First holiday without my mom, who passed in August. While I do not wish for another family get-together like we had in ye olden days (because I have been forced to divorce my two older sisters), it would have been nice to still have mom around. We had a good day, and the only family involved was me, my hubs, and my daughter. We hung with friends and watched my beloved Longhorns nearly lose a sure-thing football game. An all-around nice day, and surprisingly family-free!
My family and I have a truly good relationship. We drank a lot, played dominos, and my mom made really good food. Nobody would go and see New Moon with me, so I tried to go alone but the stupid movie theatre was ridiculously packed so I went home and drank more. And this morning my mom took me to Ace Hardware where I bought a $10 fancy remote control car. Yes, I am a 9 year old boy, and this 9 year old boy had a great Thanksgiving.
@Snowbunny: Oh, and my cousin just bought two 11-month old golden retriever puppies, so most of the day revolved around them. But this was the fun family, Sunday we're having Thanksgiving with the not fun family so I'll be breaking out these tips.
I followed these rules and was rewarded by having to type up my grandmother's Christmas card mailing labels and got a glimpse at her letter. The only thing it said about me is that I'm "still searching for Mr. Perfect." My grandmother seemed genuinely surprised when I objected to this despite the fact that every time we talk, she asks me if I have a boyfriend yet and I tell her that I don't want a boyfriend right now. And then she invariably suggests I try to date either my gay best friend or my other best friend who has a girlfriend of over five years.
Healthcare debate did take place, but I managed to dodge it by hiding in the kitchen to do dishes.
I was all prepared for this w/ the bf's conservative parents, who came to our house for Thanksgiving this year. Aside from the "why aren't you married yet? Don't you know Jesus doesn't like unmarried couples living in sin?" discussion (which they have more often now w/ the bf's brother, who now has a child with his girlfriend), their family often gets into political squabbles when gathered around the fire with chestnuts.
I was determined not to get into it this year. I would be polite, I would be neutral, I would get up and baste the turkey if they started in on some debatable point.
His father, after dinner, just flat-out blurted out, "What do you guys think of the health care debate?" which made me think, "Damn, you WANT a fight?" The bf's brother and I took a collective breath and prepared to argue, when both the mom and dad said, "I believe we should have national health care."
The room fell silent. We (the bf, the bf's brother, me, the girlfriend) were prepared to fight it out to the death, and the parents actually deflated the argument before it even started by agreeing with us. We didn't know what to do except pour another round of wine and toast to a public option.
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@willwriteforfood: I am an extremely opinionated person who researches for a living (sort of--the "living" part, I mean) and more so when alcohol is involved.
My way of sidestepping these political disagreements is by saying, "Oh, gosh--I'm just so sick of hearing about (x)! It's all they talk about on the news!" followed by some broach of another topic, occasionally aided by a cute dog/child visual.
There were years when I was all for a crash-and-burn style fightfest, but I find that on the holidays now I just want to relax and avoid confrontation. I do it enough in my daily life.
@Vulcan Has No Moon: No one did, surprisingly, and with my vow to not be the instigator of a knockdown-drag out fight, I didn't. That would definitely have set people off, b/c the parents are very pro-life, and the rest of us, well, aren't. I think the shock of us all being in agreement on a political issue felt so good we left it there.
@BetteD: I know, right? I fight enough with my co-workers, I am too old now to fight at home too. I did warn my bf that if his parents started in, I would leave the room, and he duly passed the warning on to them. I suspect they didn't like giving me the impression they weren't a family that can get along, so they put a sock in the more vitriolic rhetoric (and they DO get angry - I've read the emails that fly back and forth).
I broke all these rules. Yesterday after dinner my mom talked about pregnant teenagers or something, so I drunkenly yelled "DON'T PEOPLE GET ABORTIONS ANYMORE!?"
Silence.
Glare of death from my VERY catholic grandmother.
What about teetotaling step-parents? WHAT ABOUT THEM?!? Stepmom COUNTED, out loud, my two glasses of wine. Over the entire day. Not to me directly, of course, but to my father, while I was sitting in the same room with them. Ahh, family.
@jigglyball: We had a just-the-two-of-us Thanksgiving, because my husband had to work (TV job), but the day after we got married my mother-in-law called him to berate "all the drinking" he did at our wedding last month.
One, he was drinking flavored iced tea; the sun and lighting made it reddish, like my wine. Two, he's much closer to 30 than to 20 and can have a glass of wine at his wedding if he wants. He had be starting to argue about it with her when I had to tell him, "Just stop. She'll never listen. Either change the topic or hang up."
I come from a family with an alcoholic streak a mile wide so I understand wanting to guarantee moderation and not overindulge, but good lord the picky in-laws (or step-parents) are more trouble than they're worth...
@jigglyball: Around noon, we each had a glass of champagne. At around 4, my dad comes to get me out of my brother's room playing Rock Band to ask me to go to the store.
I have no idea how, but my stepmom managed to get too drunk to make the biscuits she planned on. I mean, it explains why she was being so nice to everyone, I'm just confused as to how and when she managed to get that drunk.
