My brother went in the suburbs of Boston this morning and apparently at 7am there was a half hour line. My dad saw to it that I got an email about his early start and dedication to change in America.
That makes sense - America considers her American b/c both her parents were American, and Spain would give her citizenship because she was born in Spain.
My vote went smooth-as-silk, others I know, not so much:
From a friend (a former NYC'er, now also in AZ):
"If My 30 Mins Waiting In Line To Vote Are A Precursor of the events to come, today will be a fucking mess. For starters I had to witness the Voter Assistants show how to fill out the ballot no less than 20 times in front of me, oddly every time they gave instructions on how to do so they were very cautious to indicate one line further down on the ballot, and by doing so drawing a very clear correlation between making a line and John McCain. Now I am not a conspiracy theorist but cmon if that isnt subliminal advertising what the heck is it? Secondly I had to correct the Assistant no less than 4 times as to my voter ID number, something that happened once more while in line with another younger voter also that I WITNESSED but never seemed to happen with older voters (ie: old white males). Now this in and of itself is no big deal unless they cant find you in the system and you become disgruntled and just leave, hence making you a non voter. Freedom is not free and obviously so corrupt we cant even have our one day."
I gave him phone numbers and told him to report this to Justice Department and AZ Board of Elections...
Though I'm starting to feel a little bad that I just walked in and voted. Plus, I could have had help in 7 different languages thanks to the roving translators.
What was that voting place in Alabama? A house or a post office?
And for Jezzies who vote in people's homes, what is it like? Can you like, sit on the sofa?
@clevernamehere: Nah, you're in the garage or car hole, if you will. The last photo in SF looks so much like my polling place ('cept I voted early) only ours is on an uphill slope.
@randomnessish: I borrowed my coworkers to get the free coffee at starbucks cos I didn't feel like pulling out my license to prove I was far from home.
I just got back and no lines but it was busy. My polling place (I live in Los Angeles) is kind of crazy. It's in a ˙otel and it provided a pretty decent buffet - cookies, salads,
sandwic˙es, drinks. It felt like a very low-key party.
BTW, my computer will longer type t˙e letter t˙at goes between g and i.
@LucilleMcGillicuddy: I instantly recognise your posts from the missing h's. It makes me smile. You should try that thing Dodai did a while back, and try to find a way to say everything without that particular letter.
I went to my polling place at 8AM, I've been there three times before and breezed in. Today there was a line out the building and down the block. A lady came out and said it would take an hour. Then it started raining... in San Diego. I waited.
Did I mention there was dog poop in the line. At least I hope it was dog poop. Democracy smells like America sometimes.
I really wish my first voting experience hadn't been tarnished by Florida being an asshole and having to vote absentee. I think I could have gotten a major high off the buzz of voting in person.
@TexasCrude: I was very excited when I got to vote because the line was only 2 people long (I went at 2:30). Sweet!
Isn't it amazing that we are able to vote in freedom and peace for those who will represent us-something that many people the world over only dream of.
@strawbrryblnd: It's why I LOVE America (you know, aside from Disneyland, McDonald's, Wal-Mart, such as). Sadness for me, though, I won't be able to do so for another two or three elections or so. I can get express and participate in the next one if I marry a good ol' American, though.
@TexasCrude: Where are you from? Do you have to be a citizen in the US to vote? Cos my dad has permanent residency in NZ (English born but mostly NZ raised), and he can vote. The only things he can't do without Kiwi citizenship is run for public office and get a New Zealand passport.
How does one become a citizen in the States? Is it worth is? Do you have any rights under your current immigrant (?) status?
@Vivien Smith-Smythe-Smith: I'm a Mexican citizen living (shhhhh!!) in the US as an undocumented immigrant so I have very, very, very few rights (can't vote, no driver's license, no social security, US passport, etc.).
To vote in the US, you have to be a born citizen or a naturalized citizen. To acquire citizenship through naturalization, you need to have been a legal resident for five years or married to a citizen for at least 3 years.
Acquiring citizenship takes FOREVER and a day, sometimes depending on the country you're emigrating from and certain circumstances (someone acquiring citizenship by marriage would probably get their citizenship faster than say, someone with legal residency or a visa situation).
@hotcakesandflapjacks: Doesn't really help in this case but there's an addendum to 1, if both parents are American you can be born outside of the US and still be a citizen without doing the whole citizenship test
@whats_in_a_name: Is it really? I had a friend who was born in Spain to American parents (her dad was in the service) and told me once that she had the option between American or Spanish citizenship.
