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The HZA.
05/17/09

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Man, my mom isn't going to like hearing her boyfriend, The Buble, is seeing other women....
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Jack_Burton
05/17/09

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A black Frank? Why not?

Nobody bats an eye at 2000 years of caucasian EuroJesus.
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Ms. Ville Valo
05/17/09

@Jack_Burton: Too true. But, in situations like these people's hidden biases show up as seen on this very board. Meh.
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Merkin
05/17/09

@AvaBaer: Situations like this which are totally similar except that one of the people under discussion died within living memory of a lot of people, and is survived by huge archives of documentary footage and negatives, while the other is a figure of shadowy historical authenticity at best, with absolutely no primary source verification, who, if he existed at all, might as easily have been Semitic, which is, in case you missed it, technically Caucasian.
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Jack_Burton
05/18/09

@Merkin: I won't dance...

Don't ask me...
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topsy
05/17/09

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I must have read the wrong post because the one I read doesn't mention Jamie Foxx saying that he wanted to play Sinatra, only an industry source. So why the attacks on Foxx? Jamie Foxx may be an asshole but he's also a damn good actor, and if he were white would be a perfect choice for Sinatra. He has the attitude, can act and can sing (not great but he can carry a tune). The idea of Depp as Sinatra is laughable and Franco is a good physical aspects but is there more there than, oh he's so dreamy'?

Foxx may be an asshole but the judgment on him seems to be a bit harsh compared to the performer who rapped about murdering his ex-wife and cutting up her body. But that's just me.
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Ms. Ville Valo
05/17/09

@topsy: I think they're still holding the comments made on his radio show against him. Some people, it seems, hold a mighty grudge.
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topsy
05/17/09

@AvaBaer: I hear you and he deserves to be condemned for that. It's just I keep getting tripped up by the double (triple, multiple) standard around here. If you're white and fuckable (to some) then you can get away with extreme woman-hate, while if you're black, let the boycotts begin.
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Ms. Ville Valo
05/17/09

@topsy: Yeah, I've noticed. Christian Bale is kind of a good example of that (on this website) except I don't think he's woman-hating. He's just a douche.
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topsy
05/17/09

@AvaBaer: That's funny because I think the whole Christian Bale thing is silly. I've been on a film set and it can be really frustrating. The actor is the most important and the least important person at the same time. The wait for the technical stuff can be crazy and then the actor is supposed to just turn it on. I've never heard of Bale being an asshole. He got mad, excessively so and he got caught because someone was taping. It happens a lot.
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MJ
05/17/09

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Robert Pattinson - which Harry Potter fans have you been talking to? The 10-year olds?

Because I'd totally get sleazy for Ron Weasley.
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la.donna.pietra
05/17/09

@MJ: See, I just can't bring myself to drool over either Daniel Radcliffe or Rupert Grint. I can objectively agree that they have turned into strapping young men, but they were just so little and adorable once upon a time. I feel downright dirty, and not in a good way, thinking about them with lust in my heart.

Oddly enough, I feel the same way about Leonardo di Caprio, and he's a year older than I am.
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bangers
05/17/09

@MJ: oh man you just made me snort-laugh.
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TurtleWexlerKickedMe
05/17/09

@MJ: i've seen him in person. And felt like a cradle robber. Boy is hot.
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la.donna.pietra
05/17/09

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Dear Robert Pattinson,

I, uh, wanted to have sex with you the moment you appeared on screen in Goblet of Fire. I may have made that assessment just seeing a picture of you prior to the movie's release, in fact. You, and the guy who played Tom Riddle in Chamber of Secrets, and the guy who played Viktor Krum, and the guy who played Oliver Wood, and... yeah.

Love, la.donna.pietra
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la.donna.pietra
05/17/09

@la.donna.pietra: Sense and Sensibility gets credit for my wanting to sleep with Alan Rickman, though.
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undomesticgoddess doesn't sleep a wink
05/17/09

@la.donna.pietra: And the Phelps twins.

And Alan Rickman.
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Ulookinatmyjunk, JOC
05/17/09

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That's funny that the role of Frank Sinatra should be considered "color blind", when the real man was far from it...

Jamie Foxx would not serve well in that role. I also hate how Hollywood makes go-to black people for every role. Need a black woman (or some variation thereof)...Halle. Need a black actor...Jamie, Will, or Denzel. There's tons of very talented black actors and actresses out there. I would be ever so grateful if they would not limit the meaty parts to those deemed most palatable by the status quo.
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Sputnik_Sweetheart
05/17/09

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I feel bad for the Miss California organization. Carrie is breaking all the rules, but they can't do a thing about it because the Trump will veto them.

Also, Dollhouse renewed? Is it my birthday?
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Ipomoea
05/17/09

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For a brief, horrifying moment, I thought Bradley Cooper was actually Bradley Whitford, and I was like "noo, Jen, don't date Josh Lyman! He's all work, AND he's Donna's!"
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SisterRay73
05/17/09

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I will NOT be pleased if they cast some cheesy modern Frank-impersonating singer like effing Michael Buble to be Sinatra. God dammit. Harry Connick Jr. is only marginally better, but I would hate that too. Get a freaking actor to play him, not some asshole who revolves their career around being a "Sinatra for the next generation" and singing his songs while they don't have one-tenth of his voice or style.

