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"Some People Just Don't Think She's Homeless Enough"
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Mellu
09/10/09

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Man, I don't even really care how homeless this chick is or what's going on....she just deserves my utmost respect for staying sooooo cool during this HORRIFIC interview - she was a PILLAR of quiet dignity in that sea of drunken, haggy, theatrical menopausal bullshit. Poor girl. I just want to take her out for a beer!
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Flackette Goes Retro
09/10/09

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My parents are about to lose their house, so I guess they will be "homeless" soon. They are professional, educated people in their late 50s. My dad has a law degree and my mom has a masters in French and drives a newish Volvo, which she refuses to sell because it's a reliable car and her last concrete asset. Unbeknownst to her, it turned out everything else was mortgaged and leveraged to the hilt, and my dad was too afraid to tell her until it all came crashing down. They will need to move in with my brother, and though their pension will allow them to contribute to bills, for the first time since 1976 they will not own a home. The face of the foreclosed and homeless doesn't always look like people think it should.
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WashingMyHair
09/10/09

@Flackette Goes Retro: I'm sorry to hear about your parents difficulties. I've been there with my father. You'd think that by now, the stereotype would've lessened. Sadly, no.
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mfnher
09/10/09

@Flackette Goes Retro: I feel for you. I'm so concerned my own mother is headed this way. She has almost no income due to the recession and has only $50,000 left of her savings at 64 years old. How long can she keep working? I don't want her to move in with my husband and myself, but I know it's inevitable. 1400 square feet with 3 people and four dogs. I don't know how that's going to work. Your parents are lucky to have you and your brother's support.
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Zombie Ms. Skittles
09/10/09

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They are aware that "homeless" does not necessarily translate to "unwashed, wearing rags pulled from the garbage, and muttering loudly while pushing a shopping cart down the street" yes?
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WashingMyHair
09/10/09

@Zombie Ms. Skittles: I don't know but didn't one right wing personality recently state that they were surprised to see so many people with cell phones at a food bank? As if somehow you shouldn't be there if you can afford a cell phone.
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Lymed
09/10/09

@WashingMyHair: Well, they should get rid of their cell phones and sell their cars and anything else that might make it possible for them to get a job and show up to the job everyday before they are allowed to get food from a food bank, right?
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WashingMyHair
09/10/09

@Lymed: Of course. It doesn't take much thought to see that it's pretty hard to get a job without a phone for them to contact you on. Or a car to transport you to and fro.

If they just pulled themselves up from their bootstraps....
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boobookitt
09/10/09

@WashingMyHair: Why are homeless people spending money on boots and bootstraps?????
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argle-bargle? or fou-ferraw?
09/10/09

@boobookitteh: swish!
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kendrajayne
09/10/09

@WashingMyHair:
I work in social services and it is a constant surprise to me as well. A cell phone is not a basic necessity. It is a $50/mo luxury item. That is why agencies won't pay for cell phones bills.

Paying for a cellphone, while claiming you *need* to use the food bank's food is the high of entitlement and arrogance. No one *needs* a cell phone, people lived for a millennium without them.
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Dirk Anger
09/11/09

@Kendrajayne: Don't you have pre-paid cards in the US? Nowadays everybody has 2 or 3 old cellphones lying around, you can have a number where you can be called, and you don't need to spend any money except for maybe $10 the first month. Also you could use it to call emergencies in case of necessity
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Penny
09/10/09

In reply to "Some People Just Don't Think She's Homeless Enough"
When people think of the homeless, they tend to have an archetype in mind, but given the current economy and the shit that's gone down, that has got to change.

I AM curious as to how she was blogging while without a home (Starbucks?). Where does she live now?
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schweppes
09/10/09

@Penny: Yeah, the article mentioned she'd buy $5 cards at S-bucks to blog. Though I remember reading of other homeless bloggers who use public libraries to blog also.
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Lymed
09/10/09

@schweppes: Public libraries are incredible resources for the homeless. Not only are they an escape from bad weather, they also provide access to newspapers and computers to assist people in job searches and allow them to keep in contact with friends and family.
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alexa
09/10/09

@Penny: Please don't assume that homeless people don't have cellphones or internet access. A lot of folks use prepaids because employers won't consider them if they list a shelter phone number. Nice, eh? If you're homeless, we like to make it AS HARD AS POSSIBLE to get a job, just so douche hats can mock you about it.
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Lymed
09/10/09

@alexa: Some cities have started programs where people who are homeless can access their own voice mail line for job hunting purposes.
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Penny
09/10/09

@alexa: Did I?
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WashingMyHair
09/10/09

@Penny: I don't think you did. I know I mentioned in the tread above that some right wing ass mentioned his surprise at seeing so many folks with cell phones at a food bank. Maybe this was intended for that.
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alexa
09/11/09

@Penny: "I AM curious as to how she was blogging while without a home (Starbucks?)."

It was in response to that. Technology is widely used by homeless people, teens especially. It's a vital tool in networking and arranging for places to stay/sleep/bathe.
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Lymed
09/10/09

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People think they know what homeless looks like. But there are many people who are homeless and show up at their job every day without their coworkers being able to tell they are homeless.
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badmutha
09/10/09

@Lymed: Witness Christopher Gains, the man who the movie "The pursuit of Happyness" was about.
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Lymed
09/10/09

@badmutha: A friend of mine from college was living out of her car for a period of time. A mutual friend discovered it because he happened to pass by her car while she was getting ready for work and he realized she had slept in it overnight. If it hadn't been for that, nobody would have known.
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WashingMyHair
09/10/09

@Lymed: What's the most heartbreaking is the increasing number of homeless school children.
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Flackette Goes Retro
09/10/09

@WashingMyHair: And older people. Two vulnerable populations.
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