@TexasCrude: Does that make you illegal, or just disenfranchised? That's so shitty; I've seen footage of the citizenship ceremonies, too and they look so cultish! Is it quite hard to get citizenship if you're Central American than say if you were from Western Europe? One of my aunts is Guatemalan, and I think she had US citizenship, but as she is now a Kiwi, she must have had to give something up.
I feel weird when people talk about citizenship; your place of birth is so incidental. I'm mega proud to be Kiwi, but I have both NZ and English (ancestral) passports, and I hate being made to feel as though Kiwi-ness is some sort of birth right (plus my dad always hits the ceiling when people talk anti-immigration in front of him; that man has a sense of scathe I can only but admire!).
@TexasCrude: Your friend is right, depending on the country it can either be a situation where you have to choose one or the other, or in some cases, mainly with countries the the US is very closely allied with, it may result in dual citizenship.
@Vivien Smith-Smythe-Smith: Technically, yes, I'm illegal but thankfully that's being all smoothed out with a humanitarian visa which gives me a work permit, eventually residency and then citizenship (THANK YOU, JESUS!). I can only do so very little in the US but thankfully, my home state in the US saved me some face and at least let me go to school and to university.
I do think the country of origin depends on how long citizenship is attained. It's a lot of teamwork on both countries' part and if it's taking a while to get back some random paperwork like your 2nd grade report card from your native country, it obvs takes a whole lot longer than another country that doesn't require random paperwork.
I have such intense hatred for anti-immigration and amnesty people. For the most part, they're really ignorant people who are unaware of that saying things like, "They're taking our jobs and spending our tax money!" makes them sound horribly, horribly uneducated about the whole issue. And they treat us like convenient scapegoats for all their calamities. It's a mess.
@hotcakesandflapjacks: In the process of applying for my English passport last year, I realised how redonk the rules are; my father is a UK citizen with permanent resident status in NZ, and my mother was a NZ citizen with some kind of residency permit under Ancestral laws (her father is English). Because my parents were not married when I was born but married at a later date, despite my father being on my birth certificate, he had to write a letter accompanying my application (including my father's British passport, my birth certificate, his birth certificate, and my parents' marriage certificate) stating that he was in fact a naturalised resident (despite his parents having become NZ citizens since they came here in the sixties, and my dad having attended both school and university here). Not only that, but I had to apply through my father rather than my mother (despite her status as a British subject and my maternal grandfather being English), and if I was a male, my wife would qualify for a visa and passport through me, yet as a woman I cannot pass those same rights to my (hypothetical) husband. It's fucking ridiculous, and incredibly sexist and tedious. Apparently it's the same for all countries.
@TexasCrude: Yup. In my country the most immigrants come from the UK and South Africa (and are predominantly white), yet people have the gall to complain about the 'Asian Invasion' and what have you.
Maybe I'm just hypersensitive on account of my extended family resembling the United Nations of immigrants, but there's nothing worse than when people spew such ignorant hatred. And it's usually only a matter of time before I snap and pull out the "Oh sorry, did my white face and familiar accent confuse you? Let me tell you something about immigrants, sonny!"
How long have you lived in the US for? Are your parents citizens? And are you in danger of ever losing your humanitarian status?
That shit is so whack. It makes me think; how sympathetic are these people towards the true indigenous Americans? Cos we studied the Native Americans and How They Were Systematically Fucked Over in high school as a preface to studying our own Treaty of Waitangi, and I cannot believe how shit has gone down for them! (Reason #70873 why I hate talking about 'race': the simplification of issues and identity)
2. Immigrate to America, wait 5 years for residency then apply for citizenship, pay a hefty fee, take the test, pass and yay! You can haz vote now!
3. Have your parents become citizens while you are a minor and get naturalized by default! (thats what i did)
4. Marry an American.
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that marrying an American citizen would make you a permanent resident and not a citizen. So you still wouldn't be able to vote.
@Brigonha: @liz.lemonade: My husband is Canadian and we ended up having to apply for his green card both through the marriage track *and* the work track (it's hard to predict how long these will take to go through). Marriage track worked first, but oh it's been a big pile o'hassle. We have to file one more time in the Spring, prove we're still married and all, but then he'll be a permanent res. What's mildly hillarious is that we might be moving to Canada in the Fall for work. heh. Then it's my turn.