Gahhhhh. I love Frank's songs a lot and Buble's (among others) massive untalent pisses me off to end. There. End rant.
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topsy
05/17/09

@SisterRay73: I wouldn't worry too much. Buble's too fat and Connick Jr is way too old. Better an actor who can lip sync than one of the very pale imitations of the Chairman.

I absolutely agree with you how frustrating it is too hear people who don't know any better comparing Buble (and those like him) to Frank.
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LaComtesse
05/17/09

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The only thing less appealing to me than a Frank Sinatra biopic is a Frank Sinatra biopic starring Jamie Foxx. Teh lame. All the Blue Eyes on screen I ever need I can get from watching HIS movies, or the first "Godfather" movie.

Johnny! I love you!

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LaComtesse
05/17/09

@LaComtesse: Also, given that it's a Scorsese pic, I'm *shocked* he's not casting Leonardo DiCaprio. That seems to be all he's capable of doing lately. His hard on for that man knows no bounds.
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la.donna.pietra
05/17/09

@LaComtesse: Martin Scorsese is secretly a 13-year-old girl! Quick, alert the presses!
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nyc-caribbean-ragazza
05/17/09

@LaComtesse:

Great pic from one of my favorite movies. I read the Johnny Fontaine story line was based on Frank's troubles with getting a role in "From Here to Eternity."
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LaComtesse
05/17/09

@nyc-caribbean-ragazza: Right now I'm researching/outlining the possibility of doing a book based on Carmella aka Mama Corleone. I kinda want to tell the story from her POV. I think it would be neat: besides, mafia wives have always fascinated me.
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MissMal
05/17/09

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I think that the trouble with casting Johnny Depp is that the picture becomes a Johnny Depp movie rather than a Frank Sinatra movie. I'm sure Depp would do well, but I think a lesser-known actor would have a greater ability to truly become Sinatra.

My grandparents grew up in the same area at the same time as Sinatra and have all these great stories about seeing him perform at little clubs and dances, and then later going to some neighborhood clubs. In the mid 50s, my grandfather took my grandmother out for their anniversary at a very upscale, exclusive restaurant that they obviously could not usually afford. Sinatra was sitting near them and at one point came over to the table with a fork and ate a few bites of my grandmother's dinner, without saying a word. He then sent over a bottle of wine and paid for their bill.

Grandma says James Franco looks like a nice boy. Just sayin'
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LaComtesse
05/17/09

@MissMal: Ha! How cute... and very strange. Your family and my family lived in the same area, btw. If you're Italian, they probably knew each other.
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Merkin
05/17/09

@MissMal: I think Depp might be capable of it actually; he continues to surprise me with his abilities (I think he's the only more or less contemporary "pretty boy" actor who does). Maybe. If he can work with Scorsese. Has he? 'Cause the other thing Depp seems to do is turn into a piece of wood under certain directors.

(I think for certain kinds of directors he'd be a fecking nightmare. He strikes me as the sort of actor who won't be micro-directed, at all.)
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la.donna.pietra
05/17/09

@Merkin: Oh yes. Depp and Polanski was a bad, bad combination.
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CareerUnderachiever
05/17/09

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All this hating on Jeremy Piven is making it really difficult to sustain my love for Ari. I saw him on Season 2 (maybe?) bonus material for Entourage (they were at the Aspen Comedy Fest) and he seemed humble and generous with his cast mates, just a mensch. Call me naive, but is it really possible to be that big a douchebag AND that good an actor? Wouldn't that make him a sociopath? Hmm...
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kelsium
05/17/09

@CareerUnderachiever: Yes. It is entirely possible to be a great actor and a giant dick. It doesn't make him a sociopath, it just means that he's grown too big for his britches.
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CassetteLove
05/17/09

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Also what the hell happened to casting an unknown? You've got the pedigree of Scorsese and I'm sure many other talents will be associated with this film. Be authentic, take a cue from Mad men and find people who can conceivably LOOK and ACT the era, not stunt cast it with Fergie! is! Ava! Gardner!
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Fridge Hussy : Is finally heading back to uni!
05/17/09

@CassetteLove: Yeah, casting Jude Law for a cameo as Errol Flynn in The Aviator was a baaaad choice!
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Hooplehead
05/17/09

@CassetteLove: Scorsese is not so big on thinking outside the box re: casting lately. I'm surprised he hasn't just cast DiCaprio already, since he no longer seems to work with anyone else.
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MockMyWorld
05/17/09

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Ben Stiller: I like you.
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CassetteLove
05/17/09

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"Cool is colour-blind," says an industry source, "Jamie would seem to be born to the role."

Source= Jamie Foxx.
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topsy
05/17/09

@CassetteLove: You know that for sure?
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