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BytheSea
07:29 PM

In reply to Inflight Mag Apologetic Over Holocaust Memorial Fashion Shoot
the aim of which was to highlight some of Berlin's iconic landmarks and certainly no offence was meant."

Oops. You almost pulled it out there, ("were not aware of the images ") but then you admitted that you did know the photo was taken at the Holocaust Memorial.

So, they're saying, we didn't know there was an image of the holocaust museum but we knew all these pictures were of Belin landmarks. OR are they saying, what pictures? We don't know anything about these pictures of Berlin monuments that we're proud of.
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MrsAbraxas
03:50 AM

It ain't easy to translate the sheer awesomeness of being a super-zexy fembot in a male locker room to the pages of a magazine!

The longing glances; the imminent circle jerks; the poorly coordinated uniforms. Might as well call in a supermodel and star photog to shoot it all up right, right?

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TransFat
11/20/09

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I understand the ire. Let me preface by saying both my grandparents were survivors and most of my mom's side of the family were wiped out in the Holocaust. I still think this is being blown out of proportion. If you weren't told where this was shot or if you didn't recognize it I think the aesthetics of the monument make it very photogenic. I don't see how it diminishes the atrocities that happened. I love my tribe. We usually have a sense of humor.

Take my grandmother. She was a notoriously bad driver and frequently got tickets for speeding. On one occasion she was pulled over and put on this big show of crying, and grabbing her chest, and talking about how the officer's sirens made her "poor old heart" stop because she thought it was the gestapo. Needless to say, her performance got her out of the ticket.

If we can make something beautiful to commemorate something evil I don't see why we can't use it for blah pictures in fashion magazines.
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snugbug
11/20/09

@TransFat: Oh, I would love to hang out with your grandma. She sounds like so much fun--and as a born-and-bred Eastern Euro I can certify that all Mitteleuropean women are both the biggest and most hilarious drama queens in the world and, simultaneously, able to move sofas and pianos with their bare hands if push comes to shove.

I also agree that humor has always been the essential survival mechanism of the Jewish Ashkenazi tribe.

But: (there is always a but, isn't there?) Literally stomping on graves is lame. It's a mishegoss. This memorial is not there to serve as a backdrop to some hussy tramping around in borrowed clothing. C'mon, some things need to be off-limits. Yes?
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TransFat
11/20/09

@snugbug: I want to agree for your use of mishegoss, mishugas? alone. But I still maintain that a monument is an artistic statement of a tragic event and too far removed to really get up in arms. But I understand. Sub in Vietnam Memorial and I don't think I would quasi-defend it. Maybe it's the use of specific names. Now, if they did this at auschwitz I would be appalled. I would think it was hilarious but also appalled.

Alas I never knew my own grandma (and let me say, she's actually a nana, but I always feel silly saying nana for some reason) but from stories I really feel her wit and wackiness lives on in me.

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snugbug
11/20/09

@TransFat: I speak some Yiddish, thanks to my own grandma, but I fail at transliterating it properly. Mishegoss/mishugas, I suppose, are both right.

Let's just have a drink right now to our nanas! Let's honor them & their infinite wisdom!
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BytheSea
07:32 PM

@TransFat: But the company says they knew the photo shoot was of Berlin landmarks. Knowing that, what else could it be? Also knowing that, would you stick a photo in the mag when you didn't know what it was?
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wtfox?!
11/20/09

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I would love to have the person who decided this was a good idea diagram their thought process for me, and then try to explain how they arrived at the conclusion that sneaking a fashion shoot into the Holocaust Museum would be an okay thing to do.
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snugbug
11/20/09

@wtfox?!: Disambiguation time! There is no Holocaust Museum in Berlin.

The memorial that EasyJet d-bags used as a backdrop for the shoot is titled "Denkmal für die ermordeten Juden Europas," aka "Memorial to the Slain Jews of Europe."

There is also a Jewish Museum (Jüdisches Museum) in Berlin designed by Daniel Liebeskind, the Ground Zero Project architect. The latter is largely devoted to the greater, historical Jewish experience in Germany, but it has three floors of Holocaust-specific installations that will haunt your dreams. The one I still can't get over is a narrow, angular room with incredibly tall walls--maybe 40 feet high.

