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Ultraprison!
11/19/09

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Wow, way to be an old coot, Clint Eastwood. "Kids today are a bunch of spoiled brats! They don't know what The Greatest Generation went through!"

Also... Fantasia Barrino has fans??
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not_zooey
11/19/09

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Okay, so I'm sure that no one actually cares... and I'm embarrassed that I know this. But, just because Hulk Hogan's face was bloody doesn't mean the fight was real. (My boyfriend is way into wrestling and that is how I know this.) It's called "getting color." After a wrestler gets hit in the face he grabs his hands over his face (like he's in pain) and digs his fingernails into the fleshy part above the eyes/below the eyebrows. It's the thinnest piece of skin on your face and the easiest to make bleed a lot. So yeah, it's a sick trick they do to make their fights look real. Just FYI. Oh, or sometimes around the hairline. But, mostly right above their eyes so the blood is all in their face. Sick, yeah.
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Red-headed bookworm
11/19/09

@not_zooey: Or they cut their skin beforehand so a little hit will make them bleed a bunch. Ric Flair was known for this so...not buying the fight was real even if there was blood.
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Australienne
11/19/09

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The reason girls can 'relate' to Bella is that Stephanie Meyer wrote the character to be completely one-dimensional and not show any evidence of a personality (like all of her characters). Girls can imagine themselves as Bella because despite being the main character and narrator of four novels, she is literally a blank slate for them to project their own personalities on, not because she is relatable.
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RenoDakota
11/19/09

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Oh Rachel Ray... I loathe you. I loathe your EVOO and your fake smile and your yum-O. It makes me so satisfied to hear you proclaim Martha Stewart's superiority. And I don't even like Martha that much, it's just hearing you admit that you are not so good at something. That something being what you've made your reputation on, cooking. So you're admitting you're a sham, hmmm?
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Hana Maru
11/19/09

@RenoDakota: Ouch! How is RR a sham? She's never claimed to be a chef, and she's always been open about her inability to bake. In all her years in the public eye, she's never shown herself to be anything but a warm, sweet and gracious person, in the face of all the vitriol that is thrown at her.

All she does is try to get busy people who might not be into cooking, to make some simple meals. Personally, I'm not into her show. My tastes run more towards Martha, but I don't hate her for offering something to other people. When I was a teen, learning to cook, I probably would have gotten a lot from her shows.
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clochette
11/19/09

@RenoDakota: Oh I feel you. Why is someone who doesn't know about cooking trying to tell people how to cook? I mean, basic principle: don't use 'EVOO' (cringe!) in situations where you need to heat the oil! I don't like it when people attack her personally on her appearance, etc., but I guess her ethos runs contrary to mine. For me, fast, good food should be about simple, effective flavour combinations and a good technique to make the most out of the ingredients, but her food seems to rely on processed carbs, lots and lots of cheese (I LOVE cheese, but it's a lazy way to add flavour) and strangely over-complicated 'simplifications'.
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tewkesbury
11/19/09

@Hana Maru: yeah, it's interesting, I think R.R. is probably much more of a "teacher," in that respect. She doesn't communicate anything complicated, but her audience is not an audience of people who want to make complicated food. And I rather doubt Martha Stewart's audience is, either. Martha's show is all aspirational--I can't imagine many people finish an episode and then set out to make their own marshmallows. It's just interesting watching someone else do it.
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RenoDakota
11/19/09

@Hana Maru: I don't hate her, either, so I suppose that "loathe" was a strong word for me to have used.

What's always bothered me about her is that I feel like her show dumbs down food, and it dumbs down entertainment. She talks to her viewers like they're children. Maybe, as you suggested, many of them of are teenagers learning to cook so that's appropriate. But I think she's insulting to an adult audience. Obviously, she's rich from doing it, so I'm in the minority here.
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Hana Maru
11/19/09

@RenoDakota: For someone who thinks they don't hate her, you sure have thought a lot about all the things that bother you about her.

I didn't suggest that many in her audience are teenagers, but that they are beginner cooks. I started cooking as a teenager, I've cooked professionally in my career, but not everyone has. The things she makes are the things that I wanted to learn to make first. There's a lot of value in that. Her audience doesn't think she's insulting them.

She talks to everyone not like they're children, but like a friend who wants to learn to cook. I even saw her do a show with children and she didn't condescend to them at all. Her perky personality isn't for everybody, but there's no reason for you to say that it's fake, unless you need to come up with reasons to hate her.
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Hana Maru
11/19/09

@clochette: About the EVOO, she gets harped on a lot for this, but a lot of Food Network chefs do it, even Mario Batali, who uses nothing else. I once saw him pour about a gallon of it, bright green, into a pot for frying.

I don't use EVOO for cooking, but every time I've tried to stop a friend from doing it, they were surprised. Some grocery stores don't even carry regular olive oil. It's hardly a cooking standard.
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Hana Maru
11/19/09

@tewkesbury: LOL, I do make my own marshmallows. They're so much better! I'm in the process of planning a gingerbread house for this year, right now.

I get what you're saying, though. Not everyone is an ambitious cook, nor do they need to be pushed in that direction by someone on tv. Some people don't have the time, or the inclination, for that sort of thing.