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From a friend (a former NYC'er, now also in AZ):
"If My 30 Mins Waiting In Line To Vote Are A Precursor of the events to come, today will be a fucking mess. For starters I had to witness the Voter Assistants show how to fill out the ballot no less than 20 times in front of me, oddly every time they gave instructions on how to do so they were very cautious to indicate one line further down on the ballot, and by doing so drawing a very clear correlation between making a line and John McCain. Now I am not a conspiracy theorist but cmon if that isnt subliminal advertising what the heck is it? Secondly I had to correct the Assistant no less than 4 times as to my voter ID number, something that happened once more while in line with another younger voter also that I WITNESSED but never seemed to happen with older voters (ie: old white males). Now this in and of itself is no big deal unless they cant find you in the system and you become disgruntled and just leave, hence making you a non voter. Freedom is not free and obviously so corrupt we cant even have our one day."
I gave him phone numbers and told him to report this to Justice Department and AZ Board of Elections...
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yes, I voted for the R for executive council, because the local paper told me to, and I trust them.
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(I recommend ignoring all of the comments on every article...ugh.)
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Though I'm starting to feel a little bad that I just walked in and voted. Plus, I could have had help in 7 different languages thanks to the roving translators.
What was that voting place in Alabama? A house or a post office?
And for Jezzies who vote in people's homes, what is it like? Can you like, sit on the sofa?
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i feel so left out.
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sandwic˙es, drinks. It felt like a very low-key party.
BTW, my computer will longer type t˙e letter t˙at goes between g and i.
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Did I mention there was dog poop in the line. At least I hope it was dog poop. Democracy smells like America sometimes.
And by America I mean a steaming wet log of poo.
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I put in a word with Jesusito and his dad instead.
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Isn't it amazing that we are able to vote in freedom and peace for those who will represent us-something that many people the world over only dream of.
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How does one become a citizen in the States? Is it worth is? Do you have any rights under your current immigrant (?) status?
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1. be born in America
2. Immigrate to America, wait 5 years for residency then apply for citizenship, pay a hefty fee, take the test, pass and yay! You can haz vote now!
3. Have your parents become citizens while you are a minor and get naturalized by default! (thats what i did)
4. Marry an American.
U.S Citizen perks: Passport, the right to vote, the knowledge that you can not get deported for not updating your green card, etc.
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To vote in the US, you have to be a born citizen or a naturalized citizen. To acquire citizenship through naturalization, you need to have been a legal resident for five years or married to a citizen for at least 3 years.
Acquiring citizenship takes FOREVER and a day, sometimes depending on the country you're emigrating from and certain circumstances (someone acquiring citizenship by marriage would probably get their citizenship faster than say, someone with legal residency or a visa situation).
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Also, I will be considering number 4 as an ultimate last resort.
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I feel weird when people talk about citizenship; your place of birth is so incidental. I'm mega proud to be Kiwi, but I have both NZ and English (ancestral) passports, and I hate being made to feel as though Kiwi-ness is some sort of birth right (plus my dad always hits the ceiling when people talk anti-immigration in front of him; that man has a sense of scathe I can only but admire!).
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I do think the country of origin depends on how long citizenship is attained. It's a lot of teamwork on both countries' part and if it's taking a while to get back some random paperwork like your 2nd grade report card from your native country, it obvs takes a whole lot longer than another country that doesn't require random paperwork.
I have such intense hatred for anti-immigration and amnesty people. For the most part, they're really ignorant people who are unaware of that saying things like, "They're taking our jobs and spending our tax money!" makes them sound horribly, horribly uneducated about the whole issue. And they treat us like convenient scapegoats for all their calamities. It's a mess.
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Maybe I'm just hypersensitive on account of my extended family resembling the United Nations of immigrants, but there's nothing worse than when people spew such ignorant hatred. And it's usually only a matter of time before I snap and pull out the "Oh sorry, did my white face and familiar accent confuse you? Let me tell you something about immigrants, sonny!"
How long have you lived in the US for? Are your parents citizens? And are you in danger of ever losing your humanitarian status?
That shit is so whack. It makes me think; how sympathetic are these people towards the true indigenous Americans? Cos we studied the Native Americans and How They Were Systematically Fucked Over in high school as a preface to studying our own Treaty of Waitangi, and I cannot believe how shit has gone down for them! (Reason #70873 why I hate talking about 'race': the simplification of issues and identity)
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1. be born in America
2. Immigrate to America, wait 5 years for residency then apply for citizenship, pay a hefty fee, take the test, pass and yay! You can haz vote now!
3. Have your parents become citizens while you are a minor and get naturalized by default! (thats what i did)
4. Marry an American.
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that marrying an American citizen would make you a permanent resident and not a citizen. So you still wouldn't be able to vote.
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