If there's one thing I've learned from knowing three people who went on to kill themselves, it's that sometimes you just have no idea at all what's about to happen. Daul, from the little I knew of her via her blog, was a gifted young woman who'd have been awesome to know even if she wasn't a model.
In some ways, this hits me harder than Ruslana Korshunova's death last year precisely because Daul was a (fellow) blogger- in a way, it feels like we've lost one of our own.
And out of that sentiment, I do wish she'd be allowed some privacy in death- like maybe not having false facts and speculation about her relationship all over the media now. I don't know who it's supposed to help.
So sad to hear of Charis Wilson's passing. Ovation TV is airing "The Eloquent Nude" this week, which features Charis at 90, wonderfully frank and candid about her relationship with Edward. I highly recommend it. [ovationtv.com]
I'm not normally the sort of person who complains about this kind of thing, but what is the benefit of continuing to report on Daul Kim?
Her life deserves to be celebrated by her family and friends, but we can't help her, and there's nothing to be learned here that we didn't already know. Suicide is devastating, beautiful, intelligent people can still have problems, and we all fervently hope that those who need help will get it.
What else is there to say? Why must we always pick over the bones of tragedy like it will ward off the next one?
@Kajj: I think that discussing suicide helps de-stigmatize it. Mental illness is serious and widespread, and most people who are depressed do not get the help they need. Through discussing it this way, we can learn to better recognize the signs in our friends and loved ones. You may be well-informed on the issue of suicide, but many are not, and this sort of real-life-not-hypothetical situation helps shed light on the issue.
If the discussion inspires one person to correctly interpret the warning signs in others and prevent them from committing suicide/cutting/whatever, isn't it worth it?
@madeofawesome: I'm in favor of discussing suicide - I'm just not in favor of the prolonged examination of one unhappy person's private life after their death.
My best friend cut himself in high school. Looking at the Catherine McNeil article and the attached pictures is very painful for me, and while I'm no expert, those cuts do not look like the result of a skateboarding accident.
One thing I've noticed, that I'm not sure I'm comfortable with, is how being aspie is being approached by popular culture. Lord knows I'm happy it doesn't carry the same stigma of say, a personality disorder, but it's being trotted out as adorable quirks. Everyone empathizes with the alien nerd, be it the aspie on modeling show or the male manic pixie dream girl in the movie coming out, Adam, but there's a frightening degree of infantalization going on. Having Aspergers syndrome means wincing as people awkwardly explain the disorder to me as a person lacking in empathy but not a -bad- person, or seeing obviously aspie character pop up in fiction and seeing the complete lack of guile and malice these characters are granted makes me think that there's this fantasy of a person without sin or understanding of human deception, who can be a little boring at times, but has their heart in the right place and an eccentric sense of beauty that is nonetheless, deeper than the average person. I have Aspergers syndrome. I'm manipulative, warm, empathetic, and capable of lying and deception, and though I do the obsessive hobbies, I'm a great listener. Various clinically diagnosed family members are nothing like the woobies and robots that are being thrown out as role models for my disorder, either. It's better than being seen as cursed instead of child like, but I wish that I wasn't supposed to be 'special'.
@fouralarmfirepants: When women are coming out of the woodwork to discuss a little known, stigmatized condition that affects their lives, families, and the lives of those they love? That's not oversharing, that's sharing.
It has been so helpful to read all of you Jezzie's accounts of experiences with Aspergers. My father has self-diagnosed himself with Asbergers and his sibling (not knowing of my father's self-diagnoses), independently confided in me that she suspected he had Aspergers. I had never heard of the condition, and am only just now learning about it.
Just like many of you described, my father exhibits genius-level intelligence in some areas, and is completely clueless in others. He can rattle off facts and recite narratives in certain subject areas, and will remember entire passages from a book he read, but will not remember things like my major in college or what I do for a living.
He takes forever to relate a simple story. He will deliver hour-long monologues on his current subject of interest, but never asks questions about my life, or ask how my husband is doing. Anything a person tries to add to his monologue -- an opinion or fact -- he ignores. He is interested in delivering his speech about obscure subjects, but has no interest in other people's thoughts on his topic. And he can't even seem to recognize when his audience loses interst. I don't even know if it matters to him whether his audience knows, understands or cares what he's talking about.
He always seemed very self-centered, but not malicious and now I think I understand why. He does seem incapable of empathy. When I plan to spend time with him, he always makes plans that include activities in which I would have NO interest (like driving an hour away just to visit an electronics consignment store?). Anything I suggest, he ignores. It wasn't his idea, so there is no reason for him to do it.
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In some ways, this hits me harder than Ruslana Korshunova's death last year precisely because Daul was a (fellow) blogger- in a way, it feels like we've lost one of our own.
And out of that sentiment, I do wish she'd be allowed some privacy in death- like maybe not having false facts and speculation about her relationship all over the media now. I don't know who it's supposed to help.
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i can only rarely find my size anywhere but online.
coincidence? i think not.
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Her life deserves to be celebrated by her family and friends, but we can't help her, and there's nothing to be learned here that we didn't already know. Suicide is devastating, beautiful, intelligent people can still have problems, and we all fervently hope that those who need help will get it.
What else is there to say? Why must we always pick over the bones of tragedy like it will ward off the next one?
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If the discussion inspires one person to correctly interpret the warning signs in others and prevent them from committing suicide/cutting/whatever, isn't it worth it?
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Just like many of you described, my father exhibits genius-level intelligence in some areas, and is completely clueless in others. He can rattle off facts and recite narratives in certain subject areas, and will remember entire passages from a book he read, but will not remember things like my major in college or what I do for a living.
He takes forever to relate a simple story. He will deliver hour-long monologues on his current subject of interest, but never asks questions about my life, or ask how my husband is doing. Anything a person tries to add to his monologue -- an opinion or fact -- he ignores. He is interested in delivering his speech about obscure subjects, but has no interest in other people's thoughts on his topic. And he can't even seem to recognize when his audience loses interst. I don't even know if it matters to him whether his audience knows, understands or cares what he's talking about.
He always seemed very self-centered, but not malicious and now I think I understand why. He does seem incapable of empathy. When I plan to spend time with him, he always makes plans that include activities in which I would have NO interest (like driving an hour away just to visit an electronics consignment store?). Anything I suggest, he ignores. It wasn't his idea, so there is no reason for him to do it.
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