You open a massive metal door and go in. The door shuts behind you with a big "thonk!" and you are instantly plunged in almost complete darkness. There is absolutely nothing inside that prison cell-like room. If you lift your eyes skyward, you can glimpse the tiniest, teensiest of skylights, through which a sliver of sunlight streams through. It's such an overwhelming, powerful emotional experience. You literally burst in tears and GET IT. Right there, on the spot.
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bluebears
11/20/09

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I cannot wait for the photo shoot at the Vietnam Memorial. Edgy!
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hughman
11/20/09

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yeah, i'm not smizing.
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bluebears
11/20/09

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whut?
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curiousgeorgiana
11/20/09

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How did they even get permission to shoot at the museum? I mean, WTF??
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snugbug
11/20/09

@curiousgeorgiana: It's not a museum, per se. It's an open air memorial--the size of a small park--filled with several hundreds of "stelae," or funeral slabs.
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curiousgeorgiana
11/20/09

@snugbug: I remember, but I figured it was like most national monuments. You have to have a permit to film/ shoot for commercial purposes. I've seen DC Park Police investigate on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial for example, when it didn't look like just a tourist.
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vulcanized
11/20/09

@curiousgeorgiana: If you just had one photographer and one model in at a time, I don't think security would even notice you were there. I wandered around in there for a while and rarely bumped in to anyone. You can't see very well once you're down in - it's almost mazelike - and it's so big overall, so it seems possible that you could do a quick shoot and never cross paths with security.
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curiousgeorgiana
11/20/09

@vulcanized: That's a good point. It's not as wide open as other monuments.

At the end of the day: just a bad idea.
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token_illiterate_commenter
11/20/09

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No one at easyJet proofed this? I find that really hard to believe.
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Rose.Selavy.Needs.A.Drink
11/20/09

@token_illiterate_commenter: I agree with you. But hey, if that's the way they reeeaallly operate, they can start sending me checks so I can design whatever I want without restraints. Yeah right.
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token_illiterate_commenter
11/20/09

@Rose.Selavy.Needs.A.Drink: I wonder if they have the same laissez faire attitude toward their ad company. "Fly easyJet. We think the Holocaust is sexy!"
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Beets.Go.On is the Fat Yogini
11/20/09

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oh lord, what a terrible idea.
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Being pecked to death by a chicken
11/20/09

@Beets.Go.On is the Fat Yogini: Concur! I'm always fascinated how some of these horrible ideas actually make it through dozens of stages to end up in print. I mean REALLY? No one thought to say, "ya know people, I think this might not be such a good idea."
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curiousgeorgiana
11/20/09

In reply to Project Runway Finale: Armor, Sci-Fi & Tears

I've said it before but: Irina. Please see Jillian Season 4 for the correct way to do armor inspiration w/ hats.
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jhuang
11/20/09

@curiousgeorgiana: Just seeing these three pictures reaffirms my thought about how sucky this season's designs were. :( Hoping it's better in January!
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linnyt is a walking cliché
11/20/09

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This is the first season of PR where I missed episodes and never bothered to watch them later. I did remember that the finale was on that night but I watched King of the Hill instead. I don't even like that show but it doesn't stab me in the heart like bad PR does.
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Tart of Darkness
11/20/09

In reply to LOLVogue: Duz Dis Make Me Luk Lyke A Sex Kittin?
When I first saw those painted stripes on her arms I thought they were bandaids. I guess I have assumptions about the emotional health of moddles and the faux edgy visions of fashion editors.
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cirocco
11/20/09

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2 MENNY ANNAMULS DYED 4 DEEZ LOLZ

I HAZ A SAD NOW :(
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mllej
11/20/09

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After putting up with this entire season, I could not even be bothered to watch last night. I put on The Wire and called it a night. Sigh.
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Zombie Ms. Skittles
11/20/09

@mllej: I didn't watch any of the finale. I am probably going to watch the first few episodes of the next season, but if it continues in this vein then I'm giving up on the show. I'll find something else to watch Thursday nights, like House reruns or something.
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mllej
11/20/09

@Zombie Ms. Skittles: Same here. I was going to hop over to Gawker's liveblog to at least see who won last night but instead asked someone to PM me on Facebook. Used to be the PRun finale was not to be missed.
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