Or why my dad decided that between him, her, me, and my boyfriend we should finish 5 bottles of wine during/after dinner.
@jigglyball: You should have said, "And darling, I'm about to make it three if we're counting." I have little to no patience for people who judge holiday drinking. If I have to be with your insufferable ass, I need a drink to do so. I generally don't judge you being a horrible person, so you can refrain from judging what I have to do to tolerate you.
@jigglyball: That's my mom. You cannot even have one glass of wine around her without getting the Disapproving Stare of Disappointment and Doom. My entire extended family doesn't drink around her because she makes everyone so uncomfortable about it. For reals. She's very proud of that fact.
@jigglyball: Howsabout teetotaling grandparents and their cowed children, no one can drink. Families were not meant to mingle for upwards of 10 hours without alcohol.
@BytheSea: In fact, I'm pretty sure it's one of Einstein's lesser known but well-credited theories that Family Time (X) = Drinks (X) (2). Hearted for understanding that uninterrupted family time - booze = cruel and unusual.
Men In Black and Men In Black II are acceptable as inoffensive entertainment. I'm well-versed in the art of "dating" my family, with a family full of conservatives on my dad's side. Another great stock answer is, "Being busy at work is job security!"
Another tip: Have some stock answers ready. So when the parents announce that they are going to go harass - sorry, visit - a different sibling this Christmas, don't jump up and down with glee! Gently cheer them on and say thank you for the last Christmas that you spent with them and mention how much you enjoyed it. You can call the other sibling later and laugh.
And when your mother-in-law asks your husband whose pie crust is better, kick him under the table until he says hers. Try to get him to move past the deer in the headlights look. Kick him later when you are at home until he says yours.
Luckily, both my parents hate their extended families, so I get to just go home, lay around on the couch and get spoiled by my parents. I do have to utilize rules 3 & 5 and sorta pretend that my dad doesn't say racist things sometimes, but extra love and attention make it all worth while
Yesterday, my 33-year-old brother almost threw a tantrum because I disagreed with him over what kind of background noise we should have on during the big dinner. He wanted a movie, I wanted classical music. Oprah ended up being the ambiance of choice, but that was almost a minefield because the whole episode consisted of O visiting and interviewing American soldiers. My family is more apathetic than conservative politically, but a discussion about military activity overseas is not one I wanted to have with them.
@Remedios Varo can't see no huevos.: Good lord, why didn't you just put on the football game nobody watches and be done with it? Bonus: there was ice dancing on after the football game!
@Remedios Varo can't see no huevos.: lol I had this exact fight with my younger brother. I wanted Christmas music, he wanted some other kind because he said it wasn't "after Thanksgiving" yet because we hadn't eaten yet. I won.
Reading posts like this make me exceedingly thankful that one side of my family consists of very loud, liberal, beer drinking baseball fans and the other side consists of people who are straight up not mentally all there.
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I was determined not to get into it this year. I would be polite, I would be neutral, I would get up and baste the turkey if they started in on some debatable point.
His father, after dinner, just flat-out blurted out, "What do you guys think of the health care debate?" which made me think, "Damn, you WANT a fight?" The bf's brother and I took a collective breath and prepared to argue, when both the mom and dad said, "I believe we should have national health care."
The room fell silent. We (the bf, the bf's brother, me, the girlfriend) were prepared to fight it out to the death, and the parents actually deflated the argument before it even started by agreeing with us. We didn't know what to do except pour another round of wine and toast to a public option.
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My way of sidestepping these political disagreements is by saying, "Oh, gosh--I'm just so sick of hearing about (x)! It's all they talk about on the news!" followed by some broach of another topic, occasionally aided by a cute dog/child visual.
There were years when I was all for a crash-and-burn style fightfest, but I find that on the holidays now I just want to relax and avoid confrontation. I do it enough in my daily life.
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Silence.
Glare of death from my VERY catholic grandmother.
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Hearted for awe-inspiring bravery.
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One, he was drinking flavored iced tea; the sun and lighting made it reddish, like my wine. Two, he's much closer to 30 than to 20 and can have a glass of wine at his wedding if he wants. He had be starting to argue about it with her when I had to tell him, "Just stop. She'll never listen. Either change the topic or hang up."
I come from a family with an alcoholic streak a mile wide so I understand wanting to guarantee moderation and not overindulge, but good lord the picky in-laws (or step-parents) are more trouble than they're worth...
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I have no idea how, but my stepmom managed to get too drunk to make the biscuits she planned on. I mean, it explains why she was being so nice to everyone, I'm just confused as to how and when she managed to get that drunk.
Or why my dad decided that between him, her, me, and my boyfriend we should finish 5 bottles of wine during/after dinner.
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And when your mother-in-law asks your husband whose pie crust is better, kick him under the table until he says hers. Try to get him to move past the deer in the headlights look. Kick him later when you are at home until he says yours.
Thanks, Anna, for the MST3K clip!!
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