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mrs. spriggs
12/23/08

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This is reminding me to keep an eye out for friends and acquaintances who may be struggling with feelings of depression and hopelessness. Married boyfriends or not, this time of year can be really tough for some people.
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hussein persepolis hussein
12/23/08

@mrs. spriggs: Well said. It is a shitty time for many, especially the fragile among us. I am so telling all my friends how much I love them.
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rollergirl76
12/23/08

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There's something about this that seems really suspect to me. I'm starting to doubt that she jumped. I don't know, just a feeling.
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colonelminx
12/23/08

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6 out of 8 men who made advances on me in 2008 were married. my mother says it's because i live in los angeles but i doubt it. CHOADS ARE UNIVERSAL.
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Stabby McStabberson
12/23/08

@colonelminx: i've spent the better part of my life here in l.a. and while choads are universal, there is an extroardinarily dense concentration of them here.
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dreamypisces
12/23/08

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I love how political correct or emotional entune the heading is "fell to her death from an apartment building"

...not to be crude but bitsch jumped. Tragic but true - call a spade a spade.
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rosasparks
12/23/08

@dreamypisces: Seriously?

Please.stop.
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hussein persepolis hussein
12/23/08

@dreamypisces: Um, dickhead? You may want to consider spelling and grammar in your lame postings.
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PilgrimSoul
12/23/08

@dreamypisces: Thanks for your random acts of anonymous internet bravery against the Political Correctness Police.
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rollergirl76
12/23/08

@dreamypisces: What is "entune"? Is that a word or just a misspelled one?
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vwlphb
12/23/08

@dreamypisces: As I explained on another post, this "politically correct" media convention of not explicitly reporting suicides is because reporting suicides encourages more. There has been a clear correlation noted for this.

Besides, in the absence of a coroner's ruling, at this early stage, there's a legal requirement for the media not to speculate on the cause of death. But hey, legality, lives, what the fuck. Just call 'em as you see 'em, right?
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hussein persepolis hussein
12/23/08

@dreamypisces: Oh, and if you are going to start what you apparently consider a "sentence" with "...not to be crude but..." and then go ahead and post something crude, then please, just don't.
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Eleanor Ramilly
12/23/08

@vwlphb: Well said and informative!
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SurrealKiller
12/23/08

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No one just "falls" off a building. My best friend and I were talking about this yesterday. About overwhelming the feeling must be to lose a bf/gf and how some people just can't deal with it and want to end it all.

We couldn't understand how someone gets to that point. Is it love or just extreme infatuation? This love thing is such a powerful. I do think that maybe it was what just pushed her over the edge. She must have been troubled by more that than. That's the best that I can come up with.
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sarah.of.a.lesser.god (aka Mrs. BrutallyHonestHobbit)
12/23/08

@SurrealKiller: I would think it has to be more than that. I've attempted suicide in the past and have battled depression since I was 12, and am currently weathering a very bad breakup. There are definitely times I really want to just fucking give up on everything and do self-destructive shit but it's not because of the breakup per se, more that I feel being dumped has confirmed everything bad I've thought about myself forever.
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badmutha
12/23/08

@sarah.of.a.lesser.god (and the ovumlord of the rings): B,but I thought you were engaged? Did y'all break up?
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Kivrin
12/23/08

@sarah.of.a.lesser.god (and the ovumlord of the rings): (((Sarah))) When is the ovumlord due? Hope you can get back on your meds soon (assuming they ever helped). *hug*
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rosasparks
12/23/08

@badmutha: Oh, badmutha....PM her, I mean it. Sigh....
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Hidin
12/23/08

@sarah.of.a.lesser.god (and the ovumlord of the rings): Thank you for saying that Sarah. I just got dumped over the weekend and have been fighting the "everything bad I've thought about myself is true" battle myself. Fortunately I know the signs and can at least fight it down until it gets better. I'm sending out my good thoughts to you!
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PilgrimSoul
12/23/08

@badmutha: In short, yes. The nutcutter squad has been assembled and is awaiting further instruction.
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AuntieBee
12/23/08

@sarah.of.a.lesser.god (and the ovumlord of the rings): more that I feel being dumped has confirmed everything bad I've thought about myself forever.
I think you really nailed depression right there. Any little thing, breakup or otherwise, can go wrong when I'm in that horrible dark place and it adds to my internal narrative. I know with my brain that I'm not all the bad stuff I tell myself I am, but that doesn't automatically make it stop.
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rosasparks
12/23/08

@sarah.of.a.lesser.god (and the ovumlord of the rings): Depression is about how you feel, and the things in your world that contradict or confirm your feelings. At least that's how I operate & how I deal with myself, as well.

