought you into this world and I'll take you out of it"? As a sitcom tagline it belongs with "One of these days, Alice... Pow! Right to the moon!" A father insinuating that he'll kill his son if the son fails to live up to his father's expections is funny?
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P.S. I'm only 21.
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i must, respectfully, disagree. as someone with likely too much education i must say that having each one of the degrees i have has provided me with additional opportunities now and i know will in the future. i'm not saying you must have a degree to get ahead. many innovative people are able to do so without one. but it is more often an advantage than a hindrance. i know the loans suck but they will get paid off.
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One of my favorites, beyond this one, is the one where they bought that painting at auction. It hung over their fireplace for the rest of the series. I've never seen it in reruns.
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i am so with you. downloading season 1 now. i remember people saying it was elitist. but for me (a mixed kid with a physician father) it was just kinda cool to see black people on tv not acting all "ghetto black". i think that is part of the culture but not talking/acting like that is also possible!!!
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And I will be closer to it once we move to DC next weekend, MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
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"Here," you say. "This is from my garden. I want you to have this. I have way too many, and many of my tomatoes are going to die before I can use them. But I think we can get some mutual pleasure from this exchange. This tomato is now yours. It's inside your house and whatever happens to it, happens to it."
"Great," I say. "Thanks."
Now, it turns out that that was a nice heirloom non-hybridized tomato, so the seeds are good for creating new tomato plants. If I decide to plant some of the seeds from the tomato, there's a chance I could get a whole new plant of my own--but then I'd have to water it and take care of it. I could just eat the damn thing, or let it rot. I'd then have to dispose of it safely somehow.
If I decide to grow my own tomato plant, you don't get to come over to my house and yell at me about OH MY GOD YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE THAT, YOU'RE SO IRRESPONSIBLE. If I decide to eat the damn thing or throw it away, you don't get to come over to my house and say YOU ASSHOLE, I WANTED US TO HAVE LOTS OF TOMATO PLANTS TOGETHER.
You see where I'm going with this.
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