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bananaprincess
04/01/09

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my sister is four years older and loves nothing better than people thinking she is younger than me.
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Scout
03/31/09

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why is money spent on "research" like this when its a well known fact that women get fat injections for their face to create the "baby face" look which infers youth.

I've known plenty of people with fat faces who looked old (too much sun, not enough sleep, poor diet, smoking et al) and plenty of people with thin faces who didn't look old.

its genetics and lifestyle stupid and we've known this stupid and "scientists" continue to be funded for this stupid research.

The only sliver of value I find in this is for those people who are so goddamn vain that they need a "scientist" to tell them they will look older unless they stop extreme dieting.
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grrl
03/31/09

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age normally? that's like cultural heresy!! burn her, she's a witch!!!

my take on the situation is that we still live in a culture that believes woman's primary value is appearance and sexuality (in addition we're a capitalist culture and the beauty industry is very profitable). Which is why the focus as you age in on LOOKING younger, not feeling younger, not remaining active, not remaining healthy, not the sexual experience and confidence you have, not your wisdom gained or experience learned or how much you can accomplish as you age. Just how you look. So of course, wouldn't we all want to look like we're 20 and untouched by any life or man or kids when we're 60? because otherwise, what good are you? [sarcasm]

I once read an interview where Jane Fonda, once known for her acting ability or her interest in feminist issues, said she considered her greatest accomplishment as a 50-something woman was that she still fit in the same dress size as when she was 20. Kittens cried that day.
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inabook
03/31/09

@grrl: This study sayis nothing about looking older, especially not about looking 20 when we're sixty. its talking about things that make you look older.
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cirocco
03/31/09

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Welp, I'm turning 40 this year, have a BMI of 18, and still get carded when I buy a six-pack at the grocery store. I am pleased to note that this study bears out what I have always hoped in my darkest heart to be true:

I AM SUPERHUMAN

THE LAWS OF NATURE DO NOT APPLY TO ME

(ALSO I MAY HAVE HAD TOO MUCH COFFEE THIS MORNING)
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poires et poireaux
03/31/09

@cirocco: Awesome. This will likely be me in 10 years. Or maybe I'll look like a 16 year-old with crows feet.
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lenora
03/31/09

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this all assumes looking old is bad. I'm looking forward to aging more in my face, because people treat mature women differently.
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inabook
03/31/09

@lenora: But the study doesn't assume looking old is bad. That's all the media, including Jez.
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sciencerules
03/31/09

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Does anyone have access to the actual study? Apparently my institution won't let me access the plastic and reconstructive surgery journal.
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poires et poireaux
03/31/09

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Am I crazy for being 29 and wanting to look older? Not older than my age, per se, but older than I look. I think because I've always looked young for my age and growing up, I was made fun of for it. Even now, when people say, "You look so much younger!" I know it's supposed to be a compliment, but I can't help but feel offended. I find people take me less seriously when they think of young, or assume I'm quite naive.

Slightly off-topic, but, y'know...
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vanka-vstanka
03/31/09

@poires et poireaux: I sometimes feel that way too. I have a hard time being taken seriously sometimes, I think, because I look sixteen years old when I actually, y'know, have already graduated college and lived out in the world.
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SmillaSnow
03/31/09

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This is stupid. How about we focus on health instead of wasting money on bullshit studies like this. Yo-yo dieting is a bad idea for more reasons than that it makes you supposedly look older. Unfortunately, with all of the hysteria about fat right now, more people are yo-yo dieting than ever.
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inabook
03/31/09

@SmillaSnow: What is it about his study that makes you call it "bullshit"?
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sciencerules
03/31/09

@SmillaSnow: We do focus on health. Not all studies currently ongoing are represented in the press, but it's very, very difficult to get federal funding these days unless you can prove that there is some sort of "translational"--that is, "applicable to patients in hospitals or to preventing people from landing themselves in hospitals"--application for your research. Also, as @inabook pointed out before, there are a TON of people who do non-health related research, in history or English or sociology whose reserach this community supports.
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inabook
03/31/09

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Things I don't understand: why so many people automatically assign value to a study and bitch about the study itself. The value judgements are mostly being done by the press. The researchers just note the correlations. And honestly, most of these dudes? Do not fit women who fit the sterotypical male gaze. Trust me. I've been hit on by a Case Med researcher before.
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sciencerules
03/31/09

@inabook: I used to work there. It is a whole lot of not-stereotypically-attractive men OR women. I'm with you on the value judgements--most science doesn't work like that! It's not like you can submit a grant to the NIH or NSF titled "NEW WAYS TO MAKE WOMEN FEEL BAD ABOUT THEMSELVES"
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gerbilsoutofexile...is cheap and easy
03/31/09

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So, I'm aging backwards then? The older I get, the fatter I get - perpetual youth!
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jeepgirl
03/31/09

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For everyone who fits these "rules", you can find someone who is the exception.
My mom is 81, she weighs 120 lbs soaking wet and she looks AMAZING -at least 10 years younger.
Of course, she eats healthy, gets exercise and doesn't drink so I AM SCREWED.
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MJ
03/31/09

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Maybe so, but the women who get their faces artificially pumped up with God knows what certainly don't look younger, either.
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msAnthrope
03/31/09

@MJ:

i think it depends on the surgeon. just yesterday i saw some photos of madonna in malawi, compared to a photo of her when she was there in 2006. that girl has had some serious cheek filling done~~ her cheeks are as full as mine were when i was 12! it's definitely worked for her face.
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JoaquinPhoenix's Hairstylist
03/31/09

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What if you keep all your weight in your ass? I can't get my fat to move above my belly button. I have a skinny top so my face is fairly thin no matter what I do! So now i have a fat ass and wrinkles? Thanks!
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vanka-vstanka
03/31/09

@JoaquinPhoenix's Hairstylist: Same. I don't even get the added poundage benefit of bigger boobs.
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inabook
03/31/09

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Shine on, forever Case Western Reserve!
It makes me excited to see research come out of the school I went to for undergrad. (ok, this is the med school, but still, its all Case).

This is a very good, respected research institution. Really. And it makes me excited whenever it gets national attention.
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DoubleExpresso - Better When Frozen!!
03/31/09

@inabook: and with the most freakin' awesome little italy close by! FEAST! :)
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LaComtesse
03/31/09

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My mom always jokes that she doesn't want to lose weight a) because she doesn't care and b) because "the fat is filling in the wrinkles"

I always thought this was a cute thing to say.
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