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CKash
06/22/09

In reply to Strip Club Sues 14-Year-Old Forced To Dance Topless
what is more confusing is that they are suing the girl because she "exposed her breasts" which is apparently against the law in a strip club in TX??

apparently the person who assaulted her also gave her a fake ID. which is what they verified her age with. as bizarre as it sounds, i have a childhood friend who's younger sister used to strip at a club 1/2 an hour from her hometown when she was 15 and she had a fake ID. her family only found out because a friend of the father's went to the club and recognized her. totally 'effed up, but true
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hellosunshine
06/22/09

@CKash: That part (among, you know, ALL of the details of the case) is weird - it's certainly not illegal to be topless at a strip club in Texas.
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EllaEnchanted
06/22/09

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This is sort of why Northeasterners think "things" about Texas...
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schatzepage
06/22/09

@EllaEnchanted: And this is why Texans think Northeasterners are close-minded.
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margareita metermaid
06/22/09

@schatzepage: is that you, hooot?

anyway, yeah, generalizations are bad-- i agree.
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BabyJane
06/22/09

@EllaEnchanted: I would prefer not to have you speak for me, if it's all the same. Terrible, shameful things have a tendency to happen in all sorts of locations.
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hellosunshine
06/22/09

@schatzepage: FRIENDED.

Shit happens everywhere.
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morninggloria
06/22/09

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Don't Undress With Texas.
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sympathyforthebasementcat
06/22/09

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Wait -wha? Really? What is wrong with the world?

I need JessicaLoveJoy's Grampa Simpson over it gif for this Monday morning.
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lalaland13
06/22/09

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This is like the worst case ever of "She was asking for it, that whore!"
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Laulau
06/22/09

@lalaland13: I briefly googled to try to find the reference, but I remember reading in an academic article (either philosophy or law) about a judge who claimed that a four or five year old (whom I believe had been sexually abused - certainly something in that vein) was very flirtatious and provocative. A toddler. And as much as reading that made me want to eat a gun, anyone who does remember the specific case would be appreciated.
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MissMoneypenny
06/22/09

@Laulau: Sadly, I doubt that this is such a rare occurance. Once I went to a talk given by some social workers who work with abused children, and one had recently had a case where the abuser was given a light sentence because the six year old sitting in his lap was being provocative and he couldn't help getting aroused.
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debo matar la zombi goldberry83
06/22/09

@MissMoneypenny: I really think that the only appropriate response is to disbar and vomit on the judges who make decisions like that (not necessarily in that order - whichever, really).
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CurtCole
06/22/09

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The lawsuits are dumb - My brain is numb
Deep in the heart of Texas.
I'm forteen- Means I'm for teens
Deep in the heart of Texas.
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CurtCole
06/22/09

@CurtCole: *fourteen, damn it, I'm obviously from deep in the heart of Texas.
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18thfloor
06/22/09

@CurtCole: Hey now, there are many Texas jezzies who are excellent spellers. Thank you very much!
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CurtCole
06/22/09

@18thfloor: ...kidding.
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hellosunshine
06/22/09

@18thfloor: Right? I'll cut a bitch who insults my spelling.

/former spelling bee champion, educated by Texas public schools
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ElleL
06/22/09

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Wow. I have so many questions!

How does one sneak out of the house to strip? What do you tell your parents?

How do you GET THERE?

How does 14 pass for 22?

How does this happen!?

Poor girl.
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ElleL
06/22/09

@ElleL: Ignore the above... she was kidnapped and forced into it. Reading: I didnt do it. :(
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BlackFrancine
06/22/09

@ElleL: I knew a girl in high school who stripped. She lied to her parents, saying that she had a job doing phone surveys that paid in cash based on how many surveys you got completed. But seeing as this girl was kidnapped, I doubt coming up with a lie to tell her parents was necessary.

I imagine this girl couldn't really pass for 22--that the club owners, managers, and patrons suspended disbelief because they were profiting from her exploitation.
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ElleL
06/22/09

@BlackFrancine: Oh wow, that is actually not a terribly bad lie? It could definitely pass eh?