The act of jumping isn't BECAUSE her boyfriend was married. It was that confirmation she needed to end things.
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midwesternmom
12/23/08

@Hidin: That sucks, especially with all the holiday hype to be happy blaring at you every day. Good luck in the next few weeks... (and a big internet hug)
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Green Goth Brit Chick - AlternatEve
12/24/08

@sarah.of.a.lesser.god (and the ovumlord of the rings): Nothing to really add, except a *hug* and good wishes for you and the ovumlord. (Have I told you how much your screen-names have been making me grin since I came to Jez?)
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Kivrin
12/23/08

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Perhaps O/T, but is it somehow more tragic when a beautiful person dies? I understand the tragedy inherent in the untimely deaths of artists: "He/she had so much more to give the world, yada yada yada..." But does this model's beauty make her death somehow more tragic than the hundreds of other suicides that must have happened last weekend? "She had so much more...prettiness...to give the world?" I dunno.

Any and every suicide is tragic, I guess that's what I'm trying to say.
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robot ninja spy
12/23/08

@Kivrin: I think the reason it's treated differently is people have this idea that if they were more beautiful, their lives would be happier, they'd have a better pick of men, etc. and are genuinely shocked to find this stuff can happen to anyone and there is no one factor that would make everything in your life fall in place. Not beauty, not money, not fame, not anything.
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rosasparks
12/23/08

@Kivrin: I am sure that there is something to be said for her being a model and this tragedy. Yes.

Oh, I just can't right now. I'm really worn out by Jez today. And my lack of sleep.
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Stabby McStabberson
12/23/08

@Kivrin: of course it's not more tragic, but some women believe that with perfect beauty and a perfect skinny model body they will find perfect eternal love and happiness. after all, she made a public pronouncement of love in ceremony form, barring any proposal or wedding, so she sounds like she held this belief. most of us never achieve that beauty in the first place and merely hold on to the belief. she had a terribly painful reality check, poor thing.
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Kivrin
12/23/08

@Sour Patch Bitch (r.n. spy returns in the spring): Yeah, you're right. I guess the fact that anyone can still be "genuinely shocked" by this...it genuinely shocks me. But hell, maybe it will help some girl who is sitting around wishing she were model-gorgeous. Maybe she'll read this article and realize, "Hey, even the most beautiful woman in the world can have a shitty life!" Maybe that realization will be a good thing to come out of an otherwise awful event.
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Stabby McStabberson
12/23/08

@Sour Patch Bitch (r.n. spy returns in the spring): jinx. you said it all. i think the fame and money thing is why so many celebrities seem so inexplicably, to us, fucked up.

how can beautiful people be lonely (you fuck more and better looking people but they will still cheat, abuse, and leave you)? how can a wealthy person feel empty (how many cars and planes and houses will make the emptiness go away)? how can someone who is beloved and respected by so many -- heath ledger, britney, and amy winehouse, i'm addressing you -- need to self-medicate to the point of losing your family and maybe your life? the answer is, those things don't make the emptiness and low self worth go away in the long term, and i imagine it might highlight that nothing of that sort will heal the inner wounds.
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Crabby Cakes
12/23/08

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It seems like a very public declaration of love inevitably leads to a very public disastrous end to the relationship.

Jessica Simpson, take note.
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aujee
12/23/08

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wow models are dropping from buildings like pigeon squirts these days
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katekate is squared
12/23/08

@aujee: Nice.
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hussein persepolis hussein
12/23/08

@aujee: Have you thought about getting published? Seriously, you have a fucking gift. For being an asshole.
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rosasparks
12/23/08

@aujee: Wow, you are in a contest with a friend below. You and dreamypisces are really lovely.
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rosasparks
12/23/08

@aujee: You and dreamspisces are friendly today. Yuck.
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PilgrimSoul
12/23/08

@hussein persepolis hussein: This is my new personal retort to EVERYTHING.