I get P.O.'d at Martha haters too, people who rag on her for doing things "nobody" has the time for. It's there for people who want it, you know?
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julijet
11/19/09

@Hana Maru: I use EVOO to cook all the time. I have never heard this. Why is this frowned upon?
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Hana Maru
11/19/09

@julijet: 2 reasons that I know of: that it has a low smoke point, and that the delicate flavor is destroyed by cooking. However, about the second thing, since EVOO is so popular now, a lot of it is cheaper or the same price as regular OO. If you don't use it for high heat, I don't think it's a big deal.
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RenoDakota
11/19/09

@Hana Maru: I don't think that I don't hate her. I don't hate her. I can find her public persona distasteful without hating her because I don't know her, at all. I am sure she's lovely when not fashioning herself as brand. She's had some great bands at her SXSW party, so we've got some common ground there. I tend to reserve hatred and other such strong feelings for people I know who are truly reprehensible.

One thing's clear, though. You're really passionate about defending her.
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Hana Maru
11/19/09

@RenoDakota: Call it whatever you want, your feelings are amply evident from your first comment on.

And, yeah I'm passionately defending her against a bunch of petty, baseless charges. How is that a bad thing?
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RenoDakota
11/19/09

@Hana Maru: Please reread my post, because I didn't say it was a bad thing.

However, I did say in my second message that I'd spoken too strongly in my initial post. I also didn't make any "charges" against Rachel Ray. We're not talking facts here, only opinions. I stated an opinion about her public persona - that wasn't necessarily clear in my initial post, but all I was trying to express was that I found her to be cutesy and patronizing to her audience. I, apparently, am not her audience. I'm just not into what she's selling. And that's okay. It's also okay that you are. I don't feel any need to convince you otherwise because we simply have different opinions.

So I'm sorry that I seem to have offended you with my dislike for RR's show. We just have different opinions or tastes, apparently.
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Hana Maru
11/20/09

@RenoDakota: I did read what you wrote, and I'm amazed at all of your contradictions. The charges, including calling her a sham with a fake smile who insults her audience, were opinions, I know. They have no supporting evidence, however, and if you have no basis for your opinions, you're going to get called out. If you then dither and vacillate and don't take responsibility for what you say, that's going to get you called out too.
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fivebyfive
11/18/09

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If Carrie Underwood marries Mike Fisher and changes her last name, she'd be Carrie Fisher.
I'm not sure how I feel about this...
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Kateness has the skin of a KILLER
11/19/09

@fivebyfive: Clearly, she and the original Carrie Fisher would have to battle to the death a la Highlander. There can only be one.
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willwriteforfood
11/18/09

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"Why isn't anyone talking about the charity work and all of the charitable organizations that Carrie's involved in?"

Why doesn't SHE start talking about her charitable work? Does she do any? Who the hell would know; all she's done is whine about being a victim. But she's got that down to a T.
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screaming_on_the_inside
11/18/09

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I can't be the only person who is so sick of the whole Twilight thing. I am so tired of hearing about it.
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kookla
11/18/09

@screaming_on_the_inside: Right there with you and Miley Cyrus. Don't get it. Don't want to get it.
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Mrs. Stephen Fry
11/19/09

@screaming_on_the_inside: I haven't read the books or seen the film, but I'm going to now just to prevent having anything in common with Miley.
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screaming_on_the_inside
11/19/09

@Mrs. Stephen Fry: I read the first one & by the end I kept yelling at the book, "Shut up! Stop whining!"
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bitchyspice
11/18/09

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Classy response, Rachael -- Ur doin it rite!
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sailorsong
11/18/09

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I just saw this pic of Martha Stewart on Dlisted and it is great.
Rachel Ray is right, she runs it.
She taught me how to easily put my duvet cover on...priceless.
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ShanaElmsford
11/18/09

@sailorsong: Um,. how does one easily put my duvet cover on?
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sailorsong
11/18/09

@ShanaElmsford: Ok this is how, turn the duvet cover inside out and grab both angles of the short side of the rectangle (from the inside) then take hold of the corresponding angles of the blanket to be covered, get a good grip and shake a few times until your blanket is covered.I hope that made sense.#tips
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heykoukla
11/19/09

@sailorsong: Anyone who has ever worked in hotel housekeeping (ie. me) could have told you that old trick.
Sorry, that makes me sound like a know-it-all smartypants. I thought I was Martha for a minute ;)
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Ms Meghan
11/19/09

@sailorsong: I figured this out all on my own and felt like such a GENIUS I cannot even tell you.
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TryScience
11/18/09

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I don't want Gisele Bundchen's body. I like mine quite well, thank you Amanda Peet.
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Scoithniamh
11/18/09

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Jesus, Kristen Stewart, I've defended you over and over again. Don't start with this women are from venus men are from mars anti-feminist ugly stereotyping.
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BringerofthePain
11/18/09

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And where would you keep all those bodies, Amanda Peet, hmm?
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BringerofthePain
11/18/09

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Miley will not watch hot wolves and vamps. She will not watch it in a box, she will not watch it with a fox.
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Marla Singer
11/18/09

@BringerofthePain: She will not watch it in a house, she will not watch it with a mouse.
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BringerofthePain
11/18/09

@MechaMech: If the mouse tells her to she will.
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LikeChai
11/18/09

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Yeah Kristen Stewart, cos teenage girls really need to be encouraged to be fickle.
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clevernamehere
11/18/09

@LikeChai: I actually found it a little obnoxious, kids are fickle, it has nothing to do with being female.
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LikeChai
11/19/09

@clevernamehere: That too. Being fickle and picky is something most kids do, regardless of gender.

I'm personally celebrating Edward Cullan as a good role model for teen boys.

Teen boys who want to be sparkly, that is, not creepy. overbearing abusive boyfriends.

#tips
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keldo
11/18/09

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Martha - you are slamming with the left handed compliments lately. And I'm not so sure it's a good thing.
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