Yeah, the whole situation is very sad.
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BeckyIva
06/22/09

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I've heard that these outrageous lawsuits are often an insurance thing... Someone always has to be at fault in an insurance claim, so you have to find someone to sue... Something like that. Could that be the case here?
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BeckySharper
06/22/09

@BeckyIva: That seems likely to me. I think they're covering their asses because the penalty for employing minors is probably losing their liquor license or being shut down by the city.
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BeckyIva
06/22/09

@BeckySharper: It's just a situation where the legal red tape means you have to file a really ridiculous suit... Reminds me of the woman who had to sue the person who pulled her out from under a burning car.
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debo matar la zombi goldberry83
06/22/09

@BeckyIva: Insurance situations are completely bizarre a lot of the time; I remember (and this was a long time ago, so I'm shaky on some of the details - I was about 10) my great uncle had to get his wife to sue him so that they could get the insurance for some business related problem (it was completely above-board, legally; it was just the only way it was going to work).
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DutchessOfDork
06/22/09

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Ummm.

What?

The girl was kidnapped, sexually assaulted and forced to do this. But yet..... she's the problem?

I just. don't understand.
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cuteasabutton
06/22/09

@DutchessOfDork: Well she is female so of course it's her fault! Blame it on teh wimminz! Duh!

/sarcasm
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BlackFrancine
06/22/09

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I guess they couldn't be bothered to actually check her ID.

And--what? They knew that she was abducted and forced to strip, and yet they still have the nerve to sue her, as if her lying wasn't coersed?
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CrankyOldBroad
06/22/09

@BlackFrancine: How very 'Dancing at the Blue Iguana.'
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amowls
06/22/09

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...They don't check ID at these places?
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EdnasEdibles
06/22/09

@amowls: No joke. When I was 16 I worked at a frozen custard stand and had to totally provide proof of age.
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AnnoyingFemaleLeadVoiceover
06/22/09

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Given the numbers of teen-aged prostitutes in the Dallas area, I seriously doubt that someone at the club didn't know that this girl was only 14.
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CalHobbes
06/22/09

@AnnoyingFemaleLeadVoiceover: I'm sorry, am I missing something. The strip club was in Corpus Christi. And I live in Dallas and was unaware we had an unusually large teen-aged prostitution situation...not that having teen-aged prostitutes is every NOT a problem. Is it particularly worse than other cities?
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AnnoyingFemaleLeadVoiceover
06/22/09

@CalHobbes: I don't know why I thought that the club was in the Dallas area, but yes Dallas does have an unusually large teen-aged prostitution situation due to runaways from troubled homes and parents pimping-out children.

[www.couplescompany.com]

I can't find the original story I read that supports the numbers, but here are some very specific articles on recent cases:

[www.pire.org]

[www.dallasobserver.com]

[cbs11tv.com]

/mixing different stories, threadjack
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hellosunshine
06/22/09

@CalHobbes: Right? I live in Dallas too and had no idea...
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nex0s
06/22/09

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Isn't this case totally backward? And what the hell will they get out of suing a 14 year old who doesn't have anything anyway?

I wish I could say I'm shocked, but nothing shocks me anymore.
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schweppes
06/22/09

@nex0s: I think they're suing her so that they can get a declaration that they didn't violate state law by hiring her because she's guilty of fraud. So they're trying to pre-empt the inevitable criminal charges if they don't do anything.
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AtomiClash: humanitarian misanthrope
06/22/09

@nex0s: my guess is it's an attempt at preemptive litigation. That is, they're suing first so as not to get thrown in the clink where they belong.
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Pizza!Pizza!Pizza!
06/22/09

@schweppes: That sounds about right. Still, I'm curious if they think this will be taken better by the public because people will think she's somewhat complicit.
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BeckySharper
06/22/09

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So the strip club's outraged by her "lying"? Morally outraged? So morally outraged they're taking legal action?

Yeah, good luck with holding the moral high ground, fellas.
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topsy
05/16/09

In reply to A Burlesque Dancer Denounces Burlesque
What is the difference between 'burlesque' and 'stripping'. Dita von Teese is a fan-favourite around here but is it just because a lot of white girls want to be like her? I've seen her perform (at a charity function) and while she had expensive clothes on, it looked a lot like the strippers who used to perform at the local dive when I was in high school. I've never seen the LGBT performers that the author mentions so maybe I just haven't seen the real thing.
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