Thank you.
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Eleanor Ramilly
12/23/08

@hussein persepolis hussein: Banality and crassness are big sellers nowadays. She could be the next Chuck Palahniuk.
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hussein persepolis hussein
12/23/08

@PilgrimSoul: Ha! I'm with you babe.
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hussein persepolis hussein
12/23/08

@Shannon: I actually love me some crassness if it's clever and well-done. Exactly not like the above.
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Eleanor Ramilly
12/23/08

@hussein persepolis hussein: Yes, but banality coupled with crassness? Not so much.
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hussein persepolis hussein
12/23/08

@Shannon: Yep. Banality is so very lame.
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30RocksMySocks
12/23/08

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While this story certainly has it's own Dido can't live without Aeneas quality, I'm sure this woman was suffering for more reason than just a married boyfriend. How terrible for her. It's very sad.
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katekate is squared
12/23/08

@30RocksMySocks: I just spent like 10 minutes trying to figure out how to say that. Yes.
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Kivrin
12/23/08

@30RocksMySocks: Yes. Assuming she committed suicide, then yes, she obviously had mental problems in addition to those created by boyfriend. Thousands of women have been duped exactly the same way, but they did not commit suicide. It's sad and awful what happened to her, but this model obviously needed psychiatric help. Mentally stable people do not commit suicide over breakups.
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Penny
12/23/08

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Did she fall or did she jump? 'Cause it sounds like the latter.
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Stabby McStabberson
12/23/08

@Penny Plastic (Archetype):i've been there. it's a living nightmare.
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Stabby McStabberson
12/23/08

@Stabby McStabberson: oops, comment meant for your post above.

sounds like suicide to me, but hopefully the police are taking a close look at things.
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Wit is periodically disensouled
12/23/08

@Penny Plastic (Archetype): Dunno. The Independent article mentions that people heard her scream first. How horrible.
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morninggloria
12/23/08

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I internet stalk the shit out of everyone that I date once I decide that I like them. Either this woman didn't put her lovers through a similar vetting process or this guy was very dastardly and sneaky about hiding things.
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DangerMouse
12/23/08

@morninggloria: Or he has a very common name. Some of us are very difficult to webstalk.
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morninggloria
12/23/08

@DangerMouse: I'm just trying to fathom how in a long term relationship someone would never hear not one inkling of things being off.... it seems very strange. Like, did not one of his friends ever slip up and mention something about the family? Did she meet any of his friends? If not, isn't that a red flag? Did she meet his parents? If not, isn't that a red flag? If she did meet his parents, did they not express disapproval?
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Crabby Cakes
12/23/08

@morninggloria: When she publicly declared her love for the guy, did she mention him by name? How did the wife not know? Or did she? There are so many unanswered questions.
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morninggloria
12/23/08

@Crabby Cakes wants some Dance Biscuits.: Does his wife not read any papers? Did it ever weird the model out that some nights he was completely unreachable? Did the wife ever suspect that anything was going on? Why or why not?
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dreamypisces
12/23/08

@morninggloria: Oh, so VETTING is now a term we use outside of the political arena. So noted...
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theysaidwhat
12/23/08

@dreamypisces: It's always been used outside the political arena. Dictionary: it is your friend.
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SisterMaryMartha
12/23/08

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Ohno.
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rosasparks
12/23/08

@SisterMaryMartha: I just can't.

Every time minisparks makes me grin, something else makes me grimace and put my head on my desk.

This is AWFUL.

I hope that motherfucking 'boyfriend' loses his nads in a bet.
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SisterMaryMartha
12/23/08

@rosasparks: I don't often comment out loud- when reading Jez, but this is the second time today, that I have.
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sarah.of.a.lesser.god (aka Mrs. BrutallyHonestHobbit)
12/23/08

@SisterMaryMartha: Yeah, this is just fucked up. I feel so sad that she really thought this was her only option.
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katekate is squared
12/23/08

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So, I gather that we're assuming she committed suicide, since she fell "after" learning her boyfriend had a wife?
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katekate is squared
12/23/08

@katekate is squared: Hence the "suicide" tag. Duh!
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Meglantine
12/23/08

@katekate is squared: I didn't realize at first that you had just responded to your own comment and was on the verge of getting up in someone's face about the response. Glad I caught that, whew! I've got your back, just in case.
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Stabby McStabberson
12/23/08

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She "held a ceremony last year in which she publicly declared her love for her boyfriend."

oh honey.
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DangerMouse
12/23/08

@Stabby McStabberson: How did this guy live with himself even before the suicide?
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Stabby McStabberson
12/23/08

@DangerMouse: they live with themselves very well. don't ask me how i know this.
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Nuckin Futz for you
12/23/08

@Stabby McStabberson: Wow so she had been dating this man for awhile. I can see why she was so torn up...first he had been cheating and lying the ENTIRE relationship, and she clearly loved him but would always be considered the other women. How sad and tragic.
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Penny
12/23/08

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I feel so terrible when people have obviously had all of their perspective sucked out of them, rendering them sad, empty souls. This breaks my heart.
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